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Nilay Patel

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

So he's saying, look, we'll start to sign all the images and everything, but actually you need to trust individual creators.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

And if you trust the creator, then that will solve the problem.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

And it seems like...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

you're really skipping over the part where creators are often fooled by AI generated content, like all the time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

And I don't mean that to say like creators as a class of people, I mean literally just everyone is fooled by AI content all the time.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

And so if you're trusting people to understand it and then share what they think is real, and then you're trusting the consumers to trust the people, that also seems like a whirlwind of chaos.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

On top of that, and you've written about this as well, there's the notion that these labels make you mad at people, right?

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

So that if you label a piece of content as AI generated, the creator gets furious because it makes their work seem less important or less valuable.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

The audiences yell at the creators.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

And so there's been a real push to get rid of these labels entirely.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

because they seem to make everyone mad.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

How does that dynamic work here?

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

Does any of this have a way through?

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

Let's pause here for a second, because I want to lay out some important context before we go any farther.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

If you're a Verge reader or even listening to the Verge cast, you know that we've been asking a very simple question for over five years now.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

What is a photo?

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

It sounds simple, but it's actually quite complicated.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Reality is losing the deepfake war

Because after all, when you push the shutter button on a modern smartphone, you are not actually capturing a single moment in time, which is what most people think of a photo as.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

Modern phones actually take a lot of frames, both before and after the second you push the shutter button, and then merge them into a single final photo.

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Reality is losing the deepfake war

That's to do things like even out the shadows and highlights of a photo, to capture more texture, to accomplish things like night mode.