Nilay Patel

Again, Bridget was the former Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court.

She was in charge of all the judges in that state.

And you'll hear her say several times that people are pretty unreliable themselves.

One note before we start, if you want a broader look at how AI and the legal system are interacting, Verge reporter Lauren Finer actually published a fantastic feature on all this last month, and I highly suggest you go read it if you're interested in learning even more.

We'll put a link in the description and in the show notes.

Okay, Bridget McCormack, the president and CEO of the American Arbitration Association and the AI arbitrator.

Here we go.

Bridget McCormack, you're the president and CEO of the American Arbitration Association.

You're also the former chief justice of the Michigan Supreme Court.

Welcome to Decoder.

You and I were on a panel a while ago.

You were talking about rolling out AI in arbitration.

You were also talking about your history overseeing judges in Michigan, which was very funny.

I'm very excited to talk about all of that with you.

I just want to start at the very beginning.

I suspect you and I are going to end up talking a lot about commercial disputes, business disputes.

There's a lot there.

To discuss in the context of AI and arbitration, most people's experience of arbitration is like they just sign a contract.

You were the chief justice in Michigan.

You oversaw the literal legal system in that state.