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Nish Kumar

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3865 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

So it's really important to keep that in mind.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

Empathy is not a finite resource.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

And so...

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

You should be able to have empathy for a man with Tourette's who has a completely involuntary tick that he cannot control that has led him to shout this word.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

You should also be able to have empathy for two black men who were stood on a stage and had a racial slur that has its own appalling history and connection and connotations to slavery.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

I can't.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

speak directly to that experience i'm not black also i've not been in a situation as loaded as high profile as the one that the two of them were in when this happened but i can speak to the feeling of racism being directed at you in the entertainment industry and having to kind of hold yourself with a huge amount of dignity and it can be a very very lonely place

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

when there is any kind of racism-based incident in the entertainment industry.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

There is this sort of assumption that the entertainment industry is, in of itself, full of progressive-minded people who are on the left of every political issue.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

And would always step into this kind of situation.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

That's simply not true, right?

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

The entertainment industry, like a lot of life, if you're in a majority white country, is very uncomfortable when it comes to conversations around race.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

And I know from personal experience, the loneliness of feeling...

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

Like you have to absorb the pain of being on the receiving end of a racial slur or any kind of racial hostility.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

Absorb that and process it.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

And then in the moment, conduct yourself with total dignity.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

That is a very, very important.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

familiar experience for a lot of us that work in the media or in the entertainment industries.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

It should be possible for us to have empathy for Delroy Lindo, Michael B. Jordan and John Davidson in this situation.

Pod Save the UK
143: Are we stuck in never-ending political scandal? w/Ash Sarkar

And we should not be entering into a conversation about this being a question of oppositional rights.