Nishka Ma

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I am increasingly aware that I'm looking more and more haggard on these shows. I've got a busy personal and professional life.

I am increasingly aware that I'm looking more and more haggard on these shows. I've got a busy personal and professional life.

It's ridiculous. It's a real kick in the teeth to get a comment from Glass Spider, who I'm going to assume is a fellow David Bowie fan. I'm just going to assume that that is a David Bowie reference. Yes. Why not tune into the YouTube feed to see how disheveled I look on a week-to-week basis?

It's ridiculous. It's a real kick in the teeth to get a comment from Glass Spider, who I'm going to assume is a fellow David Bowie fan. I'm just going to assume that that is a David Bowie reference. Yes. Why not tune into the YouTube feed to see how disheveled I look on a week-to-week basis?

After the break, we'll open the mailbag to hear your thoughts on how we should deal with disinformation.

After the break, we'll open the mailbag to hear your thoughts on how we should deal with disinformation.

We've been flooded with listener responses about this thorny question, and we'd like to thank you all for writing in. Lots of you are on board with the idea of debunking... fake news or nonsense, but not all of our listeners agreed. Hannah said that the media should ignore Musk as he's nothing more than a troll. He needs to go back to the bridge he crawled out from under.

We've been flooded with listener responses about this thorny question, and we'd like to thank you all for writing in. Lots of you are on board with the idea of debunking... fake news or nonsense, but not all of our listeners agreed. Hannah said that the media should ignore Musk as he's nothing more than a troll. He needs to go back to the bridge he crawled out from under.

Straight facts there from Hannah. Jason said, I don't believe that we should give Musk and his far-right fuckwit buddies the time of day because he's simply not worth it. However, I can totally understand why people are wanting to engage in it because the last thing you want is for these ideas to snowball.

Straight facts there from Hannah. Jason said, I don't believe that we should give Musk and his far-right fuckwit buddies the time of day because he's simply not worth it. However, I can totally understand why people are wanting to engage in it because the last thing you want is for these ideas to snowball.

We also had a fantastic response from Israel Butler, who's the head of narrative and framing at the Civil Liberties Union for Europe, who trains and supports progressive communicators on how to get the public on site. His comment was really insightful. Here's what he had to say. The way to get people to let go of misinformation is not by correcting the facts for them.

We also had a fantastic response from Israel Butler, who's the head of narrative and framing at the Civil Liberties Union for Europe, who trains and supports progressive communicators on how to get the public on site. His comment was really insightful. Here's what he had to say. The way to get people to let go of misinformation is not by correcting the facts for them.

It's by making them realize that the source of the misinformation is not trustworthy. I And you do this by exposing that they have hidden motives, which actually involve doing something that harms your audience.

It's by making them realize that the source of the misinformation is not trustworthy. I And you do this by exposing that they have hidden motives, which actually involve doing something that harms your audience.

Listen, I don't know if I'm just hungry. No. And the use of the word sandwich has made me think this is a great idea. But that sounds like a great sandwich.

Listen, I don't know if I'm just hungry. No. And the use of the word sandwich has made me think this is a great idea. But that sounds like a great sandwich.

Well, that's simply untrue.

Well, that's simply untrue.