Nish Kumar

Can I add one more thing to this as well?

And I hate to sound like a parody of myself, but we are also...

Living through a period where the dominant economic system that has governed our countries is collapsing.

It is collapsing.

And we're in a situation where people can't access therapists because our health service has been chronically underfunded for the last 15 years.

People are unable to operate in the way that they were able to on a day-to-day basis 25 years ago because...

the economy is fundamentally malfunctioning for the majority of people that live in this country.

So of course, it's easier to ask chat GPT what's wrong with you than to get a GP appointment.

Yeah, exactly.

So we're in the worst possible situation where we are the most vulnerable we've ever been.

Yes.

to exploitation.

I agree.

So then let me ask you this.

Do you believe currently that there is enough expertise in our government to actually properly regulate this?

Because I brought this up on the show before, but in 2020, I watched a lot of the congressional hearings when...

Mark Zuckerberg and other tech leaders were dragged in front of Congress.

And I watched one of the interrogators ask Mark Zuckerberg something about Google.

And, you know, there was a slow collective realization in the room that this man who was in charge of interrogating a tech professional didn't understand that Google was a distinct company from Meta.

Do you think that there is sufficient...