Nish Kumar

It's been seen as something of a political chameleon within the Labour Party.

He was a Blairite.

He voted for the Iraq war.

In 2020, he voted for Starmer and said that, this is a quote directly, Keir is a brilliant man.

What does it say about where the Labour Party's compass is politically that even Burnham is being sidelined?

Because this is a really soft left figure.

It's the Labour Party sort of situating itself in a political space that really sort of appeals to a group of technocratic...

MPs and also people that have newspaper columns.

But actually, when you look at the way the country is going in terms of all of the polling data that's available to us, there's a lot of younger people skewing left.

The centre-right appears to have disappeared and seems to have been eaten by reform.

And now the Conservative Party are essentially just aping reform's tactics by saying we'll be even tougher on immigration and making wisecracks about people's mental health.

Am I reading too much into this?

Or is the Labour Party currently sort of trying to situate itself in a political space that does not have much cut through with the general public?

Is Andy Burnham available?

Genuinely good news.

Genuinely good news.

Every week, my friend Brett Goldstein listens to this podcast when he's not busy winning Emmys.

And every week he says, I'm going to listen to The Niche Makes Me Want To Kill Myself.

And he's like, is there any good news that you can ever offer me?

Or is this all terrible?