Nilay Patel

You had just changed the license terms for Magic the Gathering.

You were chasing Creative Commons and you're trying to protect against NFTs.

And that feels like it all essentially came to nothing.

Would you say it came to nothing?

I get that feeling.

And I also just feel like we now know crypto is mostly for crimes like that has become.

It's like amazing how even like in the crypto industry is like, yeah, we're we're mostly for crimes like it's digital gold and crimes.

And that's what we do here.

There you go.

So that was one aspect of our previous conversation.

I think we can set that aside.

I think we've dispatched with that.

The other thing that was really interesting about that conversation is you were just one year into the job, just about one year, and you were in the middle of reorganization of the company.

And you were about to sell E1, which you have now done.

It was actually one of my favorite episodes of the time because you talked a lot about reorganizing, restructuring a 100-year-old company.

Since then, you've completed that restructure.

I want to talk to you about how that's going and if there's any more changes to come.

You've also moved the company from Rhode Island to Boston.

I'm curious about that decision.

Let's just start at a very high level.