Nir Bashan

But there's also a lot of data showing that there's very focused programs that are working incredibly well.

Some of them are faith based.

Some of them are like work based, where prisoners learn a certain

tool, a technique, an approach, a vocation, and they go out there and do really well.

And those are underfunded, and the ones that don't work are overfunded, right?

It's about getting creative with the data and looking at it and going, okay, cool.

This is an indication of something, but it's not the full story.

And that's so important to do connecting the dots.

Like most people would go, oh, I've got the worst report in.

Woe is me.

This is the worst thing that's ever happened.

And they give up or they fade into themselves and work out something for another few months while they're sending resumes.

Right.

But you looked at that and said, Hey, wait a second.

What can this data do to improve?

What can I do to take this worst scenario and look at ways to improve?

And you found it.

You found improving and hey, it's really about connecting the narrative.

The work that you're doing here in this department is really important to that

mom and dad in Kansas city who are going and shopping to do their baby's room with paint and all this equipment because these three things that connects and all of a sudden you you've energized somebody a hundred percent the data is there not to just depress you it's there so that you can work on it it's there so that you can come up with solutions but the data alone without creativity without innovation won't take you to where you want to go