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So, the Epstein files have given us a flavour of the way in which elite financial interests, the distortion of state functions and gender imbalance converge to undermine the rule of law.

Now, Anne Pettifer, the economist who predicted the 2008 crash and was one of the architects of the Green New Deal, has written a new book which explains how this very same global elite have also rigged the financial system.

Anne, welcome to Pod Save the UK.

Great to be here.

It's a hell of a thing.

Is it a weird thing to walk around with that tag of the person who predicted the 2008 crash?

Okay, well, referring to a book that didn't sell is an incredible way to open a conversation that starts with your new book.

Your new book is called The Global Casino.

It's absolutely brilliant.

Before we talk about the issues it raises, just spell out to us the concept of the global casino.

There's

The derivatives market, there's people investing in speculation, essentially.

But one of the most alarming things about the book is how it explains how your pension is part of that investment.

They're not gambling with their money a lot of the time.

They're gambling with your money.