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The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. We'll see you next time.

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilay Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer. You probably know Vimeo from its beginnings as an artier, more creative competitor to YouTube.

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilay Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer. You probably know Vimeo from its beginnings as an artier, more creative competitor to YouTube.

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilay Patel, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer. You probably know Vimeo from its beginnings as an artier, more creative competitor to YouTube.

But over the last few years, and especially after it went public in 2021, Vimeo has really turned itself into an enterprise software company, selling video hosting services to companies of all sizes. I gotta tell you, I was pretty excited to talk to Philip, because this episode is a particularly fun full-circle decoder moment.

But over the last few years, and especially after it went public in 2021, Vimeo has really turned itself into an enterprise software company, selling video hosting services to companies of all sizes. I gotta tell you, I was pretty excited to talk to Philip, because this episode is a particularly fun full-circle decoder moment.

But over the last few years, and especially after it went public in 2021, Vimeo has really turned itself into an enterprise software company, selling video hosting services to companies of all sizes. I gotta tell you, I was pretty excited to talk to Philip, because this episode is a particularly fun full-circle decoder moment.

I interviewed Philip's predecessor, Anjali Sood, both when she was CEO of Vimeo, and again more recently in her new gig as CEO of Tubi. So I had a sense of how Anjali ran Vimeo, what strategies she took to Tubi, and then it was fascinating to close the loop and see how Philip wanted to change Vimeo after taking over himself.

I interviewed Philip's predecessor, Anjali Sood, both when she was CEO of Vimeo, and again more recently in her new gig as CEO of Tubi. So I had a sense of how Anjali ran Vimeo, what strategies she took to Tubi, and then it was fascinating to close the loop and see how Philip wanted to change Vimeo after taking over himself.

I interviewed Philip's predecessor, Anjali Sood, both when she was CEO of Vimeo, and again more recently in her new gig as CEO of Tubi. So I had a sense of how Anjali ran Vimeo, what strategies she took to Tubi, and then it was fascinating to close the loop and see how Philip wanted to change Vimeo after taking over himself.

Especially because the entire ecosystem of online video is itself changing incredibly rapidly. You'll hear Philip be very complimentary of what Anjali accomplished at Vimeo, but now he's pushing to make Vimeo grow into a very different kind of YouTube competitor, one that can support everything from independent creators to huge corporations.

Especially because the entire ecosystem of online video is itself changing incredibly rapidly. You'll hear Philip be very complimentary of what Anjali accomplished at Vimeo, but now he's pushing to make Vimeo grow into a very different kind of YouTube competitor, one that can support everything from independent creators to huge corporations.

Especially because the entire ecosystem of online video is itself changing incredibly rapidly. You'll hear Philip be very complimentary of what Anjali accomplished at Vimeo, but now he's pushing to make Vimeo grow into a very different kind of YouTube competitor, one that can support everything from independent creators to huge corporations.

It's a shift from the strategy that Anjali used to reset the company and take it public, and there's a lot of interesting nuance to it. It turns out everyone wants to put videos on the internet, but only some of those people want them to be ingested by YouTube's advertising and recommendation systems. What's interesting about this is that Philip has experience at Google.