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Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

And they take the pill jar that he brought to show them what medicine he took, and they look on the jar of antidepressants, and it doesn't say what brand of antidepressants.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

It has a phone number.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

They call the phone number.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

They get the person on the line.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

The person on the line tells them that Mr. A was enrolled in a clinical trial of antidepressants.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

And in fact, he hadn't taken the antidepressants at all because he was in the placebo group.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

And yet the idea that he had overdosed on antidepressants had caused these physical symptoms of dangerously low blood pressure, falling heart rate.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

He was falling in and out of consciousness because he believed that something was happening in his body prompted from these antidepressants, which he hadn't taken.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

He had taken placebo pills, which were completely inert.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

They tell him this, that he'd taken just placebos.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

In 15 minutes, Daniel,

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

He's off the gurney.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

His heart rate is stabilized.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

His blood pressure is fine.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

He walks out the door completely healthy, maybe a little embarrassed.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

So if the idea is,

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

that our biology is doing something, whether or not it is, is so powerful that it can make a man sick this way.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

Are you telling me that putting in these notions of our labels, that we're this or that, also doesn't have similar effects?

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

Of course it does.

Founder's Story
The Real Reason You Can’t Focus and What to Do About It | Ep. 331 with Nir Eyal NYT Best Selling Author

We know it does.