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Nilay Patel

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Big tech is set to spend almost a trillion dollars in CapEx this year, with nowhere near the revenue levels that would make a return on that anytime soon.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

This goes beyond, say, the last explosion of companies going public.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Facebook went public in the early 2010s.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Lots of millionaires were made.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Generationally important companies went public.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But this is like a different level.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

It's a different category of numbers even in terms of investment in and expected return out in these IPOs.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

What are the timelines for OpenAI and Anthropic to go public?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Because they're raising a lot of money.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

They're talking about a lot of money.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But at some point, they're going to have to go public and return all that money, right?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Is that push for commercialization to make money and be an actual business instead of a research lab, is that what's pushing people to quit?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

You've got to work for a bunch of meta executives who work at OpenAI now to push ads on people?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

You know, when companies go public, they have to start delivering quarterly earnings.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Their CEOs have to do investor calls.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Things get very regular and standardized and quite honestly, much more boring.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

That is not a great environment to suddenly start writing huge checks to random researchers because you want to lure them from Meta to make AGI.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

Do you think the process of going public or becoming more responsible companies or even just having to make money will bring some of the froth in this market down?

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

But going public could make these companies themselves worth close to a trillion dollars each, even as investors pour more money back into them on the back of AI hype.

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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent

One question looming over all of this is where the tech talent pipeline goes.