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I'm talking with Siemens CEO Roland Bush about what exactly Siemens is.

So your vision is like a fully automated factory.

You're talking about the sort of higher order jobs, like information jobs, technology jobs, engineering jobs.

I would call those software jobs, right?

Like in some broad categorization, there's some amount of white collar work that has a laptop involved.

That's the next thing you could automate with AI.

And you've made some gestures at that, right?

We can automate even more of the things I mentioned earlier.

It seems like a lot of the frame for how you're thinking is Siemens has traditionally automated atoms.

Now you can automate bits.

Yes.

From, okay, you've decided how many units to produce, we'll produce them, to we're going to actually automate the deciding of how many units to produce.