Nilay Patel

It's hard to know how much.

Right next to that is Windows Gaming.

And maybe now the rampocalypse means there won't be gaming PCs anymore.

And the idea that NVIDIA is going to sell every GPU in the world to Sam Altman means there won't be gaming PCs anymore.

But that was more than a flicker during all of this.

People buying gaming PCs, playing Windows games, eventually buying Steam Decks.

Just our own audience, every time we covered a Steam Deck or something that looked like a Steam Deck, we could tell people really liked these things.

Why did they ignore that opportunity?

Because it seems like it was right there for them the entire time.

We have to take another quick break.

We're back with Verge Senior Reporter Tom Warren.

Before the break, Tom is explaining the recent history of Xbox's struggles.

But now I want to look ahead to current Microsoft Gaming CEO Asha Sharma, her previous role in AI, and how this leadership change could affect the future of the Xbox.

The new head of Xbox is Asha Chalmers, the CEO of Microsoft Gaming.

She does not appear to have any gaming background.

I mean, she's out there posting on social media, like, what game should I play?

She's making overtures to this audience.

But before this, she led core AI at Microsoft.

She was a VP of product at Meta.

She was a CEO of Instacart.