Nilay Patel

And then YouTube grew into the social media juggernaut it is now. TikTok exists, all that's there. And The initial reaction was it's very hard to compete with that. We'll be for enterprises, right? Business customers have video needs. We'll service them.

You're saying there's some kind of middle ground in the middle of the spectrum between big algorithmic consumer video platforms and enterprise where just a lot of regular people want private video sharing?

You're saying there's some kind of middle ground in the middle of the spectrum between big algorithmic consumer video platforms and enterprise where just a lot of regular people want private video sharing?

You're saying there's some kind of middle ground in the middle of the spectrum between big algorithmic consumer video platforms and enterprise where just a lot of regular people want private video sharing?

I think the thing that I'm keying on there is there's the consumer-facing video platforms, and then there's you have a bunch of enterprise video needs. And you're kind of in some way describing a bunch of core enterprise customers, right? Large school districts, companies big enough to have a chief economist. I think those are classic enterprise customers.

I think the thing that I'm keying on there is there's the consumer-facing video platforms, and then there's you have a bunch of enterprise video needs. And you're kind of in some way describing a bunch of core enterprise customers, right? Large school districts, companies big enough to have a chief economist. I think those are classic enterprise customers.

I think the thing that I'm keying on there is there's the consumer-facing video platforms, and then there's you have a bunch of enterprise video needs. And you're kind of in some way describing a bunch of core enterprise customers, right? Large school districts, companies big enough to have a chief economist. I think those are classic enterprise customers.

And then somewhere in the middle, those companies actually want to go reach consumers without participating in algorithmic media. And that consumer surface, Vimeo has kind of gotten away from. Are you saying you're pushing back towards it?

And then somewhere in the middle, those companies actually want to go reach consumers without participating in algorithmic media. And that consumer surface, Vimeo has kind of gotten away from. Are you saying you're pushing back towards it?

And then somewhere in the middle, those companies actually want to go reach consumers without participating in algorithmic media. And that consumer surface, Vimeo has kind of gotten away from. Are you saying you're pushing back towards it?

So is that you building a consumer interface? You're saying it's only a small percentage that's coming to Vimeo.com. Where are they finding audience? Is it all on their own websites? Is it in other people's platforms? Where is that audience actually going?

So is that you building a consumer interface? You're saying it's only a small percentage that's coming to Vimeo.com. Where are they finding audience? Is it all on their own websites? Is it in other people's platforms? Where is that audience actually going?

So is that you building a consumer interface? You're saying it's only a small percentage that's coming to Vimeo.com. Where are they finding audience? Is it all on their own websites? Is it in other people's platforms? Where is that audience actually going?

I'm going to ask you a question, and you're just going to have to bear with me on sort of the mathematical nature of this question. Hopefully it makes sense. I have a lot of CEOs of web hosting companies on the show because I'm very curious about the web in the age of platforms. How will it grow? Where will the audience come from?

I'm going to ask you a question, and you're just going to have to bear with me on sort of the mathematical nature of this question. Hopefully it makes sense. I have a lot of CEOs of web hosting companies on the show because I'm very curious about the web in the age of platforms. How will it grow? Where will the audience come from?

I'm going to ask you a question, and you're just going to have to bear with me on sort of the mathematical nature of this question. Hopefully it makes sense. I have a lot of CEOs of web hosting companies on the show because I'm very curious about the web in the age of platforms. How will it grow? Where will the audience come from?

The last great referrer of web traffic, as everyone knows, is Google Search. Google Search is undergoing some sort of gigantic AI-powered identity crisis. Who knows what's going on over there? But it's changing. And so I have the CEO of Squarespace or the CEO of Wix or whatever other hosting platform I'm on. I say, why does anyone build a website?

The last great referrer of web traffic, as everyone knows, is Google Search. Google Search is undergoing some sort of gigantic AI-powered identity crisis. Who knows what's going on over there? But it's changing. And so I have the CEO of Squarespace or the CEO of Wix or whatever other hosting platform I'm on. I say, why does anyone build a website?

The last great referrer of web traffic, as everyone knows, is Google Search. Google Search is undergoing some sort of gigantic AI-powered identity crisis. Who knows what's going on over there? But it's changing. And so I have the CEO of Squarespace or the CEO of Wix or whatever other hosting platform I'm on. I say, why does anyone build a website?

Why would you do that instead of starting a TikTok channel now if you're a small business or an individual creator? And they all kind of say, well, it's to do e-commerce. Right. And embedded in that is some sense that, OK, you've built a following on some platform. Now you want to sell something to your audience and you're going to you got to sell the spoon somewhere.