Nina Funnell

And that's, that can be, you know, up to $10,000.

Yeah, so we did Grace's work.

I went to Grace and I said, how would you feel about us getting you a court order?

We'll cover the cost.

So we did the work and Gina did it.

And it cost about, I think it was about $9,200 to do it.

Now, if the individual survivor was expected to wear the cost of that, that's outrageous.

But more than that, I started to go...

Well, this is really problematic because it means that the media get to pick and choose which survivors end up telling their story based on where they're, you know, and it also means that commercial media, media with big deep pockets are the ones that are going to be able to tell these stories.

What happens if a survivor doesn't want to tell their story to mainstream media and they just want to tell it through media?

own blog or through an autobiography, does that mean that they then wear the cost?

And even more than that, I was realizing this actually re-inscribes the victim survivor back into the criminal justice system, which was often very traumatic to begin with.

And it puts them in this position where they have to ask a judge for permission to say their own name.

Like it's so paternalistic.

there.

100%.

Also, the offender doesn't need a court order to tell what they want to say.

Nicholas Bester, the offender, had actually gone and done a 17-minute interview with a woman called Bettina Arndt, where they had actually mocked Grace and made light of the offending.

I ended up speaking to my editors at the time and saying, I think this is more than a story.

I actually think we should campaign on this.