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Nilay Patel

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And the guardrails around them are just as weak as whatever makes us feel uncomfortable about Ring.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I'm not sure how to feel about all that video, especially in a world where AI makes it easy to fake, and having some source of truth seems more important than ever.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Ask Jamie about that too, whether Ring will control all the video and sign it with some metadata so people can ensure it's real.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

presuming we have to have an authenticated server, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

There's a crime in my neighborhood and I'm opted in and we're going to say the cops can only get the video from the ring server because that's where we know it's true.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I might not be as in control of my video anymore.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

You get the feeling we'll be coming back to that idea quite a lot in the years to come.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

But today Ring has canceled its deal with Flock, and Flock itself is putting out blog posts flatly saying it does not have a contract with ICE, and noting that Ring's other partner Axon does have a contract with ICE.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

In the meantime, Dog Search Party is still active and on by default, although you can just go into settings in the Ring app and flip it off.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And the enormous amount of video that we are all generating all the time

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

is still being uploaded to servers run by big companies that have their own dealings with governments and law enforcement agencies far outside of our control.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

There's a lot of potential solutions to all of these problems.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

A lot of ways to design regulations that might balance out privacy and civil liberties with the real needs of police.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

But right now, in 2026 America, I'm not sure we're really going to be able to do that.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

So in the meantime, we're going to keep pushing the leaders of these companies on what they really mean.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

And keep running the answers so you can listen and decide.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

I also think it's about time we all started thinking about how the technology we use to make our own lives better affects other people.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Because that bigger conversation we need to have, yeah, that's what it's really about.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

We'll see you next time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surveillance state

Thank you for listening to Decoder.