Nish Kumar

pick the pockets of victims.

A 2012 independent panel found that 164 police statements had been altered.

This is direct interference by the state.

It's an institutional cover-up.

And I think, Liam, I think you're so correct to...

bracket this with the post office scandal and the infected blood scandal and discuss it as part of a pattern of institutional cover-ups within the British state.

Ian Byrne, who's the MP for Liverpool West and has been a longtime campaigner for the law said, it's imperative that any legislation leaving the commons is truly worthy of being called the Hillsborough law.

before it proceeds to the Lords.

Would you say that that is a sentiment being shared by the families at the moment, that it's not so much an anger that this thing is being delayed as it is a real burning desire from everybody who's been campaigning for it for so long to get it right?

You're an experienced journalist.

You've written about a huge number of stories over the years.

And, you know, especially on the political side of things, there's so much weekly churn.

But with this, you've been talking directly to families affected by tragedy, families who, like you say, members of whose families went to a football match and never came home.

What is it like to follow a story like this so intimately for so many years and be hearing directly from the people most affected by it?

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