Nish Kumar

And we'll also be asking why the government has put the Hillsborough Law on hold with Liam.

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Yeah, Nigel Farage had been talking it up, but we understand, or certainly the public pronouncements they're making about it currently are...

that it's been delayed until further notice while the party focuses on the threats from Trump to impose tariffs over Greenland.

I mean, again, in terms of the stories we're seeing from across the country, I'm pretty sure a lot of the people living in reform-led councils would rather they were focused on things like bin collection and not increasing council taxes rather than what Trump is doing about Greenland.

But anyway, let's not get too far in the weeds with that.

Liam, what do you make of these, this sort of spate of defections?

Obviously the most high profile so far being Robert Jenrick.

I mean, I think two things there.

I was in a car that was driving past Dulwich College three days ago.

And I have to say, which is famously when Nigel Farage went to secondary school, it didn't seem like it wasn't elite.

Yeah.