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Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
Sounds like a really fun job title. And I may have just extracted this from what you said about your YouTube channel and things, but what do you do for fun?
Sounds like a really fun job title. And I may have just extracted this from what you said about your YouTube channel and things, but what do you do for fun?
Okay, I didn't extract that. Tell me about that.
Okay, I didn't extract that. Tell me about that.
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Our episode today is titled The Dark Corners of APIs, Uncovering Unknown APIs Lurking in the Shadows, where we speak with Katie Paxton-Fear.
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Our episode today is titled The Dark Corners of APIs, Uncovering Unknown APIs Lurking in the Shadows, where we speak with Katie Paxton-Fear.
That's amazing. I have to say kudos on your pursuit of analog activities. They are so important to have a balanced approach there. You spend most of your day in the digital world. So kudos on that.
That's amazing. I have to say kudos on your pursuit of analog activities. They are so important to have a balanced approach there. You spend most of your day in the digital world. So kudos on that.
No doubt. No doubt. Couldn't agree with that more. Well, let's dive into it then. So let's start uncovering some unknown APIs. Before we even go further, can you explain, you know, as we say that, what do we mean when we say unknown APIs? And, you know, there's obviously some different types there, right? Like some words you use like shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented APIs.
No doubt. No doubt. Couldn't agree with that more. Well, let's dive into it then. So let's start uncovering some unknown APIs. Before we even go further, can you explain, you know, as we say that, what do we mean when we say unknown APIs? And, you know, there's obviously some different types there, right? Like some words you use like shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented APIs.
That all makes sense. So why do these APIs often go unnoticed? And I'm just curious, why do they often go unnoticed and how do they become a security risk?
That all makes sense. So why do these APIs often go unnoticed? And I'm just curious, why do they often go unnoticed and how do they become a security risk?
APIs are the gateway to your digital infrastructure, but hidden deep in the recesses of your system are unknown APIs. Shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented, each of these present a unique threat to your organization and can be exploited by hackers.
APIs are the gateway to your digital infrastructure, but hidden deep in the recesses of your system are unknown APIs. Shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented, each of these present a unique threat to your organization and can be exploited by hackers.
So a lot of autonomy for a developer. You put an API out there, you check it four years later, it's still there, right? To your example. So they're lurking in the shadows because they're sort of done and then maybe kind of forgotten. But what makes these APIs such an attractive target for attackers? And maybe even can you share an example of how one of these APIs has been exploited?
So a lot of autonomy for a developer. You put an API out there, you check it four years later, it's still there, right? To your example. So they're lurking in the shadows because they're sort of done and then maybe kind of forgotten. But what makes these APIs such an attractive target for attackers? And maybe even can you share an example of how one of these APIs has been exploited?
Katie is an API hacker and researcher, and today she will take us on a journey through the API graveyard, sharing best practices for ensuring that they don't become your company's next security nightmare. Katie, thank you for being on the show today.
Katie is an API hacker and researcher, and today she will take us on a journey through the API graveyard, sharing best practices for ensuring that they don't become your company's next security nightmare. Katie, thank you for being on the show today.
That's very well described. You have illustrated, you know, the issue, these APIs, you know, to our title, lurking in the shadows that are unknown, but are just tantalizing to hackers. How can organizations begin to uncover these, you know, hidden APIs, these lurking APIs? And, you know, do you have any tools or strategies that you feel are effective in doing this?
That's very well described. You have illustrated, you know, the issue, these APIs, you know, to our title, lurking in the shadows that are unknown, but are just tantalizing to hackers. How can organizations begin to uncover these, you know, hidden APIs, these lurking APIs? And, you know, do you have any tools or strategies that you feel are effective in doing this?
I totally hear what you're saying there. These are great starting points. But if something's lurking in the shadows, it's going to be hard to find them all. And you need a plan of how to respond to that. And maybe that's part of what your answer will be in this next question. But I'm curious, in your experience, you're the guru, right? You know this world. You live this world every day.
I totally hear what you're saying there. These are great starting points. But if something's lurking in the shadows, it's going to be hard to find them all. And you need a plan of how to respond to that. And maybe that's part of what your answer will be in this next question. But I'm curious, in your experience, you're the guru, right? You know this world. You live this world every day.
What are some of the common mistakes that companies, organizations make to, you know, lead to these unknown APIs being created or overlooked? Like, how do they how do they get there in the first place? And maybe it's a little little bit of what, you know, you described in your four years ago example. But I'm curious, what are the common ones?
What are some of the common mistakes that companies, organizations make to, you know, lead to these unknown APIs being created or overlooked? Like, how do they how do they get there in the first place? And maybe it's a little little bit of what, you know, you described in your four years ago example. But I'm curious, what are the common ones?
Before we jump into our topic today, which is the dark corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows. Super ominous. It gives me chills talking about it. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
Before we jump into our topic today, which is the dark corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows. Super ominous. It gives me chills talking about it. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
Okay, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate you being on the show. It's very clear that these unknown APIs lurking in the shadows are a problem and are a tantalizing target for hackers. And you've illustrated some great ways to start to be proactive, but also to understand that if there's some lurking in the shadows, you're going to also have to have a reactive incident plan.
Okay, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate you being on the show. It's very clear that these unknown APIs lurking in the shadows are a problem and are a tantalizing target for hackers. And you've illustrated some great ways to start to be proactive, but also to understand that if there's some lurking in the shadows, you're going to also have to have a reactive incident plan.
And tools like Traceable are out there solving this problem for those proactive solutions. I really appreciate you being on the show today.
And tools like Traceable are out there solving this problem for those proactive solutions. I really appreciate you being on the show today.
And this concludes the Dark Corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows with Katie Paxton-Fear. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes the Dark Corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows with Katie Paxton-Fear. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai. And thanks again for listening.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Crowdbotics, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Crowdbotics, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Let's flip to the future then. Tell me about what the future looks like for Crowdbotics, the product and for your team.
Let's flip to the future then. Tell me about what the future looks like for Crowdbotics, the product and for your team.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something. You look up to and why.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something. You look up to and why.
On a last question, so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
On a last question, so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Anand, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Crowdbotics. Thank you so much. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Anand, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Crowdbotics. Thank you so much. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
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He published papers on human intelligence inside of software products and eventually founded LeadGenius, which was AI for sales and was supported by Andreessen Horowitz and Sam Altman. Outside of tech, he's married with two kids and used to be an avid rock climber. He also loves to eat tofu and has been picking up a lot more science fiction lately.
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This is the creation story of Crowdbotics.
This is the creation story of Crowdbotics.
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Okay, let's dive into the MVP. And I think this would be maybe post building that data set, or maybe it's a bit of an overlap there. You decide, but I'm curious about the MVP for Crowdbotics. How long did it take to build that portion? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Okay, let's dive into the MVP. And I think this would be maybe post building that data set, or maybe it's a bit of an overlap there. You decide, but I'm curious about the MVP for Crowdbotics. How long did it take to build that portion? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a second. And I hear you talking to some choices you had to make as far as technology and how you've evolved them now. But I'm curious about maybe some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through in building that first product. Could be around tech debt approach, feature limitation, all those things.
So let's stay on that MVP for a second. And I hear you talking to some choices you had to make as far as technology and how you've evolved them now. But I'm curious about maybe some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through in building that first product. Could be around tech debt approach, feature limitation, all those things.
And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So then from that MVP point, and you've kind of touched on a couple of these things, but I'm going to expand the question a little bit. I'm curious how you progressed and matured it. You know, you mentioned going from Vue to React. I'm curious about how you matured it.
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So then from that MVP point, and you've kind of touched on a couple of these things, but I'm going to expand the question a little bit. I'm curious how you progressed and matured it. You know, you mentioned going from Vue to React. I'm curious about how you matured it.
And to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm really curious about is how you built your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Crowdbotics?
And to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm really curious about is how you built your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Crowdbotics?
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Hello listeners, today we are releasing another episode in our series entitled Minting Unicorns, Blockchain, AI, and Dubai, sponsored by the Dubai Department of Economy and Tourism, or DET. Dubai is the new global center of gravity, connecting the world in a way few places can.
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So there's big plans, right, for Dubai. There's big plans for how to be the hub of innovation and AI and blockchain and fintech and all the things, right? How is DIFC planning to expand its role in this innovation ecosystem, say, over the next five to 10 years?
So there's big plans, right, for Dubai. There's big plans for how to be the hub of innovation and AI and blockchain and fintech and all the things, right? How is DIFC planning to expand its role in this innovation ecosystem, say, over the next five to 10 years?
Fantastic. Okay, a few more questions. What new programs or initiatives can we expect to see from the DIFC Innovation Hub? And I think you've touched on this again at a high level, but to attract global talent and businesses, what are some of the programs and initiatives that DFC is really going to focus on?
Fantastic. Okay, a few more questions. What new programs or initiatives can we expect to see from the DIFC Innovation Hub? And I think you've touched on this again at a high level, but to attract global talent and businesses, what are some of the programs and initiatives that DFC is really going to focus on?
Last question, Mohamed. What advice would you give to startups and entrepreneurs, particularly those from outside the UAE, who are considering Dubai as a base for their operations, right? They're excited about what they're doing. They're building amazing things. And they're looking at Dubai and going, yeah, they've got everything I need. What advice do you give those folks?
Last question, Mohamed. What advice would you give to startups and entrepreneurs, particularly those from outside the UAE, who are considering Dubai as a base for their operations, right? They're excited about what they're doing. They're building amazing things. And they're looking at Dubai and going, yeah, they've got everything I need. What advice do you give those folks?
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Mohamed, I really appreciate you being on the show today. It's very clear that the DIFC is a hub for innovation for Dubai. And this just adds to my understanding of all of the things that Dubai is offering to attract fantastic talent, fantastic companies and meant the next set of unicorns. So I really appreciate you being on the show today. Thank you. Thank you.
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Mohamed, I really appreciate you being on the show today. It's very clear that the DIFC is a hub for innovation for Dubai. And this just adds to my understanding of all of the things that Dubai is offering to attract fantastic talent, fantastic companies and meant the next set of unicorns. So I really appreciate you being on the show today. Thank you. Thank you.
Big time thanks to Mohamed for giving us a deeper understanding of how the DIFC Innovation Hub is shaping the future of innovation in Dubai. It's clear that the DIFC is a beacon of opportunity for startups and scale-ups looking to make a global impact. As a reminder, you can check out the resources mentioned during the show by visiting the show notes.
Big time thanks to Mohamed for giving us a deeper understanding of how the DIFC Innovation Hub is shaping the future of innovation in Dubai. It's clear that the DIFC is a beacon of opportunity for startups and scale-ups looking to make a global impact. As a reminder, you can check out the resources mentioned during the show by visiting the show notes.
There are links to the Dubai Blockchain Center, AI Campus, D33 Economic Agenda, and much more. And thanks again for listening.
There are links to the Dubai Blockchain Center, AI Campus, D33 Economic Agenda, and much more. And thanks again for listening.
Well, cool. I appreciate that. Let's move into our topic then. So what is the DIFC Innovation Hub and what role does it play in driving innovation in Dubai? Which is there's a lot of innovation going on. There's a lot of focus on tech and technology.
Well, cool. I appreciate that. Let's move into our topic then. So what is the DIFC Innovation Hub and what role does it play in driving innovation in Dubai? Which is there's a lot of innovation going on. There's a lot of focus on tech and technology.
and building the next set of unicorns, and I'm just curious where the DIFC comes into play, and how did it even come to be, and what vision does it fulfill?
and building the next set of unicorns, and I'm just curious where the DIFC comes into play, and how did it even come to be, and what vision does it fulfill?
From flexible regulations to tax incentives, world-class infrastructure to access to global investors managing a trillion dollars in investment money, Dubai understands what businesses need to scale fast.
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For today's episode, we are speaking with Mohamed Albulushi, CEO of the DIFC Innovation Hub, a driving force behind Dubai's innovation ecosystem and a key player in empowering startups and scale-ups across the MISA region. Well, Mohamed, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for being on CodeStory. Well, thank you for having me, Noah. Absolutely.
For today's episode, we are speaking with Mohamed Albulushi, CEO of the DIFC Innovation Hub, a driving force behind Dubai's innovation ecosystem and a key player in empowering startups and scale-ups across the MISA region. Well, Mohamed, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for being on CodeStory. Well, thank you for having me, Noah. Absolutely.
Okay, that's fantastic. Alongside the DIFC, I'm curious if you can tell me a little bit about the Dubai AI Campus. You know, what's its mission and how does it support the development of AI-driven innovation?
Okay, that's fantastic. Alongside the DIFC, I'm curious if you can tell me a little bit about the Dubai AI Campus. You know, what's its mission and how does it support the development of AI-driven innovation?
I'm excited to talk about the DIFC and all the things going on there. But before we move into that topic, tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
I'm excited to talk about the DIFC and all the things going on there. But before we move into that topic, tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
So let's move into some practical things. So I'm an entrepreneur looking to build the next big thing in fintech plus AI, right? How does the DIFC Innovation Hub support startups and scale-ups in this space? And are there any examples that you could share of businesses that have benefited from your ecosystem?
So let's move into some practical things. So I'm an entrepreneur looking to build the next big thing in fintech plus AI, right? How does the DIFC Innovation Hub support startups and scale-ups in this space? And are there any examples that you could share of businesses that have benefited from your ecosystem?
That's super exciting. Okay, so Dubai is positioning itself as a global hub for fintech, for AI, and for innovation. How does the DIFC contribute to making this vision a reality? And I think you've said a few things that have kind of pointed to where you're going there, but I want to give space for a full answer.
That's super exciting. Okay, so Dubai is positioning itself as a global hub for fintech, for AI, and for innovation. How does the DIFC contribute to making this vision a reality? And I think you've said a few things that have kind of pointed to where you're going there, but I want to give space for a full answer.
Very cool. Okay, so I want to kind of... Backtrack a little bit to a question that I think is interesting, and it touches on some of the things you said about talent and visas and some of those benefits there. Is it necessary for entrepreneurs to be physically located in Dubai or in the MISA region to join the Innovation Hub and its programs?
Very cool. Okay, so I want to kind of... Backtrack a little bit to a question that I think is interesting, and it touches on some of the things you said about talent and visas and some of those benefits there. Is it necessary for entrepreneurs to be physically located in Dubai or in the MISA region to join the Innovation Hub and its programs?
Or are global innovators able to participate from anywhere in the world?
Or are global innovators able to participate from anywhere in the world?
Excellent. I appreciate that answer. That's really good to clarify there. I want to move on to the Dubai AI license and the DIFC license. I think you may have touched on that a little bit, but what are they? Let's define what those are and how do these frameworks support entrepreneurs and businesses within the innovation ecosystem?
Excellent. I appreciate that answer. That's really good to clarify there. I want to move on to the Dubai AI license and the DIFC license. I think you may have touched on that a little bit, but what are they? Let's define what those are and how do these frameworks support entrepreneurs and businesses within the innovation ecosystem?
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So with the MVP, you got immediate pay. You started with an antiquated payroll, but then you started hooking up payrolls after that, pulling in feeds of information. I hear all that. What I'm curious about is how did you progress the product from there? And how did you mature it and put that kind of in a box? How did you build your roadmap?
So with the MVP, you got immediate pay. You started with an antiquated payroll, but then you started hooking up payrolls after that, pulling in feeds of information. I hear all that. What I'm curious about is how did you progress the product from there? And how did you mature it and put that kind of in a box? How did you build your roadmap?
I know the regulatory portion of it drove the initial roadmap forward. Um, but how did you decide, how did you and your team decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build?
I know the regulatory portion of it drove the initial roadmap forward. Um, but how did you decide, how did you and your team decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build?
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Let's switch to team. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Let's switch to team. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Matt Pierce has been a tech guy for his entire 17-year career. Coming out of grad school, he started out in healthcare tech for a decade or so. Eventually, he started down the path of being an entrepreneur. He's married with three daughters, two in third grade and one that is two years old.
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You know, I hear a lot the making sure you're a culture fit, making sure that you're mission driven, and that makes sense. But I really love the way you methodically self-reflected and self-being you or self-being the company and figured out, okay, where are our gaps? Where are our weaknesses? And let's fill roles where those areas are so that we can strengthen us as a whole.
You know, I hear a lot the making sure you're a culture fit, making sure that you're mission driven, and that makes sense. But I really love the way you methodically self-reflected and self-being you or self-being the company and figured out, okay, where are our gaps? Where are our weaknesses? And let's fill roles where those areas are so that we can strengthen us as a whole.
I think that's really unique. It's an incredibly brilliant approach. So kudos on that.
I think that's really unique. It's an incredibly brilliant approach. So kudos on that.
Well, let's flip to scalability. And scalability can mean a lot of different things. It can mean technology, infrastructure, and even people. So did you build this thing to scale efficiently from day one, or have you been fighting this as you grow?
Well, let's flip to scalability. And scalability can mean a lot of different things. It can mean technology, infrastructure, and even people. So did you build this thing to scale efficiently from day one, or have you been fighting this as you grow?
He mentioned the entrepreneurial dilemma of picking three of the five life choices, family, business, sleep, exercise, and friendships, and notes that his three are family, business, and sleep. After spending nights and weekends burning the midnight oil on a healthcare tech solution, Matt sat down with a prospective client and did the best pitch he'd ever done.
He mentioned the entrepreneurial dilemma of picking three of the five life choices, family, business, sleep, exercise, and friendships, and notes that his three are family, business, and sleep. After spending nights and weekends burning the midnight oil on a healthcare tech solution, Matt sat down with a prospective client and did the best pitch he'd ever done.
The client's feedback was that it didn't solve her real problem, which was turnover. and which, in her opinion, boiled down to money. He realized that America is in the grip of an affordability crisis, with 230 million Americans living paycheck to paycheck, making it challenging to make ends meet, much less cover any unexpected expenses that come up.
The client's feedback was that it didn't solve her real problem, which was turnover. and which, in her opinion, boiled down to money. He realized that America is in the grip of an affordability crisis, with 230 million Americans living paycheck to paycheck, making it challenging to make ends meet, much less cover any unexpected expenses that come up.
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
After chatting with the client and a mentor, Matt uncovered the best potential solution for financial stress by providing a debt-free solution for employees to access earned wages and a flexible solution for employers to strengthen their workforce. This is the creation story of Immediate.
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Let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Well, what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Well, what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person that you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person that you look up to and why.
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's a great challenge. I love that. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of immediate.
That's a great challenge. I love that. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of immediate.
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Let's jump into the MVP then. So that first product you built, right? You thought on it for a month, you got the feedback, you thought on it for a month and you decided, okay, I'm going to go out and I'm going to attack this. Tell me about the first product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
Let's jump into the MVP then. So that first product you built, right? You thought on it for a month, you got the feedback, you thought on it for a month and you decided, okay, I'm going to go out and I'm going to attack this. Tell me about the first product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
You talked about choosing the antiquated payroll because that was what your first customer was using. So that's a decision and a trade-off you had to make. They're like, we're going to go target this because that's what they got.
You talked about choosing the antiquated payroll because that was what your first customer was using. So that's a decision and a trade-off you had to make. They're like, we're going to go target this because that's what they got.
I'm curious if any of the regulatory investigation or anything like that caused any more trade-offs and decisions that you had to make as far as how you were going to build the product.
I'm curious if any of the regulatory investigation or anything like that caused any more trade-offs and decisions that you had to make as far as how you were going to build the product.
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And I'm curious, did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or scale in mind, obviously abstractions and things or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
And I'm curious, did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or scale in mind, obviously abstractions and things or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Cortex, the product, of course, but also for your team.
So this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Cortex, the product, of course, but also for your team.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Anishtar grew up in the Bay Area, but now is located in New York. He felt lucky to be surrounded by technology, being in the Bay Area and having his dad as a software engineer. His earliest exposure to tech was hacking his Wii, and at that point he was hooked. He eventually joined Uber and experienced many of the problems he is solving today.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Anishtar grew up in the Bay Area, but now is located in New York. He felt lucky to be surrounded by technology, being in the Bay Area and having his dad as a software engineer. His earliest exposure to tech was hacking his Wii, and at that point he was hooked. He eventually joined Uber and experienced many of the problems he is solving today.
Let's switch to you, Anish. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Anish. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Anish. So you're getting on a plane and sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Anish. So you're getting on a plane and sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Anish, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Cortex. Thank you so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Anish, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Cortex. Thank you so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
But outside of tech, he enjoys tennis and playing piano. He loves making music and attending shows to hear other artists, in particular EDM. While he was at Uber, Anish noticed that the company was a prime example of microservices gone wrong. Developers were going outside of standards, building services, not documenting them properly.
But outside of tech, he enjoys tennis and playing piano. He loves making music and attending shows to hear other artists, in particular EDM. While he was at Uber, Anish noticed that the company was a prime example of microservices gone wrong. Developers were going outside of standards, building services, not documenting them properly.
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He realized that every company he talked to had the same problem of service cataloging, and he felt confident to take the challenge on and apply to YC. This is the creation story of Cortex.
He realized that every company he talked to had the same problem of service cataloging, and he felt confident to take the challenge on and apply to YC. This is the creation story of Cortex.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
Stay in that era for a minute. You know, with any MVP, you got to build things with certain trade-offs in mind. You got to make certain decisions and trade-offs, right? You kind of touched it in a high level.
Stay in that era for a minute. You know, with any MVP, you got to build things with certain trade-offs in mind. You got to make certain decisions and trade-offs, right? You kind of touched it in a high level.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Maybe dig into one or two of around, you know, feature cut or approach or technical debt acceptance or, you know, building that MVP to just prove that the model is going to work, prove that the problem is there to solve. Tell me a little bit more about those decisions and trade-offs. And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
Maybe dig into one or two of around, you know, feature cut or approach or technical debt acceptance or, you know, building that MVP to just prove that the model is going to work, prove that the problem is there to solve. Tell me a little bit more about those decisions and trade-offs. And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
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And, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Cortex.
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I hear you talking about we and us. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Was it built with scale in mind kind of from day one or were there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Was it built with scale in mind kind of from day one or were there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with StackHawk in particular, what are you most proud of?
As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with StackHawk in particular, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Joni, this will be interesting to hear. And I always get excited to talk about the future, right, with the founders and what's next and where are you going? So tell me about that future. What does it look like for the product, for your team and for the whole company?
Joni, this will be interesting to hear. And I always get excited to talk about the future, right, with the founders and what's next and where are you going? So tell me about that future. What does it look like for the product, for your team and for the whole company?
Let's switch to you, Joni. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Joni. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Joni, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Maybe they're on their way to go to a Michelin restaurant with you and they just want to show off the thing that they have built. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane.
Joni, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Maybe they're on their way to go to a Michelin restaurant with you and they just want to show off the thing that they have built. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane.
What advice do you want to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
What advice do you want to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Joni, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of StackHawk.
That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Joni, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of StackHawk.
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Post getting her MBA, she built her early career in Boulder, Colorado, and became very technical, learning new technologies throughout the businesses she worked for, like VictorOps and Splunk. Outside of tech, she's married with two dogs. Her favorite thing to do is travel with her husband to visit Michelin star restaurants.
Post getting her MBA, she built her early career in Boulder, Colorado, and became very technical, learning new technologies throughout the businesses she worked for, like VictorOps and Splunk. Outside of tech, she's married with two dogs. Her favorite thing to do is travel with her husband to visit Michelin star restaurants.
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She dreamt of automating the pen testing remediation process and stumbled upon an opportunity as it relates to DAST, Dynamic Application Security Testing. This is the creation story of StackHawk.
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Let's dive into the MVP of StackHawk. So that first version of the product that you and your co-founder built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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To wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and how you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with StackHawk.
To wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and how you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with StackHawk.
Mark joined the board of MongoDB in 2019. What got him excited about the company was the world-changing nature of the product, so much so that he asked to step off the board to be CTO and carry the banner to the developer community about the power of their doc-based distributed system performing database transactions. This is Mark's story with MongoDB.
Mark joined the board of MongoDB in 2019. What got him excited about the company was the world-changing nature of the product, so much so that he asked to step off the board to be CTO and carry the banner to the developer community about the power of their doc-based distributed system performing database transactions. This is Mark's story with MongoDB.
Let me flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let me flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Well, Mark, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person you look up to and why.
Well, Mark, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person you look up to and why.
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but maybe a little bit different spin on the question. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but maybe a little bit different spin on the question. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
That's an awesome answer. And I really like the part at the very end that makes a ton of sense. You're taking different directions all the time because your leaders are listening to your people.
That's an awesome answer. And I really like the part at the very end that makes a ton of sense. You're taking different directions all the time because your leaders are listening to your people.
Well, Mark, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, Mark, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Fantastic advice. Well, Mark, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story and start at MongoDB.
Fantastic advice. Well, Mark, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story and start at MongoDB.
Same here. And this concludes another chapter of Coat Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. Support the show on patreon.com slash codestory for just five to ten bucks a month. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Tell me about what would be your MVP, Mark. So when you joined Mongo, what was the MVP or what was the product you took on, the state of the company? Tell me a little bit about that.
Tell me about what would be your MVP, Mark. So when you joined Mongo, what was the MVP or what was the product you took on, the state of the company? Tell me a little bit about that.
So as you're getting that message out to the world and as you're carrying the banner, I hear that you stepped off the board to be CTO. You're super excited about Mongo. In that process and in the process of advancing Mongo, you gotta make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you can do in the short term versus what you have to cut right then.
So as you're getting that message out to the world and as you're carrying the banner, I hear that you stepped off the board to be CTO. You're super excited about Mongo. In that process and in the process of advancing Mongo, you gotta make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you can do in the short term versus what you have to cut right then.
So tell me about some of those things in terms of your involvement with Mongo and how you coped with those decisions.
So tell me about some of those things in terms of your involvement with Mongo and how you coped with those decisions.
So from the point of starting and then progressing the product and your mission, how have you gone about that? I think what would be the most interesting thing in that is how you built your roadmap or approach or how you decided this is the next most important thing to address to enable developers to make those decisions.
So from the point of starting and then progressing the product and your mission, how have you gone about that? I think what would be the most interesting thing in that is how you built your roadmap or approach or how you decided this is the next most important thing to address to enable developers to make those decisions.
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Well, speaking of that team, tell me about your team and how you went about building it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Well, speaking of that team, tell me about your team and how you went about building it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
It makes a ton of sense. And that speedy consensus, makes also a ton of sense almost like the the speed of there's a little bit of alignment with speed of trust but i haven't heard exactly put that way that's really that's really interesting
It makes a ton of sense. And that speedy consensus, makes also a ton of sense almost like the the speed of there's a little bit of alignment with speed of trust but i haven't heard exactly put that way that's really that's really interesting
Mark Porter has always been fascinated with puzzles, so tech just fit and has been a great journey for him. He got his first 4K computer in middle school and then moved into doing programming for the Department of Education. His big learning from this was that you can use tech to do social good. He's married with five kids, and as he puts it, they put up with his deep tech obsession.
Mark Porter has always been fascinated with puzzles, so tech just fit and has been a great journey for him. He got his first 4K computer in middle school and then moved into doing programming for the Department of Education. His big learning from this was that you can use tech to do social good. He's married with five kids, and as he puts it, they put up with his deep tech obsession.
So it's interesting segue. Actually, it's a perfect segue. How you approached Mongo when you started and you set out to enable developers, you know, tell me about how you think about scalability or how the company thinks about scalability or how the approach to what you did. But was it built to scale or was it executed on scale efficiently from day one?
So it's interesting segue. Actually, it's a perfect segue. How you approached Mongo when you started and you set out to enable developers, you know, tell me about how you think about scalability or how the company thinks about scalability or how the approach to what you did. But was it built to scale or was it executed on scale efficiently from day one?
Or have you been fighting this and changing as you gain traction?
Or have you been fighting this and changing as you gain traction?
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Obviously to do something of this caliber, you have to have the right team in place. And I'm curious about how you have gone about and how you're going about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Obviously to do something of this caliber, you have to have the right team in place. And I'm curious about how you have gone about and how you're going about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
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For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be super fun. Given, you know, your experience and building all kinds of great stuff, building Chef and what you're diving into with System Initiative, I'm curious about scalability.
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And, you know, I'm sure that everything was built to scale from day one and with scale in mind, all those sorts of things. But I'm curious if there's any pinch points that were really hard or interesting around scale that you had to fight through.
And, you know, I'm sure that everything was built to scale from day one and with scale in mind, all those sorts of things. But I'm curious if there's any pinch points that were really hard or interesting around scale that you had to fight through.
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Adam Jacob grew up in Vancouver, but now lives north of San Francisco. He's married with a teenage daughter and grew up in the era of the internet that was bulletin-based.
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Adam Jacob grew up in Vancouver, but now lives north of San Francisco. He's married with a teenage daughter and grew up in the era of the internet that was bulletin-based.
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with System Initiative, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with System Initiative, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to ask. What does the future look like for System Initiative, for the product and for your team?
This will be fun to ask. What does the future look like for System Initiative, for the product and for your team?
He likes music, specifically heavy metal. He was raised on 80s hair metal, but also enjoys modern and Swedish metal, of which your host is very familiar. He also loves cats and at one point had a bangle, which is a cross between a tiger and a domestic cat.
He likes music, specifically heavy metal. He was raised on 80s hair metal, but also enjoys modern and Swedish metal, of which your host is very familiar. He also loves cats and at one point had a bangle, which is a cross between a tiger and a domestic cat.
OK, Adam, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
OK, Adam, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Previously, Adam was a key contributor at Chef and has spent many years building a successful platform, extending DevOps value with automated security and compliance.
Previously, Adam was a key contributor at Chef and has spent many years building a successful platform, extending DevOps value with automated security and compliance.
Okay, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
He and his now co-founder reached the limits of what could be achieved using conventional approaches in the space and decided to build a new tool to enable engineers to tackle complex infra and app management without compromising control. This is the creation story of System Initiative.
He and his now co-founder reached the limits of what could be achieved using conventional approaches in the space and decided to build a new tool to enable engineers to tackle complex infra and app management without compromising control. This is the creation story of System Initiative.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of System Initiative.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of System Initiative.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
the way that people who build video games think about stuff like unreal right so it's more like an engine that sits on top of all the data and then we use that data to then drive change into the world tell me about the mvp this will be interesting to hear where you start in this how long did it take to build what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life you know that first version right of system initiative
the way that people who build video games think about stuff like unreal right so it's more like an engine that sits on top of all the data and then we use that data to then drive change into the world tell me about the mvp this will be interesting to hear where you start in this how long did it take to build what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life you know that first version right of system initiative
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. The stories you don't read in the headlines. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart.
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In making some of those decisions and how you went about building it and then rebuilding it, you know, a few times, tell me about maybe a hard trade-off you had to make, you know, and how you coped with the decision. You know, it could have been around approach, positioning, you know, acceptance of any sort of debt maybe or anything like that.
In making some of those decisions and how you went about building it and then rebuilding it, you know, a few times, tell me about maybe a hard trade-off you had to make, you know, and how you coped with the decision. You know, it could have been around approach, positioning, you know, acceptance of any sort of debt maybe or anything like that.
But tell me about some of those you had to work through.
But tell me about some of those you had to work through.
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For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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How do you go about deciding what's the next most important thing to build or to address with system initiative?
How do you go about deciding what's the next most important thing to build or to address with system initiative?
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So I'm curious about team, mentioning the law of constraints and then also, you know, what you mentioned about people and asking and your customers and things like that. I'm curious about how you went about building your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Focus, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Focus, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So what does the future look like for Focus, the company, what you offer, and for the team?
So what does the future look like for Focus, the company, what you offer, and for the team?
Let's switch to you, Austin. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Austin. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Austin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Austin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Austin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Focused.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Austin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Focused.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time.
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The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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When it comes to food, he loves all of it in general, but has been drawn to Asian fusion lately. And he enjoys reading business books and sci-fi, of which Blade Runner was mentioned number one. Austin had several experiences with consulting firms where they operated under traditional land and expand models, i.e. increasing the footprint of their teams.
When it comes to food, he loves all of it in general, but has been drawn to Asian fusion lately. And he enjoys reading business books and sci-fi, of which Blade Runner was mentioned number one. Austin had several experiences with consulting firms where they operated under traditional land and expand models, i.e. increasing the footprint of their teams.
He felt passionate about building a services company that was designed to deprecate itself, starting with the wide world of DevOps. This is the creation story of Focused.
He felt passionate about building a services company that was designed to deprecate itself, starting with the wide world of DevOps. This is the creation story of Focused.
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So tell me about that first version of Focus. So the first thing you wanted to create where it was designed to deprecate itself and starting in the world of DevOps. Tell me about that first version. You know, I ask a lot of questions about MVPs on this podcast, but I'm curious about what you would consider the MVP, right, of Focus.
So tell me about that first version of Focus. So the first thing you wanted to create where it was designed to deprecate itself and starting in the world of DevOps. Tell me about that first version. You know, I ask a lot of questions about MVPs on this podcast, but I'm curious about what you would consider the MVP, right, of Focus.
I want to dive into it a little bit deeper around more decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that, you know, early version, quote unquote, right. Of your, of your company, of what you're offering.
I want to dive into it a little bit deeper around more decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that, you know, early version, quote unquote, right. Of your, of your company, of what you're offering.
And I could probably chair pick a few things in there, but I want to see which one do you think was the most impactful kind of decisions or trade-off you had to make and specifically that you made it and how you went through it and how you coped with that decision.
And I could probably chair pick a few things in there, but I want to see which one do you think was the most impactful kind of decisions or trade-off you had to make and specifically that you made it and how you went through it and how you coped with that decision.
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How did you progress and move forward? And you kind of alluded to some of this in your description of focus. But tell me about how you move forward. And, you know, maybe I would relate it to something like a roadmap or really how did you decide what was the next most important thing to address for the company?
How did you progress and move forward? And you kind of alluded to some of this in your description of focus. But tell me about how you move forward. And, you know, maybe I would relate it to something like a roadmap or really how did you decide what was the next most important thing to address for the company?
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Okay. Tell me about a mistake you made with SnapTrade and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay. Tell me about a mistake you made with SnapTrade and how you and your team responded to it.
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, how Brendan Wood focused in on the pain of broker integrations. and built the platform to connect them all. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Let's switch to you, Brendan, and then maybe this is the same answer that you had on our prior recording. Tell me about who influences the way that you work.
Let's switch to you, Brendan, and then maybe this is the same answer that you had on our prior recording. Tell me about who influences the way that you work.
Okay. Well, Brendan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times in different manners?
Okay. Well, Brendan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times in different manners?
And I'm curious if it'll be the same that you mentioned in the last podcast or it'll be something new.
And I'm curious if it'll be the same that you mentioned in the last podcast or it'll be something new.
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For sure. That's fantastic advice. Well, Brendan, thanks for coming back on the show and telling the creation story of SnapTrade. It's great to hear all the updates and the new product. Excited to root you on from the CodeStory sidelines.
For sure. That's fantastic advice. Well, Brendan, thanks for coming back on the show and telling the creation story of SnapTrade. It's great to hear all the updates and the new product. Excited to root you on from the CodeStory sidelines.
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In August of 2021, we interviewed Brendan Wood on the podcast to tell the creation story of Passive. After the recording, the company decided to pivot into a new market, focusing on solving their biggest pain point for other platforms. They were running into the problems surrounding integrations into brokers. In fact, they were spending 80% of engineering time on integrations.
In August of 2021, we interviewed Brendan Wood on the podcast to tell the creation story of Passive. After the recording, the company decided to pivot into a new market, focusing on solving their biggest pain point for other platforms. They were running into the problems surrounding integrations into brokers. In fact, they were spending 80% of engineering time on integrations.
People started to reach out to his team to ask if they could use the integrations. And they started ideating about making this its own product. This is the creation story of Snap Trade.
People started to reach out to his team to ask if they could use the integrations. And they started ideating about making this its own product. This is the creation story of Snap Trade.
So tell me what you would consider the MVP for SnapTrade. Tell me about that first version of SnapTrade, how long it took to build or to, you know, to bring it to life and what sort of tools you're using.
So tell me what you would consider the MVP for SnapTrade. Tell me about that first version of SnapTrade, how long it took to build or to, you know, to bring it to life and what sort of tools you're using.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you've got the MVP now. It's working. You're getting those early folks on it and you're getting some traction. How have you progressed it from that point and matured it? I'm curious about, you know, just the same with passive. How did you build your roadmap?
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How did you go about deciding this is the next most important thing or integration or enhancement to add to SnapTrade?
How did you go about deciding this is the next most important thing or integration or enhancement to add to SnapTrade?
Tell me about team. So is this the same team from passive? Have you had to expand the team? Tell me a little bit more about how have you gone about that process of ensuring you've got the right team in place?
Tell me about team. So is this the same team from passive? Have you had to expand the team? Tell me a little bit more about how have you gone about that process of ensuring you've got the right team in place?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Tell me about scalability, right? This will be interesting. So you're building the integrations into passive and then you take and pivot and use that as your product. How are you approaching scalability for SnapTrade? And has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony with SnapTrade and look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony with SnapTrade and look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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So as you step out on the balcony, in particular, or when it comes to Witness AI, when you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, in particular, or when it comes to Witness AI, when you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit, Rick. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit, Rick. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Tell me what the future looks like for Witness AI, the product and for your team. I know it's early days. So what is the vision? Cast it out there.
Tell me what the future looks like for Witness AI, the product and for your team. I know it's early days. So what is the vision? Cast it out there.
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Let's switch to you, Rick. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Rick. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Rick, last question. So you're getting on a plane, and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it, but can't wait to show it off to the world, and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person, having gone down this road a bit many, many times?
Rick, last question. So you're getting on a plane, and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it, but can't wait to show it off to the world, and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person, having gone down this road a bit many, many times?
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That's fantastic advice. Well, Rick, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Witness AI. Thanks, Noah. It's a pleasure to be here. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Rick, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Witness AI. Thanks, Noah. It's a pleasure to be here. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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Outside of tech, he's a cyclist in the bike club and enjoys spending time with his family. After speaking with a number of security officers at companies, Rick realized the enterprise situation with AI. Most companies are stuck trying to figure out how to enable their employees to use new tooling while still maintaining the level of security and control they have over data.
Outside of tech, he's a cyclist in the bike club and enjoys spending time with his family. After speaking with a number of security officers at companies, Rick realized the enterprise situation with AI. Most companies are stuck trying to figure out how to enable their employees to use new tooling while still maintaining the level of security and control they have over data.
Rick was asked to join a founding team to solve this problem. This is the creation story of Witness AI.
Rick was asked to join a founding team to solve this problem. This is the creation story of Witness AI.
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of Witness AI. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of Witness AI. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. Let's dive into maybe a decision or trade-off you had to make in building that first version, right? It could be around approach, feature cut or limitation, technical debt acceptance, all those things, right? Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. Let's dive into maybe a decision or trade-off you had to make in building that first version, right? It could be around approach, feature cut or limitation, technical debt acceptance, all those things, right? Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
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I know it's early, but there's still a process that you have to go through in figuring out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Witness AI, you know, around roadmap and things like that. So tell me about how you go about it.
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I'm curious, Miri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
I'm curious, Miri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Miri, this is going to be fun to hear your excitement in your voice. What does the future look like for Beams, for the product and for your team?
Miri, this is going to be fun to hear your excitement in your voice. What does the future look like for Beams, for the product and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, Miri. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, let's switch to you, Miri. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Miri, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Miri, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Absolutely. I love that advice. Well, Mary, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Beams.
Absolutely. I love that advice. Well, Mary, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Beams.
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This was related to the different number of tools used, along with the lack of a unified view for these tools. She and her co-founder clicked on this problem and decided to build a solution. This is the creation story of Beams.
This was related to the different number of tools used, along with the lack of a unified view for these tools. She and her co-founder clicked on this problem and decided to build a solution. This is the creation story of Beams.
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So let's dive into the MVP then, that first version, right, that first piece of the product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's dive into the MVP then, that first version, right, that first piece of the product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and I can hear a big one, right? Of not building a backend or not having that update system and, you know, sort of trade-offs that you have to make in the early days.
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and I can hear a big one, right? Of not building a backend or not having that update system and, you know, sort of trade-offs that you have to make in the early days.
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Maybe it's that, or maybe it's another one, but I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
Maybe it's that, or maybe it's another one, but I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Let's move forward then. So you've got the MVP done and you're moving forward. You're getting some traction. And you mentioned some of this progression, I think, in the overview of the company. I'm curious about how you progressed it and matured it.
And to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Beams.
And to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Beams.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Okay, this will be fun to ask. What's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Okay, this will be fun to ask. What's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Well, let's switch to you, Igor. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Well, let's switch to you, Igor. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And I heard part of your answer, you're like, if I could go back, I would do that differently. But perhaps this one is something that maybe worked, but you'd tweak it a little bit.
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And I heard part of your answer, you're like, if I could go back, I would do that differently. But perhaps this one is something that maybe worked, but you'd tweak it a little bit.
Okay, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's great advice. Miguel, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Unleash.
That's great advice. Miguel, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Unleash.
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Okay, let's dive into the MVP then. So the first product you built. You've had lots of conversations, and then you went about building the first product. product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
Okay, let's dive into the MVP then. So the first product you built. You've had lots of conversations, and then you went about building the first product. product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
So during that time, and maybe a little bit in that year, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around feature cut, tech debt, things like that that you're building. Tell me about some of those decisions that you had to make and how you coped with those decisions.
So during that time, and maybe a little bit in that year, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around feature cut, tech debt, things like that that you're building. Tell me about some of those decisions that you had to make and how you coped with those decisions.
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It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back.
It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back.
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Let's switch to team then. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Let's switch to team then. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting, you know, given the product that you're building and how you've gone about it in the story so far, tell me about scalability and how you approached it from the beginning. Was it built with scale in mind from day one, or did you fight this as you grew and gained traction?
Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting, you know, given the product that you're building and how you've gone about it in the story so far, tell me about scalability and how you approached it from the beginning. Was it built with scale in mind from day one, or did you fight this as you grew and gained traction?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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So your critical infrastructure, right? You're integrated into the thick of things. So I assume that scalability is important to a growing business, period. But I assume it was important to you in the beginning. But I'm curious, was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So your critical infrastructure, right? You're integrated into the thick of things. So I assume that scalability is important to a growing business, period. But I assume it was important to you in the beginning. But I'm curious, was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So UK, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
So UK, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
This will be fun. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
UK, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit? Like they're on the plane. They're excited. They can't wait to show you the product right there. What are you going to tell them?
UK, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit? Like they're on the plane. They're excited. They can't wait to show you the product right there. What are you going to tell them?
That's fantastic advice. Well, UK, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Opal security.
That's fantastic advice. Well, UK, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Opal security.
And this concludes another chapter of code story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of code story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
A fun fact about her, she was homeschooled until college, and growing up, she loved puzzles and math. She planned to be a math professor until she eventually got into startups in tech. She's a curious person with many hobbies and interests. In fact, she loves to cook and was a chef at Michelin star restaurants. She also likes to garden, growing food and also interesting plants.
A fun fact about her, she was homeschooled until college, and growing up, she loved puzzles and math. She planned to be a math professor until she eventually got into startups in tech. She's a curious person with many hobbies and interests. In fact, she loves to cook and was a chef at Michelin star restaurants. She also likes to garden, growing food and also interesting plants.
In the past, UK found herself drawn towards real world problems in real time. What she found herself noticing was that access management was incredibly messy and that people weren't willing to look behind the curtain to fix the problem. After she noticed that this problem kept surfacing, she then decided to solve it. This is the creation story of Opal Security.
In the past, UK found herself drawn towards real world problems in real time. What she found herself noticing was that access management was incredibly messy and that people weren't willing to look behind the curtain to fix the problem. After she noticed that this problem kept surfacing, she then decided to solve it. This is the creation story of Opal Security.
Let's dive into the MVP or what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's when you're building internally or maybe it's after. Tell me about that and how you put it together, what sort of tools you're using and how long it took you to build.
Let's dive into the MVP or what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's when you're building internally or maybe it's after. Tell me about that and how you put it together, what sort of tools you're using and how long it took you to build.
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OK, so with any MVP, right, you got to make certain decisions and tradeoffs. OK, when you're when you're building a product, when you are making choices about the features you're going to lean into first and how you're going to go about it. So wrap that into technical debt or feature cut or approach and those things. And they're hard to work through.
OK, so with any MVP, right, you got to make certain decisions and tradeoffs. OK, when you're when you're building a product, when you are making choices about the features you're going to lean into first and how you're going to go about it. So wrap that into technical debt or feature cut or approach and those things. And they're hard to work through.
Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make and how you coped with them.
Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make and how you coped with them.
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You've got the MVP and it's built, right? Let's move forward. Let's progress forward with the product and the company. How did you mature it from that point and progress it? And I'm curious about, you know, roadmap, right? I'm curious about how you built your roadmap and what sort of criteria you're using to figure out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Opal.
You've got the MVP and it's built, right? Let's move forward. Let's progress forward with the product and the company. How did you mature it from that point and progress it? And I'm curious about, you know, roadmap, right? I'm curious about how you built your roadmap and what sort of criteria you're using to figure out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Opal.
You know, you said you said we a few times. I'm curious about team. Right. How do you go about building your team? How did you and how do you and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're they're the right people, the right horses to join you?
You know, you said you said we a few times. I'm curious about team. Right. How do you go about building your team? How did you and how do you and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're they're the right people, the right horses to join you?
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I'm curious about team. How did you go about building your team, and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
I'm curious about team. How did you go about building your team, and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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It's not like building a product where you're just throwing AWS spend at it. So tell me about that.
It's not like building a product where you're just throwing AWS spend at it. So tell me about that.
No, I haven't. I haven't.
No, I haven't. I haven't.
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As you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Raptive, what are you most proud of?
As you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Raptive, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for RapDev, for what you offer, for what you're building to support what you offer and for your team.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for RapDev, for what you offer, for what you're building to support what you offer and for your team.
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Okay, Tamim, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, Tamim, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, to me, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or starting the next big engineering services firm. They're jazzed about it. You're sitting right next to them. They can't wait to tell you about it, show it off to you on the plane. What advice do you give that person, you know, having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, to me, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or starting the next big engineering services firm. They're jazzed about it. You're sitting right next to them. They can't wait to tell you about it, show it off to you on the plane. What advice do you give that person, you know, having gone down this road a bit?
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Well, that's fantastic advice. Well, Tamim, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of RapDev.
Well, that's fantastic advice. Well, Tamim, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of RapDev.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting.
Who share what it takes to change an industry.
Who share what it takes to change an industry.
It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people.
It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lapart. And today, how Tamim Hirani is helping you move fast in the cloud by enabling you to deploy Datadog and ServiceNow fast. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences.
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With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolf Pack at qawolf.com. Tamim Harani was born in the Middle East on a small island. He came to the States, Boston specifically, for school in 2006. He planned on four years of engineering, which turned into 19 years of life.
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He became a citizen of the US during COVID and spent many years of his career at Wayfair, which he thoroughly enjoyed. But outside of tech, he is a new father and spends a lot of time with his newborn. He loves being in the ocean, scuba diving, kite surfing, and alongside that, collecting vintage watches. In the past, Tamim had been burned by consulting firms.
He became a citizen of the US during COVID and spent many years of his career at Wayfair, which he thoroughly enjoyed. But outside of tech, he is a new father and spends a lot of time with his newborn. He loves being in the ocean, scuba diving, kite surfing, and alongside that, collecting vintage watches. In the past, Tamim had been burned by consulting firms.
He saw a gap in the industry, and when he left his prior role at Wayfair, he wanted to become a trusted, transparent technology partner, the one that he had longed for in his previous roles. This is the creation story of RapDev.
He saw a gap in the industry, and when he left his prior role at Wayfair, he wanted to become a trusted, transparent technology partner, the one that he had longed for in his previous roles. This is the creation story of RapDev.
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I appreciate you clarifying that around product versus services. I also know that you've probably built some technology to help you move into this space a bit. And we'll get into that a little bit later. But tell me about what you would consider... You know, the MVP for RapDev, right? Okay, so it's a services organization, right?
I appreciate you clarifying that around product versus services. I also know that you've probably built some technology to help you move into this space a bit. And we'll get into that a little bit later. But tell me about what you would consider... You know, the MVP for RapDev, right? Okay, so it's a services organization, right?
You're providing services, but there's still like kind of that first version that you stepped out and did. Tell me about that version and what sort of tools or methods or, you know, thought processes were you using to bring it to life?
You're providing services, but there's still like kind of that first version that you stepped out and did. Tell me about that version and what sort of tools or methods or, you know, thought processes were you using to bring it to life?
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And I'm curious about, you know, if there was any sort of quote unquote roadmap for how you shaped Raptive and how you decided what was the next most important thing to build or to address or to shape?
And I'm curious about, you know, if there was any sort of quote unquote roadmap for how you shaped Raptive and how you decided what was the next most important thing to build or to address or to shape?
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This will be interesting. My next question around scalability, you know, given my understanding of crypto and I think my audience's understanding of crypto.
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So I'm just going to I'm going to ask it kind of blindly and just hear what you have to say. Was this built to scale from from day one or is there are there areas where you've had to fight this as you've grown?
So I'm just going to I'm going to ask it kind of blindly and just hear what you have to say. Was this built to scale from from day one or is there are there areas where you've had to fight this as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with LightSpark. What are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with LightSpark. What are you most proud of?
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to ask and, you know, anything about the Coinbase integration and choice there and just your clear passion for the space. Tell me what the future looks like for LightSpark, the product, and for your team.
This will be fun to ask and, you know, anything about the Coinbase integration and choice there and just your clear passion for the space. Tell me what the future looks like for LightSpark, the product, and for your team.
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Let's switch to you, Kevin. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Kevin. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Kevin. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Kevin. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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That's fantastic advice. Well, Kevin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of LightSpark. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Kevin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of LightSpark. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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Kevin Hurley grew up in a multi-kid house, which is where he got his competitive nature. He used to play two-on-two with his dad and siblings at home. He went to school for electrical engineering and, funny enough, interviewed for a computer science job by accident, effectively stumbling into the trade.
Kevin Hurley grew up in a multi-kid house, which is where he got his competitive nature. He used to play two-on-two with his dad and siblings at home. He went to school for electrical engineering and, funny enough, interviewed for a computer science job by accident, effectively stumbling into the trade.
Outside of tech, he spends his free time with his fiancée, planning for the wedding and visiting Manhattan Beach for a good walk. Kevin was part of the team that attempted to launch crypto at Facebook. Although that didn't work out, they realized that the backbone of the system needed to be built on something more common and something that was lightning fast.
Outside of tech, he spends his free time with his fiancée, planning for the wedding and visiting Manhattan Beach for a good walk. Kevin was part of the team that attempted to launch crypto at Facebook. Although that didn't work out, they realized that the backbone of the system needed to be built on something more common and something that was lightning fast.
This is the creation story of LightSpark.
This is the creation story of LightSpark.
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting for that first version of LightSpark that you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting for that first version of LightSpark that you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
In building that MVP, and you touched on some of these in a high level, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that first version, right? And maybe it was something you learned, or maybe it was some hard decision you had to make as far as how you were going to approach it, what you were going to prove, all those sorts of things.
In building that MVP, and you touched on some of these in a high level, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that first version, right? And maybe it was something you learned, or maybe it was some hard decision you had to make as far as how you were going to approach it, what you were going to prove, all those sorts of things.
Maybe dive in a little more to some of those decisions and trade-offs and how you coped with them.
Maybe dive in a little more to some of those decisions and trade-offs and how you coped with them.
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I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about and how do you still go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with LightSpark.
I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about and how do you still go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with LightSpark.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dude.
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So I'm curious, you said we a few times, and I'm curious about how you went about building your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I'm curious, you said we a few times, and I'm curious about how you went about building your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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This will be probably a unique answer because there's a different, I think there's a different approach to this for the industry that you're in. But I'm curious about scalability. How do you go about or how did you go about scaling presence? There's people there, there's technology internal, and then there's probably tech that you're building. But I'm curious about how you approach that.
This will be probably a unique answer because there's a different, I think there's a different approach to this for the industry that you're in. But I'm curious about scalability. How do you go about or how did you go about scaling presence? There's people there, there's technology internal, and then there's probably tech that you're building. But I'm curious about how you approach that.
And if there's been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown.
And if there's been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across what you've built and created with presence, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across what you've built and created with presence, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's switch to you, Eric. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Eric. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Eric Mueller lives in San Francisco and explored many different paths before landing in tech. Architecture, photography, but ultimately, he settled into the creativity, building, and planning aspects of creating software. Outside of tech, he's married with one kid and a great trade-off with his wife. He does all the cooking while she does the cleaning.
Eric Mueller lives in San Francisco and explored many different paths before landing in tech. Architecture, photography, but ultimately, he settled into the creativity, building, and planning aspects of creating software. Outside of tech, he's married with one kid and a great trade-off with his wife. He does all the cooking while she does the cleaning.
Okay, last question, Eric. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur, builder, leader, engineering leader. who has created the next big thing or is about to go create the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane.
Okay, last question, Eric. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur, builder, leader, engineering leader. who has created the next big thing or is about to go create the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane.
What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story at Presence.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story at Presence.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He still loves photography and takes pictures regularly with his Olympus OM-1. Eleven years ago, Eric joined his current venture as a consultant, taking on projects and delivering value. He was brought on board six to seven months later and started down the path where he would lead the engineering and security arms of your partner in creating digital products.
He still loves photography and takes pictures regularly with his Olympus OM-1. Eleven years ago, Eric joined his current venture as a consultant, taking on projects and delivering value. He was brought on board six to seven months later and started down the path where he would lead the engineering and security arms of your partner in creating digital products.
This is Eric's creation story at Presence.
This is Eric's creation story at Presence.
Normally I'm interviewing, you know, product builders, like specific product builders, and you are running a team that's building those products.
Normally I'm interviewing, you know, product builders, like specific product builders, and you are running a team that's building those products.
So lots of different products, but I'm curious about what was your MVP, Eric, when you joined the company, those early days, maybe it was when you were a consultant or maybe it was when you were brought on board, but what was the MVP of when you joined the company and how long did it take you to bring it to life?
So lots of different products, but I'm curious about what was your MVP, Eric, when you joined the company, those early days, maybe it was when you were a consultant or maybe it was when you were brought on board, but what was the MVP of when you joined the company and how long did it take you to bring it to life?
With any sort of minimum product that you're building, you got to make decisions and trade-offs right around maybe how you're going to reduce scope or what is that minimum lovable piece of functionality, right? That people are going to get jazzed about.
With any sort of minimum product that you're building, you got to make decisions and trade-offs right around maybe how you're going to reduce scope or what is that minimum lovable piece of functionality, right? That people are going to get jazzed about.
So tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to work through either with this, you know, first MVP or mini and how you've coped with those decisions.
So tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to work through either with this, you know, first MVP or mini and how you've coped with those decisions.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This question is going to be interesting because so it could be roadmap for a product, which I think you just kind of touched on there. But I'm curious about, you know, how you approach that with presence as a whole for the products you're building, but also for presence itself.
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This question is going to be interesting because so it could be roadmap for a product, which I think you just kind of touched on there. But I'm curious about, you know, how you approach that with presence as a whole for the products you're building, but also for presence itself.
What does the roadmap look like and how you decide what you do next for your digital partnership?
What does the roadmap look like and how you decide what you do next for your digital partnership?
Okay, I'm curious about team. To do things at the caliber that Presence is doing, you have to have the right team. So tell me about how you go about building that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Okay, I'm curious about team. To do things at the caliber that Presence is doing, you have to have the right team. So tell me about how you go about building that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Eric Mueller... leads the engineering and security charge at a business who aims to be your digital partner. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Was Formidium built to scale from day one, either from a product perspective or from a services perspective? Or have there been areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Was Formidium built to scale from day one, either from a product perspective or from a services perspective? Or have there been areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built with Formidium. What are you most proud of?
As you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built with Formidium. What are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be super fun to hear the passion in your voice, the excitement. What does the future look like for Formidium, the product side, the service side, and for your whole team?
So this will be super fun to hear the passion in your voice, the excitement. What does the future look like for Formidium, the product side, the service side, and for your whole team?
Shaolin Madan immigrated to the U.S. when he was six years old. He spent 20 years in the financial markets, of which he got into when he was a teenager. His first and best memory of the industry is when Netscape IPO'd and the stock went up 300% in the first day. Outside of finance and tech, he enjoys cooking, frequents the gym, and loves to travel.
Shaolin Madan immigrated to the U.S. when he was six years old. He spent 20 years in the financial markets, of which he got into when he was a teenager. His first and best memory of the industry is when Netscape IPO'd and the stock went up 300% in the first day. Outside of finance and tech, he enjoys cooking, frequents the gym, and loves to travel.
OK, I want to switch to you, Sheldon. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
OK, I want to switch to you, Sheldon. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Shalen. So you're getting on a plane. And you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Shalen. So you're getting on a plane. And you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sheldon, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Formidium.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sheldon, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Formidium.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He's also a learner, studying philosophy, relationships, and of course, the macro economy. Shallon found himself frustrated with working for others, which drove him into entrepreneurship. When he came across his current venture as a client, he invested in the firm, became part of it, and eventually became the last co-founder in a company administrating funds with cutting-edge technology.
He's also a learner, studying philosophy, relationships, and of course, the macro economy. Shallon found himself frustrated with working for others, which drove him into entrepreneurship. When he came across his current venture as a client, he invested in the firm, became part of it, and eventually became the last co-founder in a company administrating funds with cutting-edge technology.
This is the creation story of Formidium.
This is the creation story of Formidium.
Let's dive into what you would consider either the company's MVP or your MVP at the company, right? So that first version of either the product or the product as you knew it when you came in and became that co-founder. Tell me about what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it took you to conceive it.
Let's dive into what you would consider either the company's MVP or your MVP at the company, right? So that first version of either the product or the product as you knew it when you came in and became that co-founder. Tell me about what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it took you to conceive it.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Nothing on the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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You kind of dove into a couple here, but I want to maybe settle into a decision or trade-off you had to make in the early days in building for Medium. It could be around approach, and I think you mentioned some of the things there. It could be around acceptance and where you start. Tell me, dive in a little bit more into maybe decisions, trade-offs you had to make.
You kind of dove into a couple here, but I want to maybe settle into a decision or trade-off you had to make in the early days in building for Medium. It could be around approach, and I think you mentioned some of the things there. It could be around acceptance and where you start. Tell me, dive in a little bit more into maybe decisions, trade-offs you had to make.
And specifically, I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
And specifically, I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
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You've got, you've got the product as an entrepreneur. You've, you've got it. You, you see the vision moving forward. You've got a little bit of traction. Maybe tell me about how you progress the product and matured it. And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, you know, and I know there's, there's two sides here. There's technology and services.
You've got, you've got the product as an entrepreneur. You've, you've got it. You, you see the vision moving forward. You've got a little bit of traction. Maybe tell me about how you progress the product and matured it. And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, you know, and I know there's, there's two sides here. There's technology and services.
I'm curious about roadmap and how those things sort of interplay there in the roadmap and how you go about deciding, okay, this is the main, Next most important thing to build or to address with Formidio.
I'm curious about roadmap and how those things sort of interplay there in the roadmap and how you go about deciding, okay, this is the main, Next most important thing to build or to address with Formidio.
i think that has been vitally important in terms of accelerating our goals around automation so so i hear you talking about we and and how we do these things tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you so we have a a fairly distributed team globally
i think that has been vitally important in terms of accelerating our goals around automation so so i hear you talking about we and and how we do these things tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you so we have a a fairly distributed team globally
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Okay, let's flip to scalability then. So was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind? Or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Okay, let's flip to scalability then. So was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind? Or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Checkmate, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Checkmate, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for where you're going and for your team.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for where you're going and for your team.
He noted that this city exports some of the best tea in the world. Prior to his current venture, he was the chief marketing officer for Choi. Outside of tech, he's an avid tennis lover and follows cricket and basketball closely, though he admits now that he has a two and a half year old child, his time is mostly dedicated to him.
He noted that this city exports some of the best tea in the world. Prior to his current venture, he was the chief marketing officer for Choi. Outside of tech, he's an avid tennis lover and follows cricket and basketball closely, though he admits now that he has a two and a half year old child, his time is mostly dedicated to him.
Let's switch to you, Vishal. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Vishal. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
In attempting to solve the problem of splitting the check, Vishal discovered that restaurants had a real problem with having multiple tablets for the many order and delivery services, like Grubhub, DoorDash, etc. When he saw this problem proliferate, he validated that people were willing to pay for a solution. This is the creation story of Checkmate.
In attempting to solve the problem of splitting the check, Vishal discovered that restaurants had a real problem with having multiple tablets for the many order and delivery services, like Grubhub, DoorDash, etc. When he saw this problem proliferate, he validated that people were willing to pay for a solution. This is the creation story of Checkmate.
Vishal, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Vishal, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's great advice. Well, Vishal, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Checkmate.
I think that's great advice. Well, Vishal, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Checkmate.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Let's dive into the MVP for Checkmate. So that first version of the product that your CTO built. How long did it take to build? Which you mentioned, but tell me a little bit more there. And what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP for Checkmate. So that first version of the product that your CTO built. How long did it take to build? Which you mentioned, but tell me a little bit more there. And what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that MVP for just a minute. When building any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs. Maybe it's around feature cut, technology. You mentioned the technologies you chose, but why you chose technology or approach or acceptance of technical debt, things like that. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
Let's stay on that MVP for just a minute. When building any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs. Maybe it's around feature cut, technology. You mentioned the technologies you chose, but why you chose technology or approach or acceptance of technical debt, things like that. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
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And how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Checkmate?
And how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Checkmate?
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Was it built to scale from day one or with scale in mind, like abstractions, architecture, things like that? Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Was it built to scale from day one or with scale in mind, like abstractions, architecture, things like that? Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built with Checkly, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built with Checkly, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So you kind of are leading into this a little bit in the last part of your answer, but I'm curious what the future looks like, right? So you mentioned this earlier, some things that you want to go accomplish. What does that future look like for the product and for your team?
So you kind of are leading into this a little bit in the last part of your answer, but I'm curious what the future looks like, right? So you mentioned this earlier, some things that you want to go accomplish. What does that future look like for the product and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, Hannes. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, let's switch to you, Hannes. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Honest last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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That's fantastic advice. Well, Hannes, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Checkly. Thank you for inviting me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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This is the creation story of Checkly.
This is the creation story of Checkly.
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Let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. And there's a couple of things that you said that really kind of drives this question home. It's around decisions and tradeoffs, right? When you're building an MVP, you've got to make decisions and tradeoffs around feature cut, around how you're going to move forward, what sort of technical debt you're going to accept, all those things, right?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. And there's a couple of things that you said that really kind of drives this question home. It's around decisions and tradeoffs, right? When you're building an MVP, you've got to make decisions and tradeoffs around feature cut, around how you're going to move forward, what sort of technical debt you're going to accept, all those things, right?
I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with the decisions.
I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with the decisions.
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This will be interesting. And you kind of teed it up perfectly. I'm curious about team, right? So those people that you're assigning to those 25%, the 25% signing to those lists, how do you find them? What do you look for in those people? How do you build that team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
This will be interesting. And you kind of teed it up perfectly. I'm curious about team, right? So those people that you're assigning to those 25%, the 25% signing to those lists, how do you find them? What do you look for in those people? How do you build that team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Matt's married with two kids, loves sports, specifically Illinois basketball, and loves to play music and golf. He likes to travel with his wife to see family and make frequent visits to their lake house. In his professional past, Matt held several roles in SaaS companies and startups.
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Well, let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Well, let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Eventually, he met a company that was an artificial intelligence consultancy, which had a POC around skill assessments. They wanted to start up a separate company to support and launch this POC. This is when Matt got involved. This is the creation story of QuantHub.
Eventually, he met a company that was an artificial intelligence consultancy, which had a POC around skill assessments. They wanted to start up a separate company to support and launch this POC. This is when Matt got involved. This is the creation story of QuantHub.
This will be fun to ask. I always love to hear the answer from my guest. What does the future look like for QuantHub, the product, and for your team?
This will be fun to ask. I always love to hear the answer from my guest. What does the future look like for QuantHub, the product, and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a CEO, CTO, architect, really any person that you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a CEO, CTO, architect, really any person that you look up to and why.
We talked about a mistake, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
We talked about a mistake, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's great advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of QuantHub.
I think that's great advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of QuantHub.
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Tell me about the MVP. So tell me about that first product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you and your team use to bring it to life?
Tell me about the MVP. So tell me about that first product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you and your team use to bring it to life?
So with any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you're going to cut in the short term or what you're going to include in the short term and what sort of technical debt you're going to take on or even approach debt. If that's a term, I may have just made that up. But tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs that you made and how you coped with them.
So with any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you're going to cut in the short term or what you're going to include in the short term and what sort of technical debt you're going to take on or even approach debt. If that's a term, I may have just made that up. But tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs that you made and how you coped with them.
This is Code Story, the podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share in the critical moments of what it takes to change an industry and build and lead a team that has your back. I'm your host, Noah Laphart. And today, how Matt Cowell created a necessary platform to assess data skills and upskill your workforce. All this and more on CodeStory.
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So from that point, you've got your MVP built. How did you progress it? How did you mature it? And to give kind of context to where I'm going with that question, how did you build your roadmap and decide, okay, now this is the next most important thing to build?
So from that point, you've got your MVP built. How did you progress it? How did you mature it? And to give kind of context to where I'm going with that question, how did you build your roadmap and decide, okay, now this is the next most important thing to build?
Well, let's switch to team. So how did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Well, let's switch to team. So how did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Matt Cowell didn't start out in tech. In fact, he studied the chemical world heavily in school, getting his bachelor's in chemistry and master's in chemical engineering. So, by trade, he was clearly a chemist. However, when he joined Accenture, he started in with programming and established the SDLC methodology for the company.
Matt Cowell didn't start out in tech. In fact, he studied the chemical world heavily in school, getting his bachelor's in chemistry and master's in chemical engineering. So, by trade, he was clearly a chemist. However, when he joined Accenture, he started in with programming and established the SDLC methodology for the company.
Let's flip to scalability. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or were you fighting this as you grow?
Let's flip to scalability. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or were you fighting this as you grow?
So you're kind of. growing with your growth, right? You're campus recruiting, you're hitting some scale issues, you're fixing them, your campus recruiting, scale issues, fixing them, and you're growing as you need to sort of just in time.
So you're kind of. growing with your growth, right? You're campus recruiting, you're hitting some scale issues, you're fixing them, your campus recruiting, scale issues, fixing them, and you're growing as you need to sort of just in time.
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Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. William, tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. William, tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
William, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Basket, for the product and for your team. Future is cool, man.
William, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Basket, for the product and for your team. Future is cool, man.
William Neil had an interesting childhood in New Zealand, rooted in being an entrepreneur. As a kid, he helped write business plans with his parents or build makery stuff for projects. Living this type of childhood combined with the creativity of music started a lifelong trend of building businesses and products.
William Neil had an interesting childhood in New Zealand, rooted in being an entrepreneur. As a kid, he helped write business plans with his parents or build makery stuff for projects. Living this type of childhood combined with the creativity of music started a lifelong trend of building businesses and products.
Let's switch to you, William. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, William. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
William, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
William, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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He's always longed for a flexible life to keep him present for his young family and to allow for the option to travel. He loves spending time with his kids on the beach and exploring the country as a family. William and his co-founder met in a coffee shop in London. As they were chatting about prior projects, they figured out there was a lot of overlap in the things they were interested in.
He's always longed for a flexible life to keep him present for his young family and to allow for the option to travel. He loves spending time with his kids on the beach and exploring the country as a family. William and his co-founder met in a coffee shop in London. As they were chatting about prior projects, they figured out there was a lot of overlap in the things they were interested in.
Eventually, they returned and built some solutions together. And off the back of a prior wish list project, they decided to make an online shopping cart to end all others. This is the creation story of Basket.
Eventually, they returned and built some solutions together. And off the back of a prior wish list project, they decided to make an online shopping cart to end all others. This is the creation story of Basket.
Tell me about that MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about that MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind, All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind, All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So then you've got that MVP, you got it to your launch version, you release it and you're getting some traction. Like it worked and you're excited about it. Tell me about how you progress the product from there and matured it.
And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building a roadmap and how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Baskin.
And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building a roadmap and how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Baskin.
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Okay, so I'm curious about team. And I heard you mention, you know, your co founder and other folks, and then also shopping some agencies in the early days. And I'm curious if that has changed or evolved. But tell me about team. I'm curious about how you built it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Okay, so I'm curious about team. And I heard you mention, you know, your co founder and other folks, and then also shopping some agencies in the early days. And I'm curious if that has changed or evolved. But tell me about team. I'm curious about how you built it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Did you build this to scale from day one or with scale in mind, maybe with abstractions and things like that? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Did you build this to scale from day one or with scale in mind, maybe with abstractions and things like that? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with OutPave, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with OutPave, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. What does the future look like for OutPave, the product, and for your team?
Okay, this will be fun. What does the future look like for OutPave, the product, and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, David. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, let's switch to you, David. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Well, it'll be interesting to hear your response to this next question, given that of what we just talked about. I'm curious if it's the same or if it's something different. But say you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world.
Well, it'll be interesting to hear your response to this next question, given that of what we just talked about. I'm curious if it's the same or if it's something different. But say you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world.
Can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
David Cothran grew up in Dallas, Texas, and attended UTD for undergrad. Post that, he spent 22 years at Texas Instruments, who makes a whole lot more than calculators, serving in numerous roles in IT, the latter being e-commerce. But outside of tech, he's married with two kids and really enjoys spending time with his family, going to Disney, biking, and running.
David Cothran grew up in Dallas, Texas, and attended UTD for undergrad. Post that, he spent 22 years at Texas Instruments, who makes a whole lot more than calculators, serving in numerous roles in IT, the latter being e-commerce. But outside of tech, he's married with two kids and really enjoys spending time with his family, going to Disney, biking, and running.
That's fantastic advice. Well, David, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Outpave.
That's fantastic advice. Well, David, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Outpave.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
In addition to this, he plays Minecraft with his kids and attends gymnastic meets and Boy Scout campouts. David was contacted by his current founder and friend who was going through an intrapreneurship program at SAP. After winning the program but having it be shut down, he asked David if he was available to start a company and create the Concur for small to medium construction businesses.
In addition to this, he plays Minecraft with his kids and attends gymnastic meets and Boy Scout campouts. David was contacted by his current founder and friend who was going through an intrapreneurship program at SAP. After winning the program but having it be shut down, he asked David if he was available to start a company and create the Concur for small to medium construction businesses.
This is the creation story of OutPave.
This is the creation story of OutPave.
Okay, tell me about the NDP of OutPave. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Okay, tell me about the NDP of OutPave. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
And that's where we started as an MVP. So in any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs picking technology and things of that nature typically there can be some things around how you architect it to move quickly or technical debt or feature cut type decisions like that tell me about some of those you had to make in a little more detail on how you coped with those decisions
And that's where we started as an MVP. So in any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs picking technology and things of that nature typically there can be some things around how you architect it to move quickly or technical debt or feature cut type decisions like that tell me about some of those you had to make in a little more detail on how you coped with those decisions
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back.
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You've got the MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap? How did you decide the next most important thing to build or to address without Pave?
You've got the MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap? How did you decide the next most important thing to build or to address without Pave?
All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
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Or has there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Or has there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, let's move forward then. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with SEMA, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's move forward then. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with SEMA, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be super interesting. I can tell the passion you have for the product you've built and for the folks you're serving. I'm curious what the future looks like. So tell me about the future for SEMA, for the product and for your team.
This will be super interesting. I can tell the passion you have for the product you've built and for the folks you're serving. I'm curious what the future looks like. So tell me about the future for SEMA, for the product and for your team.
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Well, Matt, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? I'm a person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
Well, Matt, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? I'm a person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
Matt Van Italy is the son of a math teacher and a coder, so this explains why he now uses code as data. He's a proud Boy Scout, making it, of course, to Eagle Scout and beyond. After being a management consultant, he found his way to EdTech and fell in love with improving code. But outside of technology, he's married with three amazing kids.
Matt Van Italy is the son of a math teacher and a coder, so this explains why he now uses code as data. He's a proud Boy Scout, making it, of course, to Eagle Scout and beyond. After being a management consultant, he found his way to EdTech and fell in love with improving code. But outside of technology, he's married with three amazing kids.
Last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and they can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and they can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today, and thank you for telling the creation story of SEMA.
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today, and thank you for telling the creation story of SEMA.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He likes to run, play Ultimate Frisbee, and has a wicked cool collection of minor league baseball hats. Sitting in a room with the head of sales, Matt noticed that there were systems like Salesforce that were built to assess the state and future opportunity for business. He then thought, where are these systems for the code itself? This is the creation story of SEMA.
He likes to run, play Ultimate Frisbee, and has a wicked cool collection of minor league baseball hats. Sitting in a room with the head of sales, Matt noticed that there were systems like Salesforce that were built to assess the state and future opportunity for business. He then thought, where are these systems for the code itself? This is the creation story of SEMA.
So tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that first version of the first product. When building any sort of product, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-off, right? And in those eight months, you... You built it and you were doing research and you were trying to figure out, you know, exactly how you wanted to do it.
Let's stay on that first version of the first product. When building any sort of product, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-off, right? And in those eight months, you... You built it and you were doing research and you were trying to figure out, you know, exactly how you wanted to do it.
And you probably had to make those trade-offs as far as approach or technical debt or how you were going to solve the problem. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
And you probably had to make those trade-offs as far as approach or technical debt or how you were going to solve the problem. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
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So you mentioned, you know, multiple MVPs. Tell me about the next MVP then. How did you get there? And then tell me about that inception process there.
So you mentioned, you know, multiple MVPs. Tell me about the next MVP then. How did you get there? And then tell me about that inception process there.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So let's stay on that second MVP then. You've got the MVP done, you're moving faster, you're getting some traction now. Tell me about how you progressed it from that point and matured it.
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I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about deciding or still go about deciding this is the next most important thing to build or to address with SEMA?
I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about deciding or still go about deciding this is the next most important thing to build or to address with SEMA?
It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Codestory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart, and today, how Matt Van Italy built a way to assess your code to improve outcomes for everyone involved.
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So I hear you talking about we, and you've mentioned values and, and things of that nature. I'm curious about how you built your team. How did you go about deciding, you know, what did you look for in these people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you talking about we, and you've mentioned values and, and things of that nature. I'm curious about how you built your team. How did you go about deciding, you know, what did you look for in these people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be really interesting to hear. Tell me about what the future looks like for Savvy Security, the product and for your team.
So this will be really interesting to hear. Tell me about what the future looks like for Savvy Security, the product and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Guy. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Guy. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And not to be a mistake, could have been something that even worked well, but maybe you tweak it a little bit.
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And not to be a mistake, could have been something that even worked well, but maybe you tweak it a little bit.
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Guy, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it and they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Guy, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it and they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Guy, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Savvy Security.
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Guy, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Savvy Security.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Guy Guzner got his first computer when he was five, a Commodore 64, where he learned to program in BASIC. As a teen, he started getting into the internet, back with dial-up and a modem. He hacked into places where he shouldn't be and eventually got into trouble. But now, he has flipped those skills for good and works to protect systems. Outside of tech, he plays tennis and likes to ski.
Guy Guzner got his first computer when he was five, a Commodore 64, where he learned to program in BASIC. As a teen, he started getting into the internet, back with dial-up and a modem. He hacked into places where he shouldn't be and eventually got into trouble. But now, he has flipped those skills for good and works to protect systems. Outside of tech, he plays tennis and likes to ski.
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He also plays guitar, jamming Led Zeppelin and 80s and 90s rock. After selling his past company to Symantec, he stayed on with the corporation to help existing and future companies. What he realized was that people were still misusing their identities. He observed this behavior and decided to take identity to the next level. This is the creation story of Savvy Security.
He also plays guitar, jamming Led Zeppelin and 80s and 90s rock. After selling his past company to Symantec, he stayed on with the corporation to help existing and future companies. What he realized was that people were still misusing their identities. He observed this behavior and decided to take identity to the next level. This is the creation story of Savvy Security.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of Savvy Security. Tell me about, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of Savvy Security. Tell me about, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So then you've got your MVP, you're ready to, you know, to grow it, to deploy it to the world. How have you matured and progressed the product from there? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap?
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So then you've got your MVP, you're ready to, you know, to grow it, to deploy it to the world. How have you matured and progressed the product from there? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap?
How do you go about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Savvy Security?
How do you go about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Savvy Security?
Now, I'm curious about team, right? Team is important to get something done as fantastic as savvy security, something built and something done. So tell me about how you built that team and what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
Now, I'm curious about team, right? Team is important to get something done as fantastic as savvy security, something built and something done. So tell me about how you built that team and what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike.
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. You've kind of already answered this, but I'm going to ask it in a more open-ended way. And maybe you could describe the approach a little bit, but I'm curious around scalability.
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. You've kind of already answered this, but I'm going to ask it in a more open-ended way. And maybe you could describe the approach a little bit, but I'm curious around scalability.
You built this to scale from day one, but how did you go about doing that? And even in that, were there interesting pinch points where you had to fight it as you grew?
You built this to scale from day one, but how did you go about doing that? And even in that, were there interesting pinch points where you had to fight it as you grew?
Given everything you've told me, I'm curious, as you step out of the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Savvy Security in particular, what are you most proud of?
Given everything you've told me, I'm curious, as you step out of the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Savvy Security in particular, what are you most proud of?
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For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Okay, let's flip to scalability. Given supply chain is huge, a big market, yes, but also a big market to support from a technological standpoint. I wonder how you approach scale in the beginning.
So did you build this to scale efficiently from day one? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So did you build this to scale efficiently from day one? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to hear the passion in your voice and the excitement. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
This will be fun to hear the passion in your voice and the excitement. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
Prince Ghosh was born in Bangalore, India, and moved around a lot during his life, to the US, then to Europe, then back to the US, but he spent his formative years in Princeton, New Jersey. He majored in mechanical and aerospace engineering as he wanted to build planes and engines. Eventually, he fell out of love with building planes and became obsessed with supply chain tech.
Prince Ghosh was born in Bangalore, India, and moved around a lot during his life, to the US, then to Europe, then back to the US, but he spent his formative years in Princeton, New Jersey. He majored in mechanical and aerospace engineering as he wanted to build planes and engines. Eventually, he fell out of love with building planes and became obsessed with supply chain tech.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work, Brent? Name a person or many persons or something that you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work, Brent? Name a person or many persons or something that you look up to and why.
Outside of technology, he's a tennis player, occasionally playing basketball, and is an avid reader. He's enthusiastic about tech, the economy, and of course, the supply chain. Prior to his current venture, Prince started Workbench while his co-founders created an agency, which was more like an operations company in a box.
Outside of technology, he's a tennis player, occasionally playing basketball, and is an avid reader. He's enthusiastic about tech, the economy, and of course, the supply chain. Prior to his current venture, Prince started Workbench while his co-founders created an agency, which was more like an operations company in a box.
Okay, so last question, Brent. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, so last question, Brent. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
When they started working together, they realized there was a large opportunity to combine forces and simplify quality control. This is the creation story of Factored Quality.
When they started working together, they realized there was a large opportunity to combine forces and simplify quality control. This is the creation story of Factored Quality.
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Prince, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Factor Quality. Awesome. Thanks so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Prince, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Factor Quality. Awesome. Thanks so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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So tell me about what would be the MVP for factored quality. So it's really interesting with Workbench and then Doris, what did the MVP look like? How long did it take you to bring to life and what sort of tools were you using?
So tell me about what would be the MVP for factored quality. So it's really interesting with Workbench and then Doris, what did the MVP look like? How long did it take you to bring to life and what sort of tools were you using?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike.
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Let's dive into, you know, decisions and trade-offs, right? And you're talking about the decision for what determines our success, you know, and you kind of touched on it at high level, but dive into making that decision. You know, that comes with trade-offs, that comes with acceptance of starting out limitations or things like that.
Let's dive into, you know, decisions and trade-offs, right? And you're talking about the decision for what determines our success, you know, and you kind of touched on it at high level, but dive into making that decision. You know, that comes with trade-offs, that comes with acceptance of starting out limitations or things like that.
And it's kind of unique given, you know, the combination of the two entities there, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs. And I'm really curious about how you coach with those decisions too. Yeah.
And it's kind of unique given, you know, the combination of the two entities there, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs. And I'm really curious about how you coach with those decisions too. Yeah.
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So you have that early version of the product. You figured out what success looks like. You say you're gaining some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product and the company from there. And to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
So you have that early version of the product. You figured out what success looks like. You say you're gaining some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product and the company from there. And to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
How did you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Factor Quality?
How did you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Factor Quality?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Dodo Payments, for the products, for what you offer, and for your team.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Dodo Payments, for the products, for what you offer, and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Ayush. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Ayush. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, last question to you. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, last question to you. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, that's great advice. Well, Yush, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Dodo Payments.
Well, that's great advice. Well, Yush, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Dodo Payments.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting.
Who share what it takes to change an industry.
Who share what it takes to change an industry.
It took many guys to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. A company is its people. The teams help each other achieve more. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
It took many guys to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. A company is its people. The teams help each other achieve more. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how IU Sugarwall is building your gateway to global revenue by simplifying cross-border payments and all things surroundings.
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He graduated with a degree in computer science, but more importantly, he discovered entrepreneurship in college, inspired by his successful classmates. He spent years gathering experience in different startup verticals, including fintech. But outside of tech, he loves to play badminton, cricket, and hang out with his friends.
He graduated with a degree in computer science, but more importantly, he discovered entrepreneurship in college, inspired by his successful classmates. He spent years gathering experience in different startup verticals, including fintech. But outside of tech, he loves to play badminton, cricket, and hang out with his friends.
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He's also big into chess, which he mentioned enjoying chess.com, as well as our recent interview with their CTO, Josh Levine. When Ayush met his now co-founder, they started to think through businesses and how much goes into setting up payments, taxes, et cetera.
He's also big into chess, which he mentioned enjoying chess.com, as well as our recent interview with their CTO, Josh Levine. When Ayush met his now co-founder, they started to think through businesses and how much goes into setting up payments, taxes, et cetera.
They started to dream about building this layer of payments to enable builders to send and receive global payments easily so they can focus on their core competencies. This is the creation story of Dodo Payments.
They started to dream about building this layer of payments to enable builders to send and receive global payments easily so they can focus on their core competencies. This is the creation story of Dodo Payments.
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to build it, how you're going to approach it. It sounds like you got the job done and you raised money, but I'm curious about those decisions and trade-offs in the product itself and how you coped with those decisions.
Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to build it, how you're going to approach it. It sounds like you got the job done and you raised money, but I'm curious about those decisions and trade-offs in the product itself and how you coped with those decisions.
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And I'm curious about roadmap and what process you're following to go through that decision process of like, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Dodo Payments.
And I'm curious about roadmap and what process you're following to go through that decision process of like, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Dodo Payments.
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So then I'm curious about team. You know, I hear you saying we. How did you build that team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
So then I'm curious about team. You know, I hear you saying we. How did you build that team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Axiom, what are you most proud of?
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Axiom, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, how Neil Patel is urging you to stop sampling events, but to cut to the chase and observe them all. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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Okay, this will be fun because I want to hear the passion and your voice and your excitement for what you've built. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
Okay, this will be fun because I want to hear the passion and your voice and your excitement for what you've built. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
Okay, Neil, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, Neil, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Neil, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, Neil, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Neil, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Axiom.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Neil, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Axiom.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Stories. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Stories. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Neil Patel has always been a hacker. Electronics boards, radios, etc. Being interested in how things work, mechanically or digitally. He learned hard work at his father's convenience store while also reading every computer magazine on the rack. He's a pharmacologist by study, but landed in tech because he's passionate about it.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Neil Patel has always been a hacker. Electronics boards, radios, etc. Being interested in how things work, mechanically or digitally. He learned hard work at his father's convenience store while also reading every computer magazine on the rack. He's a pharmacologist by study, but landed in tech because he's passionate about it.
But outside of tech, he loves architecture and design. He also loves to read, in particular sci-fi, and enjoys eating Gujarati food, which is purely vegetarian food with tons of flavors. Prior to 2020, Neil and his team was attempting to build tooling around understanding event data.
But outside of tech, he loves architecture and design. He also loves to read, in particular sci-fi, and enjoys eating Gujarati food, which is purely vegetarian food with tons of flavors. Prior to 2020, Neil and his team was attempting to build tooling around understanding event data.
After a while, they realized that no matter what was done or built on top of an event store, you couldn't realize the value without storing all of the events. So they pivoted and focused on fixing the data store problem first. This is the creation story of Axiom.
After a while, they realized that no matter what was done or built on top of an event store, you couldn't realize the value without storing all of the events. So they pivoted and focused on fixing the data store problem first. This is the creation story of Axiom.
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Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. And that's going to be interesting because you had to go back down to the data store and now you're going back up to the product side here. And so maybe there's multiple or maybe there's the first one you want to start with. You decide and you take me where you want to go. But I'm curious about MVP. What sort of tools you were using to bring it live?
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. And that's going to be interesting because you had to go back down to the data store and now you're going back up to the product side here. And so maybe there's multiple or maybe there's the first one you want to start with. You decide and you take me where you want to go. But I'm curious about MVP. What sort of tools you were using to bring it live?
Excuse me. What kind of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it was taking to build it?
Excuse me. What kind of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it was taking to build it?
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Maybe stick in the second MVP part because I get there was a decision point to go and build the second MVP to focus on the data store to fix the problems there. Tell me about some decisions and tradeoffs you had to make within the second MVP, maybe around like technical debt or approach or things like that and how you cope with those decisions.
Maybe stick in the second MVP part because I get there was a decision point to go and build the second MVP to focus on the data store to fix the problems there. Tell me about some decisions and tradeoffs you had to make within the second MVP, maybe around like technical debt or approach or things like that and how you cope with those decisions.
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The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So then you got the second MVP and let's move forward. How did you progress the product from there? How are you maturing?
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And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap and what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Axiom?
And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap and what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Axiom?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability, and this will be interesting given who you're serving and how opinionated they are. I'm curious about scale. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown? It's definitely been a challenge.
Okay, Sagar. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
Okay, Sagar. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit, Sagar. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit, Sagar. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be super fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for the Speakeasy product and product suites and for your team.
Okay, this will be super fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for the Speakeasy product and product suites and for your team.
He has always been interested in how things work and majored in physics at his university. Towards the end of his studies, he crammed in a ton of computer science classes and fell in love with the craft. He's worked on firmware, enterprise software, and eventually went to LiveRamp, building new experiences for them.
He has always been interested in how things work and majored in physics at his university. Towards the end of his studies, he crammed in a ton of computer science classes and fell in love with the craft. He's worked on firmware, enterprise software, and eventually went to LiveRamp, building new experiences for them.
Let's switch to you, Sagar. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Sagar. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Sagar, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Sagar, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
But outside of tech, he loves pickleball, enjoys growing coffee, and loves reading about historical events. In the past, Sagar and his team took on an API initiative to invest in internal API development experience. Through this project, he spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this happen.
But outside of tech, he loves pickleball, enjoys growing coffee, and loves reading about historical events. In the past, Sagar and his team took on an API initiative to invest in internal API development experience. Through this project, he spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this happen.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sagar, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Speakeasy.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sagar, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Speakeasy.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He immediately saw the need across the industry with the absence of time and money to fill the need. He decided to take it on and start a company. This is the creation story of Speakeasy.
He immediately saw the need across the industry with the absence of time and money to fill the need. He decided to take it on and start a company. This is the creation story of Speakeasy.
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting to know where you start. Maybe it's a little bit, you know, in when you were spending that time and thought prior to starting Speakeasy or it could be started at the Speakeasy point. You tell me about the MVP, that first version of the product you built, how long it took to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting to know where you start. Maybe it's a little bit, you know, in when you were spending that time and thought prior to starting Speakeasy or it could be started at the Speakeasy point. You tell me about the MVP, that first version of the product you built, how long it took to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that for a minute. And you're kind of touching on some of these at a high level, but tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in those early days with that MVP. And it could be technical debt or feature approach, things like that. Dive into some of those and specifically how you coped with them.
Let's stay on that for a minute. And you're kind of touching on some of these at a high level, but tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in those early days with that MVP. And it could be technical debt or feature approach, things like that. Dive into some of those and specifically how you coped with them.
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Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination.
Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Okay. So you've got the MVP and it's working. You're getting some traction. I'm curious about how you progress the product from there and matured it. I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Okay. So you've got the MVP and it's working. You're getting some traction. I'm curious about how you progress the product from there and matured it. I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
How do you, how did you go about building a roadmap and how do you do that today? And what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with speakeasy.
How do you, how did you go about building a roadmap and how do you do that today? And what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with speakeasy.
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So I'm curious about team. How do you go about building your team? How did you go about building your team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
So I'm curious about team. How do you go about building your team? How did you go about building your team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
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Tell me about how you went about building your team. Team is absolutely critical to make anything happen that's great in this world, especially something like Minotaur. Tell me about how you built that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Tell me about how you went about building your team. Team is absolutely critical to make anything happen that's great in this world, especially something like Minotaur. Tell me about how you built that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, how Sebastian Raffaele is enabling you to engineer your own bots. to automate your trades. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, how Sebastian Raffaele is enabling you to engineer your own bots. to automate your trades. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be really interesting given what you've built and where you're going, how the technological speed of the product can contribute to the success, right? So tell me about scalability.
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Have you had any interesting areas where you've hit a wall and you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Have you had any interesting areas where you've hit a wall and you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Minotaur, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Minotaur, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. And you've already admitted to making mistakes. But I'm curious if there is one you want to highlight and how specifically you responded, you and the team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. And you've already admitted to making mistakes. But I'm curious if there is one you want to highlight and how specifically you responded, you and the team responded to it.
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Okay, Sebastian, this will be fun to hear. I'm already hearing the passion in your voice for what you've built. I'm curious what the future holds. Tell me about the future for the product and for your team.
Okay, Sebastian, this will be fun to hear. I'm already hearing the passion in your voice for what you've built. I'm curious what the future holds. Tell me about the future for the product and for your team.
He had a crazy life growing up in social housing, having to find his way. He found inspiration from his family members who always pushed him to follow his passions. He left high school early and jumped straight away into the workforce. In 2014, he was introduced to crypto and got hooked. But outside of tech and finance, he's always been into the creative spaces, specifically music.
He had a crazy life growing up in social housing, having to find his way. He found inspiration from his family members who always pushed him to follow his passions. He left high school early and jumped straight away into the workforce. In 2014, he was introduced to crypto and got hooked. But outside of tech and finance, he's always been into the creative spaces, specifically music.
He likes to spend time with his fiancee, likes trying new foods, and tries to surround himself with high-quality people. Sebastian realized that the manual processes for a trader are overwhelming, along with making it difficult to be consistent. And alongside this, he saw the cycle of manual traders returning the money they made to the market. Sort of like the house always wins in casinos.
He likes to spend time with his fiancee, likes trying new foods, and tries to surround himself with high-quality people. Sebastian realized that the manual processes for a trader are overwhelming, along with making it difficult to be consistent. And alongside this, he saw the cycle of manual traders returning the money they made to the market. Sort of like the house always wins in casinos.
So last question, Sebastian. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. I'm curious what advice you'd give that person having gone down this road a bit.
So last question, Sebastian. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. I'm curious what advice you'd give that person having gone down this road a bit.
And maybe it's similar to what you just said and how Jim inspires you. But I'm curious if there's advice you'd give them.
And maybe it's similar to what you just said and how Jim inspires you. But I'm curious if there's advice you'd give them.
And that's my advice for anyone who wants to get started. That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Sebastian, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Minotaur. Awesome. Thank you so much, Noah. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
And that's my advice for anyone who wants to get started. That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Sebastian, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Minotaur. Awesome. Thank you so much, Noah. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
He wanted to build something to close the gap for these traders and solve these problems. This is the creation story of Minotaur Trading Systems.
He wanted to build something to close the gap for these traders and solve these problems. This is the creation story of Minotaur Trading Systems.
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let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product, tell me how you built it, you know, what sort of tools you were using and how long it took you to bring it to life.
let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product, tell me how you built it, you know, what sort of tools you were using and how long it took you to bring it to life.
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
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Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
Visit speakeasy.com slash code story to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Okay, so you've got the MVP, you've got that first systems that buys and trades, you've linked all the pieces together and it's working. How did you progress it from there and mature it?
Visit speakeasy.com slash code story to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Okay, so you've got the MVP, you've got that first systems that buys and trades, you've linked all the pieces together and it's working. How did you progress it from there and mature it?
I think maybe early days and now how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the most important thing to address or to build with Minotaur.
I think maybe early days and now how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the most important thing to address or to build with Minotaur.
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Okay, this will be interesting given what you've built. And I'm sure there's interesting stories here. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, this will be interesting given what you've built. And I'm sure there's interesting stories here. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on a balcony and you look across all that you've built with Traceable, what are you most proud of?
As you step out on a balcony and you look across all that you've built with Traceable, what are you most proud of?
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, so what's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Okay, so what's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Let's switch to you, Sanjay. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Sanjay. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lab Park. And today, Hasanji Negarov built one platform to secure every API through contextual security and the traceable advantage. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lab Park. And today, Hasanji Negarov built one platform to secure every API through contextual security and the traceable advantage. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sanjay, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Traceable.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sanjay, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Traceable.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery.
ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story.
ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story.
Sanjay Nagaraj started his journey in India, where he was born and raised. His earliest influences started at home, as his father taught him honesty and integrity, and his mother heavily influenced his growth as an individual.
Sanjay Nagaraj started his journey in India, where he was born and raised. His earliest influences started at home, as his father taught him honesty and integrity, and his mother heavily influenced his growth as an individual.
Though he spends most of his time in tech, any time outside of work is dedicated to time with family, where he gets to see the world through his wife and kids, along with fueling his passion for singing and following his favorite sports team. For Sanjay, one thing that was clear to him was that application builders exposing APIs are responsible for making sure those APIs are secure.
Though he spends most of his time in tech, any time outside of work is dedicated to time with family, where he gets to see the world through his wife and kids, along with fueling his passion for singing and following his favorite sports team. For Sanjay, one thing that was clear to him was that application builders exposing APIs are responsible for making sure those APIs are secure.
Prior to his current venture, he and his co-founder built AppDynamics, and they saw the growth of APIs firsthand. As such, they also saw that businesses were looking for products to help them understand APIs and protect them in real time. This is the creation story of Traceable.
Prior to his current venture, he and his co-founder built AppDynamics, and they saw the growth of APIs firsthand. As such, they also saw that businesses were looking for products to help them understand APIs and protect them in real time. This is the creation story of Traceable.
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Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and what sort of criteria you were using to decide the next most important thing to build or to address with Traceable.
How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and what sort of criteria you were using to decide the next most important thing to build or to address with Traceable.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. I'm curious about scalability.
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And this will be super interesting because there's scalability of the technology you're using internally, right, to enable the operation to run and to enable your team to work better. But there's also scalability of people, which is hard. So I'm curious if there have been interesting areas where you've had to fight scalability as you've grown.
And this will be super interesting because there's scalability of the technology you're using internally, right, to enable the operation to run and to enable your team to work better. But there's also scalability of people, which is hard. So I'm curious if there have been interesting areas where you've had to fight scalability as you've grown.
I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Adam Pisk is enabling you to outsource anything, making it easy for you to distribute your workforce. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences.
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look at all that you've built with Bruntworks specifically, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look at all that you've built with Bruntworks specifically, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script then a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script then a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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What does the future look like for Bruntwork, for what you offer and for your team?
What does the future look like for Bruntwork, for what you offer and for your team?
Curious where it's going to go myself. Let's switch to you, Adam. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Curious where it's going to go myself. Let's switch to you, Adam. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Adam, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, Adam, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I appreciate that answer. That's fantastic advice. I couldn't agree more. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today and thank you for telling the creation story of Bruntwork.
I appreciate that answer. That's fantastic advice. I couldn't agree more. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today and thank you for telling the creation story of Bruntwork.
Thanks very much, Noah. I enjoyed it. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He enjoys good wine, good steak, and good people, and the best place you can get a steak? In his backyard on his pit. But outside of this, as he puts it, he is unfortunately one of those people that really enjoys their work, i.e. considers it a hobby. Adam started his outsourcing journey in 2001, specifically in the manufacturing industry.
He enjoys good wine, good steak, and good people, and the best place you can get a steak? In his backyard on his pit. But outside of this, as he puts it, he is unfortunately one of those people that really enjoys their work, i.e. considers it a hobby. Adam started his outsourcing journey in 2001, specifically in the manufacturing industry.
He couldn't get the engineers he needed and built an offshore engineering team. And once he got that working, he wondered what else he could outsource. Eventually, he offshored operations for a different company and noticed all metrics improved. Again, realizing there's something to this. This is the creation story of Brunt Work.
He couldn't get the engineers he needed and built an offshore engineering team. And once he got that working, he wondered what else he could outsource. Eventually, he offshored operations for a different company and noticed all metrics improved. Again, realizing there's something to this. This is the creation story of Brunt Work.
Okay, so this will be interesting where you start. I'm curious about what you would consider, you know, the MVP for Brent work, right? So there is not exactly a like digital product or something here.
Okay, so this will be interesting where you start. I'm curious about what you would consider, you know, the MVP for Brent work, right? So there is not exactly a like digital product or something here.
Maybe there's some technology involved in places, but the MVP could have been that, you know, when you were outsourcing folks for different companies and improving their operations, or it could have been after wherever you want to take it. But tell me about the MVP, how long did it take to create and bring it to life? And what sort of tools were you using?
Maybe there's some technology involved in places, but the MVP could have been that, you know, when you were outsourcing folks for different companies and improving their operations, or it could have been after wherever you want to take it. But tell me about the MVP, how long did it take to create and bring it to life? And what sort of tools were you using?
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Maybe from the early days to now, I'm curious around how you have matured Bruntwork and progress what you offer. This might be an increase in technology, might be an increase in scale or size or how you find those best people. But I'm curious about kind of roadmap, right?
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Maybe from the early days to now, I'm curious around how you have matured Bruntwork and progress what you offer. This might be an increase in technology, might be an increase in scale or size or how you find those best people. But I'm curious about kind of roadmap, right?
How do you go about deciding the next most important thing to do, to address, to build with Bruntwork?
How do you go about deciding the next most important thing to do, to address, to build with Bruntwork?
So this will be an interesting question because you're finding the best people, but there's also, there's people that are the folks that are being outsourced to, but there's also your team. So I'm curious about both those things. How did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people that, you know, indicated that they were the winning horses to join you?
So this will be an interesting question because you're finding the best people, but there's also, there's people that are the folks that are being outsourced to, but there's also your team. So I'm curious about both those things. How did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people that, you know, indicated that they were the winning horses to join you?
And I think also, interestingly, I'd be curious about how you vet the people that you outsource to. How do you find the best people?
And I think also, interestingly, I'd be curious about how you vet the people that you outsource to. How do you find the best people?
All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike. Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory.
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Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
That all makes sense to me, Richard. And I really appreciate you being on the show and explaining this because the sprawl is real.
That all makes sense to me, Richard. And I really appreciate you being on the show and explaining this because the sprawl is real.
The problem with API sprawl is showing up out in the wild and the big guys and the three-step process you're describing of admitting you have a problem, understanding that problem, and finding the right tool there to really help you with the continuous discovery documentation, automated monitoring, and taking you forward towards the next step is really, really critical.
The problem with API sprawl is showing up out in the wild and the big guys and the three-step process you're describing of admitting you have a problem, understanding that problem, and finding the right tool there to really help you with the continuous discovery documentation, automated monitoring, and taking you forward towards the next step is really, really critical.
So Richard, I appreciate you being on the show today. No, I had a blast. Truly enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. And this concludes The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Richard Byrd. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai.
So Richard, I appreciate you being on the show today. No, I had a blast. Truly enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. And this concludes The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Richard Byrd. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai.
And thanks again for listening.
And thanks again for listening.
Well, awesome. Let's dive into our topic today. Again, the title is The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers. So what is API Sprawl and why is it such a significant security challenge for organizations?
Well, awesome. Let's dive into our topic today. Again, the title is The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers. So what is API Sprawl and why is it such a significant security challenge for organizations?
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Today's episode is titled The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Traceable's Chief Security Officer, Richard Byrd.
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Today's episode is titled The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Traceable's Chief Security Officer, Richard Byrd.
So that's a large number of attacks of being exploited by these businesses in the last couple of years. And it makes sense what you're saying about sprawl and how sprawl isn't necessarily a technology problem. It's an operations problem. So in that operation, how do APIs become part of this sprawl?
So that's a large number of attacks of being exploited by these businesses in the last couple of years. And it makes sense what you're saying about sprawl and how sprawl isn't necessarily a technology problem. It's an operations problem. So in that operation, how do APIs become part of this sprawl?
And I think you touched on it at a high level, but I'm curious, why do security teams often lose track of these APIs?
And I think you touched on it at a high level, but I'm curious, why do security teams often lose track of these APIs?
As organizations scale and evolve, so does the complexity of their APIs. The uncontrolled expansion of APIs creates a tangled web where vulnerabilities linger in the shadows. These unseen APIs become creepy crawlers of your digital infrastructure, creeping through your systems and posing security risks.
As organizations scale and evolve, so does the complexity of their APIs. The uncontrolled expansion of APIs creates a tangled web where vulnerabilities linger in the shadows. These unseen APIs become creepy crawlers of your digital infrastructure, creeping through your systems and posing security risks.
Sure. It's fascinating that there's so many APIs out there. It's the bedrock of applications, yet there's a small percentage of people that are managing them correctly. You said a term earlier, the creepy crawlers, right? And sticking with the theme, what are they within an API ecosystem and how do they contribute to security blind spots?
Sure. It's fascinating that there's so many APIs out there. It's the bedrock of applications, yet there's a small percentage of people that are managing them correctly. You said a term earlier, the creepy crawlers, right? And sticking with the theme, what are they within an API ecosystem and how do they contribute to security blind spots?
That's clear. And I see the problem and how that can be obviously a major problem. And you live this space on a day-to-day basis. Can you share an example of an incident where sprawl contributed to a major breach or to a vulnerability?
That's clear. And I see the problem and how that can be obviously a major problem. And you live this space on a day-to-day basis. Can you share an example of an incident where sprawl contributed to a major breach or to a vulnerability?
Richard will discuss how unmanaged and undocumented APIs contribute to blind spots, the risks they create for organizations, and the best strategies for securing a sprawling ecosystem. Well, Richard, thank you for being on the show today. It's great to be here.
Richard will discuss how unmanaged and undocumented APIs contribute to blind spots, the risks they create for organizations, and the best strategies for securing a sprawling ecosystem. Well, Richard, thank you for being on the show today. It's great to be here.
Before we jump into our topic for today, which is the haunted web, navigating API sprawl and creepy crawlers, tell me and my audience a little bit more about you.
Before we jump into our topic for today, which is the haunted web, navigating API sprawl and creepy crawlers, tell me and my audience a little bit more about you.
Okay, so clearly this is a problem. It's happening. We see it happening for the big players in the space. What can we do about it? What sort of strategies or tools can organizations use to manage and secure their API ecosystems as they grow and scale? How can they keep up with this?
Okay, so clearly this is a problem. It's happening. We see it happening for the big players in the space. What can we do about it? What sort of strategies or tools can organizations use to manage and secure their API ecosystems as they grow and scale? How can they keep up with this?
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Let's talk about scalability. There's a lot of connection points and data and things like that behind FreeScout, I would assume. Have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight the scalability of your platform as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Freeze Crowd, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Freeze Crowd, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, the company and for your team.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, the company and for your team.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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So you're getting on a plane. You're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
So you're getting on a plane. You're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He's always been a gadget and tech enthusiast, growing up curious. At a young age, he could be found drawing, creating new things, and tinkering with virtual headsets. But outside of tech, he's into juggling, playing, and watching basketball. He's based in New York and has been a vegetarian since he was a kid. When he went off to college, Eric had with him picture books.
He's always been a gadget and tech enthusiast, growing up curious. At a young age, he could be found drawing, creating new things, and tinkering with virtual headsets. But outside of tech, he's into juggling, playing, and watching basketball. He's based in New York and has been a vegetarian since he was a kid. When he went off to college, Eric had with him picture books.
He noticed that there were key words next to each person in the book, which indicated their interests. He thought, would it be interesting if we could use this information to connect people within school? This is the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
He noticed that there were key words next to each person in the book, which indicated their interests. He thought, would it be interesting if we could use this information to connect people within school? This is the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
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Let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
In that MVP, you told me you had to go back and kind of rebuild it. Tell me about the decision point because that's a hard decision to make, right? You got to work through decisions and trade-offs when you're building something or when you decide to have to go back and redo it. Tell me about those decision points and how you cope with those decisions.
In that MVP, you told me you had to go back and kind of rebuild it. Tell me about the decision point because that's a hard decision to make, right? You got to work through decisions and trade-offs when you're building something or when you decide to have to go back and redo it. Tell me about those decision points and how you cope with those decisions.
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And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what we're looking for is how do you build your roadmap? How do you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with FreezeCrowd?
And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what we're looking for is how do you build your roadmap? How do you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with FreezeCrowd?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Meister, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Meister, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun. Let's dig into the future. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
This will be fun. Let's dig into the future. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
give me advice when i was growing up so yeah it's definitely my family okay berkey last question so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing they're jazzed about it they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane what advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit
give me advice when i was growing up so yeah it's definitely my family okay berkey last question so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing they're jazzed about it they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane what advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit
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Berkay Atatürk is originally from Turkey, but now lives in Germany. He loves to travel, and living in Germany allows him to be close to family, but enables him to live a nomadic life. He split his college time in Turkey and America, and while he was stateside, he discovered hackathons, which is the origin spot for his current venture.
Berkay Atatürk is originally from Turkey, but now lives in Germany. He loves to travel, and living in Germany allows him to be close to family, but enables him to live a nomadic life. He split his college time in Turkey and America, and while he was stateside, he discovered hackathons, which is the origin spot for his current venture.
Outside of tech, he played water polo for 10 years and enjoys playing the guitar. He finds inspiration in bands like Pearl Jam, who's coming to Europe soon, which Berkay is excited about. After getting into hackathons, Berkay and his co-founder built a prototype of their current company solution, an automatic transcription solution for voiceovers.
Outside of tech, he played water polo for 10 years and enjoys playing the guitar. He finds inspiration in bands like Pearl Jam, who's coming to Europe soon, which Berkay is excited about. After getting into hackathons, Berkay and his co-founder built a prototype of their current company solution, an automatic transcription solution for voiceovers.
Once they graduated, they decided to start a company and move into subtitles and beyond. This is the creation story of Maestra. Maestra.
Once they graduated, they decided to start a company and move into subtitles and beyond. This is the creation story of Maestra. Maestra.
So tell me about what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's that hackathon version or maybe it's post that. You decide where you want to start. But tell me about the MVP. What sort of tools were you using to bring it to life and how long it took you to build?
So tell me about what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's that hackathon version or maybe it's post that. You decide where you want to start. But tell me about the MVP. What sort of tools were you using to bring it to life and how long it took you to build?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around, you know, what you're going to choose first. And you mentioned one earlier, maybe dive into that one or pick one that you really had to work through and how you cope with the decisions that you made.
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around, you know, what you're going to choose first. And you mentioned one earlier, maybe dive into that one or pick one that you really had to work through and how you cope with the decisions that you made.
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I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you built your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Maestro.
I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you built your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Maestro.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was at the gate. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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But scaling is important for in many different aspects, right? They're scaling the business, they're scaling the technology, they're scaling your team. How do you think about scale? And even in the early days now, have there been any areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
But scaling is important for in many different aspects, right? They're scaling the business, they're scaling the technology, they're scaling your team. How do you think about scale? And even in the early days now, have there been any areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so this is for, I'll say this is for Moolah and for your aviation company as well. As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so this is for, I'll say this is for Moolah and for your aviation company as well. As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Jason Shepard is building smart tools so you can unlock the power of your paycheck and its moolah. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences.
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Let's flip the script a little bit and I want to stick with moolah. Tell me about a mistake you've made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit and I want to stick with moolah. Tell me about a mistake you've made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be exciting. It's early days, so I know there's a lot here for you. Tell me about the future for Moolah. What does it look like for the product and for your team?
So this will be exciting. It's early days, so I know there's a lot here for you. Tell me about the future for Moolah. What does it look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Jason Shappard grew up in an entrepreneurial family. His mom and dad were always working together, and Jason's first job was working for his parents' pest control company, where he crafted his understanding of what success looked like.
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Okay, Jason, I have one more question for you. You're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, Jason, I have one more question for you. You're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Maybe it reflects something you just mentioned, but I'm curious where you'll take it.
Maybe it reflects something you just mentioned, but I'm curious where you'll take it.
Couldn't agree more with that. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Moolah.
Couldn't agree more with that. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Moolah.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Outside of tech and professional life, he's married with three kids and is very into all of their sports. Fun fact, his kids enjoy doing their homeschooling in the office with their dad, listening to his calls and asking big questions. So business is actually what they do for fun together. For 16 years, Jason grew and ran a business in aviation.
Outside of tech and professional life, he's married with three kids and is very into all of their sports. Fun fact, his kids enjoy doing their homeschooling in the office with their dad, listening to his calls and asking big questions. So business is actually what they do for fun together. For 16 years, Jason grew and ran a business in aviation.
After a successful exit, he and his wife Magda were considering what to do next. She quickly remembered all of the things Jason did behind the scenes to set up their personal finances for success in the midst of a chaotic startup life. This is the creation story of Moolah.
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So tell me about Moolah's MVP. So the first version of the product you're building, how long is it taking you to build it has taken you to build and what sort of tools are using to bring it to life?
So tell me about Moolah's MVP. So the first version of the product you're building, how long is it taking you to build it has taken you to build and what sort of tools are using to bring it to life?
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And, you know, there's a lot more sides that you want to release. I'm curious about how you build your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Moolah?
And, you know, there's a lot more sides that you want to release. I'm curious about how you build your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Moolah?
I'm curious about team. How would you go about building your team? I know it's early days. Maybe the team is a partner right now, or maybe there are team members. I'm curious about how you went about deciding or choosing both of those things.
I'm curious about team. How would you go about building your team? I know it's early days. Maybe the team is a partner right now, or maybe there are team members. I'm curious about how you went about deciding or choosing both of those things.
And if the team is still being formed or is in the future, how are you going to build that team and what you're going to look for in those people to indicate they're winning horses?
And if the team is still being formed or is in the future, how are you going to build that team and what you're going to look for in those people to indicate they're winning horses?
But like I said, having people that are a lot smarter than me, tech went from being one of the things where I was constantly banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what was happening to literally none of that where the stress has just melted away because I know that our tech team is a lot smarter than Stephanie and I. They know how to handle anything that goes wrong.
But like I said, having people that are a lot smarter than me, tech went from being one of the things where I was constantly banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what was happening to literally none of that where the stress has just melted away because I know that our tech team is a lot smarter than Stephanie and I. They know how to handle anything that goes wrong.
We're also working with a new marketing group as well. And they're really helping us in terms of creating that awareness in the US. But I think with anything, you want to work with people who share a vision, have similar goals in mind, and really just are there to help evolve what you're already doing.
We're also working with a new marketing group as well. And they're really helping us in terms of creating that awareness in the US. But I think with anything, you want to work with people who share a vision, have similar goals in mind, and really just are there to help evolve what you're already doing.
And like I said, I think for me, it's really important to work with people that are, A, just as passionate as I am and have the same vision in mind, but are also experts in what they do. And so we're fortunate now that we have such a wonderful team that we work with, so much great help and support.
And like I said, I think for me, it's really important to work with people that are, A, just as passionate as I am and have the same vision in mind, but are also experts in what they do. And so we're fortunate now that we have such a wonderful team that we work with, so much great help and support.
And quite honestly, I know I could speak on behalf of Stephanie for this as well, but we're really grateful because it's really helped us focus on other elements of the business. Whereas before we were doing everything.
And quite honestly, I know I could speak on behalf of Stephanie for this as well, but we're really grateful because it's really helped us focus on other elements of the business. Whereas before we were doing everything.
everything and really trying to juggle everything just the two of us now we can really focus on growing the business and we know that we have support behind us that if we need it and they're doing what they're supposed to do so it's been awesome but like anything there's going to be growing pains but we can deal with the growing pains as long as the people that we work with share the same visions and goals in mind and we're fortunate that we have such a great team
everything and really trying to juggle everything just the two of us now we can really focus on growing the business and we know that we have support behind us that if we need it and they're doing what they're supposed to do so it's been awesome but like anything there's going to be growing pains but we can deal with the growing pains as long as the people that we work with share the same visions and goals in mind and we're fortunate that we have such a great team
Oh, thank you. I'm excited to be here.
Oh, thank you. I'm excited to be here.
I think one story that I always think about was the very first person who got hired through Swab. So this would have been a few years ago. But Stephanie and I in the early days, and this was pre-COVID, would go into schools and we'd do a lot of presentations and speak to a lot of young people.
I think one story that I always think about was the very first person who got hired through Swab. So this would have been a few years ago. But Stephanie and I in the early days, and this was pre-COVID, would go into schools and we'd do a lot of presentations and speak to a lot of young people.
I was this high school student and they came up to us, had some questions, said they were looking for their first ever job. Like I said, a high school student. So it's about that time where you should be looking for a part-time job. This person took our information and it was funny. We found out literally like, I think a week or two later that they had applied to a job and they got hired.
I was this high school student and they came up to us, had some questions, said they were looking for their first ever job. Like I said, a high school student. So it's about that time where you should be looking for a part-time job. This person took our information and it was funny. We found out literally like, I think a week or two later that they had applied to a job and they got hired.
Again, this was really early on. So it was, you know, we did some research and found that it was the very first ever candidate to get hired through Swab. So that was just a really cool moment. And that's something that I often think about because now there have been many people who have been hired and that's amazing. That's why we started Swab. That was the goal was to help people.
Again, this was really early on. So it was, you know, we did some research and found that it was the very first ever candidate to get hired through Swab. So that was just a really cool moment. And that's something that I often think about because now there have been many people who have been hired and that's amazing. That's why we started Swab. That was the goal was to help people.
And that's always been the goal. But I think I always go back to that very first success story. And I think even that knowing that somebody was able to find employment, especially in the early days where there were a lot of ups and there were also but there was also a lot of downs. So just knowing that it actually had helped somebody, it was such a gratifying moment.
And that's always been the goal. But I think I always go back to that very first success story. And I think even that knowing that somebody was able to find employment, especially in the early days where there were a lot of ups and there were also but there was also a lot of downs. So just knowing that it actually had helped somebody, it was such a gratifying moment.
You know, we still get excited when we hear about candidates finding jobs through SWAB.
You know, we still get excited when we hear about candidates finding jobs through SWAB.
On the employer side, we built that part of the platform with employer feedback. Like we would go and meet with employers and really just try and get as much information as possible, learn things, what they like about what they're currently using, what they don't like, what they would like to see. And it was something where a lot of employers really do struggle with bringing in candidates.
On the employer side, we built that part of the platform with employer feedback. Like we would go and meet with employers and really just try and get as much information as possible, learn things, what they like about what they're currently using, what they don't like, what they would like to see. And it was something where a lot of employers really do struggle with bringing in candidates.
Yeah, so I would say I'm a pretty regular guy. I love sports, love music, spending time with family and friends. Who doesn't? Sports is my passion. I'm a big hockey fan, love to play hockey. That's probably the number one thing that I do when I'm looking to just relieve some stress. Play guitar, that's another thing as well that I love to do in my spare time. I'm a new father.
Yeah, so I would say I'm a pretty regular guy. I love sports, love music, spending time with family and friends. Who doesn't? Sports is my passion. I'm a big hockey fan, love to play hockey. That's probably the number one thing that I do when I'm looking to just relieve some stress. Play guitar, that's another thing as well that I love to do in my spare time. I'm a new father.
One of the things that we've done is really made sure that we listen to the pain points that they would identify and really be in a position where we could solve those pain points. For example, one of the things we would always hear from employers is they would post their job on other sites and they were getting candidates who were from out of town or out of the country and they weren't local.
One of the things that we've done is really made sure that we listen to the pain points that they would identify and really be in a position where we could solve those pain points. For example, one of the things we would always hear from employers is they would post their job on other sites and they were getting candidates who were from out of town or out of the country and they weren't local.
And that was a big issue for a lot of these employers because they're spending money on those candidates and it's not doing them any good. And so there was one story of a company in the US. It was a small automotive company. They were really struggling to find candidates. They were posting their jobs on other platforms and came across Swab, posted their job.
And that was a big issue for a lot of these employers because they're spending money on those candidates and it's not doing them any good. And so there was one story of a company in the US. It was a small automotive company. They were really struggling to find candidates. They were posting their jobs on other platforms and came across Swab, posted their job.
We were there to support them, made sure everything was OK. And literally within two days, they made a hire. So they within two days of posting, they received candidates and made a hire. So. As much as we get excited about candidates who find jobs through Swab, we also get excited, obviously, on the employer side when they're able to find those candidates and it actually works for them.
We were there to support them, made sure everything was OK. And literally within two days, they made a hire. So they within two days of posting, they received candidates and made a hire. So. As much as we get excited about candidates who find jobs through Swab, we also get excited, obviously, on the employer side when they're able to find those candidates and it actually works for them.
Because, again, we built the product for people who need the jobs, but the employers who are posting the jobs, there's no jobs without them. We really made sure that we listened to their feedback and took it seriously as well. And like I said, when somebody is able to find candidates and hire someone within two days, that seems pretty good to me.
Because, again, we built the product for people who need the jobs, but the employers who are posting the jobs, there's no jobs without them. We really made sure that we listened to their feedback and took it seriously as well. And like I said, when somebody is able to find candidates and hire someone within two days, that seems pretty good to me.
It's never not evolving. And whenever we look at the roadmap, it's just, is it ever done? But so there's a lot of things that we're working on. Like I said, new features that we're going to introduce in the app, things that you can unlock, different educational content, even on the employer side, we're completely revamping the employer sections.
It's never not evolving. And whenever we look at the roadmap, it's just, is it ever done? But so there's a lot of things that we're working on. Like I said, new features that we're going to introduce in the app, things that you can unlock, different educational content, even on the employer side, we're completely revamping the employer sections.
We're actually changing it where, because prior it used to be where employers would post their jobs and it would be a monthly or annual subscription. We're scrapping that. So it's going to be even easier on the employer side. It's going to be a freemium model. They can go and post their jobs for free, but if they want to boost their posting and make it more visible, they can have the option.
We're actually changing it where, because prior it used to be where employers would post their jobs and it would be a monthly or annual subscription. We're scrapping that. So it's going to be even easier on the employer side. It's going to be a freemium model. They can go and post their jobs for free, but if they want to boost their posting and make it more visible, they can have the option.
There are a ton of things that we're working on right now. We even did a website revamp, but I think ultimately the biggest thing Like I said, was all of the features that we can introduce are going to be awesome, but they don't mean anything if there's no jobs.
There are a ton of things that we're working on right now. We even did a website revamp, but I think ultimately the biggest thing Like I said, was all of the features that we can introduce are going to be awesome, but they don't mean anything if there's no jobs.
And so that's the biggest thing, too, is we're just continuing to work with new partners and really make sure that we're growing across North America and have more and more opportunities available each day.
And so that's the biggest thing, too, is we're just continuing to work with new partners and really make sure that we're growing across North America and have more and more opportunities available each day.
For sure. If you're looking for a job, you can download Swab free in the App Store or Google Play. And you can also use our website to look for jobs as well. And if you're an employer who's looking to post and hire candidates, you can go to swabapp.com to get started.
For sure. If you're looking for a job, you can download Swab free in the App Store or Google Play. And you can also use our website to look for jobs as well. And if you're an employer who's looking to post and hire candidates, you can go to swabapp.com to get started.
Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
My son just turned one, so... That's been an interesting year this past year. I think that I wear my heart on my sleeve. You could probably tell just based on being around me how I am or what kind of a mood I'm in. And that's yeah, that's me.
My son just turned one, so... That's been an interesting year this past year. I think that I wear my heart on my sleeve. You could probably tell just based on being around me how I am or what kind of a mood I'm in. And that's yeah, that's me.
Yeah, so Swab app is a job app that we've designed to really help make the job search easy. What inspired the idea for Swab was really my own frustration while looking for jobs. I'm sure Stephanie told you this the last time when she was speaking with you, but I began looking for jobs when I was working in the marketing industry.
Yeah, so Swab app is a job app that we've designed to really help make the job search easy. What inspired the idea for Swab was really my own frustration while looking for jobs. I'm sure Stephanie told you this the last time when she was speaking with you, but I began looking for jobs when I was working in the marketing industry.
I was working for an agency, began getting frustrated there, and I started to look for new opportunities. And I honestly just remembered thinking to myself, there needs to be an easier way to do this. It was so unbelievably frustrating. And I'll admit at the time I was using Tinder and that's what inspired the idea.
I was working for an agency, began getting frustrated there, and I started to look for new opportunities. And I honestly just remembered thinking to myself, there needs to be an easier way to do this. It was so unbelievably frustrating. And I'll admit at the time I was using Tinder and that's what inspired the idea.
So what Swab is, like I said, it's a job app that we've created to really simplify the job search. So if you think Tinder, but for jobs, so you put in your location, select what you're looking for. So whether it's part time, full time industries that you want to look at. And then boom, you're on your way. And it's really straightforward.
So what Swab is, like I said, it's a job app that we've created to really simplify the job search. So if you think Tinder, but for jobs, so you put in your location, select what you're looking for. So whether it's part time, full time industries that you want to look at. And then boom, you're on your way. And it's really straightforward.
So like Tinder, if you don't want to apply to a job, swipe left. If you do want to apply, swipe right. And it's the same on the desktop as well. So we're really just trying to make that job search easy and convenient and really making sure that it isn't a difficult process.
So like Tinder, if you don't want to apply to a job, swipe left. If you do want to apply, swipe right. And it's the same on the desktop as well. So we're really just trying to make that job search easy and convenient and really making sure that it isn't a difficult process.
And if you are looking for a job, that it is something that's straightforward and easy to do and not going to take so much time in doing so.
And if you are looking for a job, that it is something that's straightforward and easy to do and not going to take so much time in doing so.
Lots has changed since you spoke with Stephanie. One of the biggest things that we've done recently is really commit ourselves into the U.S. We've been really focused in the United States now, I'd say for the better part of a year and really trying to grow our presence there. So we're still helping companies across Canada and people who are looking for jobs in Canada.
Lots has changed since you spoke with Stephanie. One of the biggest things that we've done recently is really commit ourselves into the U.S. We've been really focused in the United States now, I'd say for the better part of a year and really trying to grow our presence there. So we're still helping companies across Canada and people who are looking for jobs in Canada.
We're still supporting all of those people. But just the U.S. is really an area that we wanted to focus on pre-COVID. And then COVID happened. And that, I think, was the real push that we needed.
We're still supporting all of those people. But just the U.S. is really an area that we wanted to focus on pre-COVID. And then COVID happened. And that, I think, was the real push that we needed.
So right now there's over seven and a half million jobs across the platform in North America, which we're really excited about, because one of the things that one of the one of the bits of feedback or criticism that we used to hear was really cool app, not a lot of jobs in certain areas where big cities like Toronto or Chicago or New York would be loaded with jobs.
So right now there's over seven and a half million jobs across the platform in North America, which we're really excited about, because one of the things that one of the one of the bits of feedback or criticism that we used to hear was really cool app, not a lot of jobs in certain areas where big cities like Toronto or Chicago or New York would be loaded with jobs.
It was the smaller towns that maybe didn't have a bunch. And now that there are seven and a half million jobs on the platform, there are jobs everywhere. So that experience for a job seeker has just been elevated due to the simple fact that there's so much opportunity available.
It was the smaller towns that maybe didn't have a bunch. And now that there are seven and a half million jobs on the platform, there are jobs everywhere. So that experience for a job seeker has just been elevated due to the simple fact that there's so much opportunity available.
The app has evolved a ton since you would have spoken with Stephanie, but at its core, it's still doing what we initially set out for it to do, which is help people find jobs. And now we're just showing more and more opportunities for people. We're working with a new team in terms of our developers and our tech side. So our CTO and our developers are just, they're amazing.
The app has evolved a ton since you would have spoken with Stephanie, but at its core, it's still doing what we initially set out for it to do, which is help people find jobs. And now we're just showing more and more opportunities for people. We're working with a new team in terms of our developers and our tech side. So our CTO and our developers are just, they're amazing.
I don't have a technical background. And so having people who are so knowledgeable and such experts in this area makes it so easy for me. Our CTO, for example, is a former Google executive. He was a co-creator of YouTube TV.
I don't have a technical background. And so having people who are so knowledgeable and such experts in this area makes it so easy for me. Our CTO, for example, is a former Google executive. He was a co-creator of YouTube TV.
And just knowing that somebody like that is on our team who shares the vision and really has the same kind of goal in mind, it just takes off so much stress and it's such a relief.
And just knowing that somebody like that is on our team who shares the vision and really has the same kind of goal in mind, it just takes off so much stress and it's such a relief.
And so what we're doing now, what we want to hope or what we hope to continue to do is obviously just support people in their job search, continue to grow the platform in terms of making sure there are more and more opportunities and really introducing things that are going to help people on their job search.
And so what we're doing now, what we want to hope or what we hope to continue to do is obviously just support people in their job search, continue to grow the platform in terms of making sure there are more and more opportunities and really introducing things that are going to help people on their job search.
Because one of the things that we're also doing now is really making a lot of educational content and really trying to go above and beyond in terms of how we're helping people in their job search outside of just providing them a platform with opportunities to look for. It's unfortunate, but a lot of people really struggle, especially younger people really struggle in their job search.
Because one of the things that we're also doing now is really making a lot of educational content and really trying to go above and beyond in terms of how we're helping people in their job search outside of just providing them a platform with opportunities to look for. It's unfortunate, but a lot of people really struggle, especially younger people really struggle in their job search.
especially when it comes to things like resume building or communication with an employer, that type of etiquette, how to communicate, what to do beyond an interview, how to prep for an interview.
especially when it comes to things like resume building or communication with an employer, that type of etiquette, how to communicate, what to do beyond an interview, how to prep for an interview.
So those are a lot of things that we're starting to introduce as well, which are really going to help more people because a lot of people, unfortunately, miss out on opportunities because of silly things. And if we can help fix that, it's just another way that we're helping people out in their job search.
So those are a lot of things that we're starting to introduce as well, which are really going to help more people because a lot of people, unfortunately, miss out on opportunities because of silly things. And if we can help fix that, it's just another way that we're helping people out in their job search.
Yeah, so it's funny you ask because that's something that is just always ongoing. And I think for us, one of the biggest things that we really wanted to solve and make sure that we were doing was providing ample opportunity on the app and on the website. Because that was a bit of feedback that we heard early on was remote areas don't necessarily have the most jobs.
Yeah, so it's funny you ask because that's something that is just always ongoing. And I think for us, one of the biggest things that we really wanted to solve and make sure that we were doing was providing ample opportunity on the app and on the website. Because that was a bit of feedback that we heard early on was remote areas don't necessarily have the most jobs.
And there are people who struggle in those areas who need jobs and who can't find jobs. And so now that was one thing that we really wanted to prioritize and really make an emphasis on improving. So the fact that we were able to hit seven and a half million jobs and the number of jobs is growing was priority one for us.
And there are people who struggle in those areas who need jobs and who can't find jobs. And so now that was one thing that we really wanted to prioritize and really make an emphasis on improving. So the fact that we were able to hit seven and a half million jobs and the number of jobs is growing was priority one for us.
That at its core was something we really wanted to do and make sure that whatever we were doing in the background, whatever updates or new tweaks we were making, there would always be jobs there. So we're really proud and excited of the fact that there are that many jobs available right now.
That at its core was something we really wanted to do and make sure that whatever we were doing in the background, whatever updates or new tweaks we were making, there would always be jobs there. So we're really proud and excited of the fact that there are that many jobs available right now.
It just makes the experience so much easier and it provides the user a lot of opportunities that they maybe don't find on other platforms or maybe they don't even know exists. We're also, like I said, introducing more educational content and things that we're going to have behind paywalls and different features in the app that we're going to introduce.
It just makes the experience so much easier and it provides the user a lot of opportunities that they maybe don't find on other platforms or maybe they don't even know exists. We're also, like I said, introducing more educational content and things that we're going to have behind paywalls and different features in the app that we're going to introduce.
And it's funny, like our product roadmap, I feel like it's always evolving. And one of the nice things about having a former Google executive as our CTO now is the amount of ideas and outside the box thinking that they bring. It's amazing. And so right now, like I said, the biggest thing was making sure that there were jobs on the platform.
And it's funny, like our product roadmap, I feel like it's always evolving. And one of the nice things about having a former Google executive as our CTO now is the amount of ideas and outside the box thinking that they bring. It's amazing. And so right now, like I said, the biggest thing was making sure that there were jobs on the platform.
And now that we have the jobs and the number is continuing to grow, there's so many other things that we're going to be working on and introduce in the background. But I think that was the biggest thing, making sure that the jobs were there.
And now that we have the jobs and the number is continuing to grow, there's so many other things that we're going to be working on and introduce in the background. But I think that was the biggest thing, making sure that the jobs were there.
Definitely part of that. Again, I think what inspired that part of it is a lot of people struggle. It's easy to go onto a platform, whether it's Swab or another site, and look for jobs and apply. But beyond that, if you struggle or don't really know what to do in terms of next steps... you're just going to get weeded out.
Definitely part of that. Again, I think what inspired that part of it is a lot of people struggle. It's easy to go onto a platform, whether it's Swab or another site, and look for jobs and apply. But beyond that, if you struggle or don't really know what to do in terms of next steps... you're just going to get weeded out.
It's unfortunate because we've seen it so many times and we've seen so many opportunities and so many cases where somebody didn't get a job or didn't get a second interview or whatever it is because of silly mistakes. And so what might seem obvious to you and I when searching for jobs or communicating with a potential employer, it's not so obvious to a lot of people.
It's unfortunate because we've seen it so many times and we've seen so many opportunities and so many cases where somebody didn't get a job or didn't get a second interview or whatever it is because of silly mistakes. And so what might seem obvious to you and I when searching for jobs or communicating with a potential employer, it's not so obvious to a lot of people.
And so that was just something where we thought we really, we want to make sure that candidates and people that are on our platform have access to opportunities, but we want to make sure that they're actually getting, taking advantage of the opportunities and getting in those doors.
And so that was just something where we thought we really, we want to make sure that candidates and people that are on our platform have access to opportunities, but we want to make sure that they're actually getting, taking advantage of the opportunities and getting in those doors.
So that was something that was really important to us was to really make sure that if people are struggling, that beyond the job opportunities that are shown on SWAB, we're offering resources to also help you in that journey and really help you feel confident when you're applying to those jobs. Because we've also seen a lot of people who
So that was something that was really important to us was to really make sure that if people are struggling, that beyond the job opportunities that are shown on SWAB, we're offering resources to also help you in that journey and really help you feel confident when you're applying to those jobs. Because we've also seen a lot of people who
afraid to apply to jobs and because they don't know how to handle if an employer reaches out or calls them for an initial phone interview. And so if we can just help those individuals feel that much more prepared and confident, that's the biggest thing. So really making sure that when you're on swab, you're finding those opportunities, but you're actually landing those opportunities as well.
afraid to apply to jobs and because they don't know how to handle if an employer reaches out or calls them for an initial phone interview. And so if we can just help those individuals feel that much more prepared and confident, that's the biggest thing. So really making sure that when you're on swab, you're finding those opportunities, but you're actually landing those opportunities as well.
Yeah, so that was an awesome experience. So in 2018, we were actually named the first ever Canadian company to win Richard Branson's Pitch to Rich contest. In the early days of Swab, Stephanie and I used to do a lot of pitch competitions and get involved in as many contests or competitions that we could.
Yeah, so that was an awesome experience. So in 2018, we were actually named the first ever Canadian company to win Richard Branson's Pitch to Rich contest. In the early days of Swab, Stephanie and I used to do a lot of pitch competitions and get involved in as many contests or competitions that we could.
Because for us, we just thought it could be an opportunity to win money and really put that back into the business and help us. And so that was something that I had come across. There was an application process for it. I thought, hey, what do we have to lose? Why not? So I submitted the application and I'm not sure, maybe a month or so went by, found out that we were a finalist.
Because for us, we just thought it could be an opportunity to win money and really put that back into the business and help us. And so that was something that I had come across. There was an application process for it. I thought, hey, what do we have to lose? Why not? So I submitted the application and I'm not sure, maybe a month or so went by, found out that we were a finalist.
We had to do a one minute video pitch to Richard Branson that he would personally view and found out a couple of days later that we had won. And honestly, like even talking about it now, When I think about that, it was so surreal getting that phone call saying that we had won.
We had to do a one minute video pitch to Richard Branson that he would personally view and found out a couple of days later that we had won. And honestly, like even talking about it now, When I think about that, it was so surreal getting that phone call saying that we had won.
And honestly, it was so humbling to know that an idea that we had, the risk that we took to start this idea was validated by somebody like Richard Branson. So it was truly humbling for me and for Stephanie as well. It was such an awesome experience. We actually got flown out to Calgary and got to spend some time with Richard. We went to an event with him and it was awesome.
And honestly, it was so humbling to know that an idea that we had, the risk that we took to start this idea was validated by somebody like Richard Branson. So it was truly humbling for me and for Stephanie as well. It was such an awesome experience. We actually got flown out to Calgary and got to spend some time with Richard. We went to an event with him and it was awesome.
We had so much fun and really got to pick his brain. And like I said, just knowing that he was the one to personally select us as the winners, it truly was humbling.
We had so much fun and really got to pick his brain. And like I said, just knowing that he was the one to personally select us as the winners, it truly was humbling.
It's a good question. And that's one thing where I'm grateful we have a CTO with the type of knowledge that he has and the team that we have in terms of our tech support or our technical side. I think with anything, there's always hiccups or hurdles along the way. And in this case, it's no different. Things are always crashing. Things always go wrong.
It's a good question. And that's one thing where I'm grateful we have a CTO with the type of knowledge that he has and the team that we have in terms of our tech support or our technical side. I think with anything, there's always hiccups or hurdles along the way. And in this case, it's no different. Things are always crashing. Things always go wrong.
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This will be interesting because you've done a lot in this space, but I'm really curious about, you know, if you look across all that you've built and all that you've figured out and all that you're teaching others, what are you most proud of?
This will be interesting because you've done a lot in this space, but I'm really curious about, you know, if you look across all that you've built and all that you've figured out and all that you're teaching others, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you responded to it.
Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you responded to it.
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He attended the Berklee College of Music with a dual major in songwriting. He ended up going back to computers to make ends meet while he was gigging, and he figured out he really enjoyed watching people use the software he built. Outside of tech and professional life, he's married with two kids and two dogs.
Okay, so this will be super interesting to hear. What does the future look like for all that you offer? You've written many books, you've got courses, you're teaching, you have community that you've built. What does the future look like for all those things?
Okay, so this will be super interesting to hear. What does the future look like for all that you offer? You've written many books, you've got courses, you're teaching, you have community that you've built. What does the future look like for all those things?
He is an avid martial artist, as are his kids, and he got his second degree black belt at the age of 53. At his prior company, Jonathan was leading teams to build software. He wanted to hire senior engineers, but was told junior engineers would better fit the budget. Then it dawned on him. Hourly billing for a junior created more margin.
He is an avid martial artist, as are his kids, and he got his second degree black belt at the age of 53. At his prior company, Jonathan was leading teams to build software. He wanted to hire senior engineers, but was told junior engineers would better fit the budget. Then it dawned on him. Hourly billing for a junior created more margin.
So let's switch to you, Jonathan. What influences the way that you work? Are there any sort of methods that you follow or rituals?
So let's switch to you, Jonathan. What influences the way that you work? Are there any sort of methods that you follow or rituals?
He wanted to pivot away from hourly billing as a company and went solo to figure out the best way to do this. Once he did, he never looked back. This is the creation story of Jonathan Stark and Ditching Hourly.
He wanted to pivot away from hourly billing as a company and went solo to figure out the best way to do this. Once he did, he never looked back. This is the creation story of Jonathan Stark and Ditching Hourly.
Okay, Jonathan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. Or maybe it's the next big like mindset or the next big approach to something.
Okay, Jonathan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. Or maybe it's the next big like mindset or the next big approach to something.
Kind of like what you did with value-based pricing and ditching hourly. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit now?
Kind of like what you did with value-based pricing and ditching hourly. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit now?
Well, I can appreciate all of that. Well, Jonathan, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Ditching Hourly and JonathanStark.com.
Well, I can appreciate all of that. Well, Jonathan, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Ditching Hourly and JonathanStark.com.
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So this is really interesting because, you know, as we talked about, normally I ask questions around the MVP of your product, but I'm really curious about what the MVP was about this non-hourly model, right? When you stepped out and you started figuring out how to do this, what was your MVP and how long did it take you to come up with it and what sort of tools were helping you bring it to life?
So this is really interesting because, you know, as we talked about, normally I ask questions around the MVP of your product, but I'm really curious about what the MVP was about this non-hourly model, right? When you stepped out and you started figuring out how to do this, what was your MVP and how long did it take you to come up with it and what sort of tools were helping you bring it to life?
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I want to dive in a little bit to, you know, you grabbed the book that was your Bible, and that's what you're using to sort of build your own framework before you did your first proposal. And you mentioned some nuances there. You had to shift towards building things. Tell me about some of those nuances.
I want to dive in a little bit to, you know, you grabbed the book that was your Bible, and that's what you're using to sort of build your own framework before you did your first proposal. And you mentioned some nuances there. You had to shift towards building things. Tell me about some of those nuances.
And I suspect in those nuances, you probably had to make decisions and tradeoffs around how you're going to, you know, shift from the service-based, value-based pricing to what you were wanting to do. And tell me about some of those that you had to work through.
And I suspect in those nuances, you probably had to make decisions and tradeoffs around how you're going to, you know, shift from the service-based, value-based pricing to what you were wanting to do. And tell me about some of those that you had to work through.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So if we've moved forward from that point, right, you've gone out, you're solo, you figure out how to do the value-based pricing, you're getting clients, you're succeeding, right? And at some point, you decide to teach others how to do this. And I think...
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I think I'm going to liken that to maybe like a, you know, a company roadmap or a product roadmap, right? Like, how did you decide it was time to do that? Or how did you decide it was time to take a next maturation step in the process for, you know, ditching hourly?
I think I'm going to liken that to maybe like a, you know, a company roadmap or a product roadmap, right? Like, how did you decide it was time to do that? Or how did you decide it was time to take a next maturation step in the process for, you know, ditching hourly?
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We had talked before about team, right? And I think you have an interesting viewpoint on team. And I'd really like to hear how you view team. You know, team can be important for some things and not important for others. But tell me, tell me how you view team. Do you ever plan to add a team to help run things at JonathanStark.com? Tell me about that there.
We had talked before about team, right? And I think you have an interesting viewpoint on team. And I'd really like to hear how you view team. You know, team can be important for some things and not important for others. But tell me, tell me how you view team. Do you ever plan to add a team to help run things at JonathanStark.com? Tell me about that there.
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with DigiCode, what are you most proud of?
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with DigiCode, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be interesting. Tell me what the future looks like for DigiCode and what you offer and for your team.
This will be interesting. Tell me what the future looks like for DigiCode and what you offer and for your team.
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Let's switch to you, Alkin. Who influences the way that you work? A person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
Let's switch to you, Alkin. Who influences the way that you work? A person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
He eventually left tech to try some other types of businesses, but eventually returned. He has done a few early stage startups in the past, in particular in the 3D printing space before it was cool. Six years ago, he joined his current venture, but outside of tech, he enjoys traveling and is in a competition with his daughter to see how many countries he can visit.
He eventually left tech to try some other types of businesses, but eventually returned. He has done a few early stage startups in the past, in particular in the 3D printing space before it was cool. Six years ago, he joined his current venture, but outside of tech, he enjoys traveling and is in a competition with his daughter to see how many countries he can visit.
Elkin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person?
Elkin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person?
Having gone down this road a bit, you mentioned earlier from a startup fashion, but also in DigiCode. There is so much.
Having gone down this road a bit, you mentioned earlier from a startup fashion, but also in DigiCode. There is so much.
When he reads, he prefers to go back to the books he has read and enjoyed before. And being in Texas, he's a big fan of grilling out on his big green egg. As I mentioned, six years ago, Elkin joined a company that wanted to be more than a software development shop.
When he reads, he prefers to go back to the books he has read and enjoyed before. And being in Texas, he's a big fan of grilling out on his big green egg. As I mentioned, six years ago, Elkin joined a company that wanted to be more than a software development shop.
I appreciate that advice. Well, Elkin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story, your creation story at DigiCode.
I appreciate that advice. Well, Elkin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story, your creation story at DigiCode.
It was a pleasure. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He and the founder of the company wanted to build a company that did more than throw bodies at a problem, but actually become a long-term partner to their clients. This is the creation story of DigiCode.
He and the founder of the company wanted to build a company that did more than throw bodies at a problem, but actually become a long-term partner to their clients. This is the creation story of DigiCode.
Let's dive into what you would consider, you know, the MVP when you joined the company, right? The first version of Digicode, you know, where was the company at? What you offered? How are you approaching what you offered and how you were offering it? And tell me a little bit about those early stories when you joined.
Let's dive into what you would consider, you know, the MVP when you joined the company, right? The first version of Digicode, you know, where was the company at? What you offered? How are you approaching what you offered and how you were offering it? And tell me a little bit about those early stories when you joined.
Let's dive into that. So, you know, OK, so that's the first version. Right. And and I'm I'm curious about that evolution that probably fits into what might be considered a roadmap. Right. Or how you're going about evolving that business or addressing what's important. So tell me a little bit about that.
Let's dive into that. So, you know, OK, so that's the first version. Right. And and I'm I'm curious about that evolution that probably fits into what might be considered a roadmap. Right. Or how you're going about evolving that business or addressing what's important. So tell me a little bit about that.
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You know, you said you're saying we multiple times. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. Right. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
You know, you said you're saying we multiple times. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. Right. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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And have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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And have there been any interesting stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
And have there been any interesting stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built at Amplitude, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built at Amplitude, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be interesting. It'll be actually really fun to hear your passion come through this question. What does the future look like for Amplitude, the product and for your team?
This will be interesting. It'll be actually really fun to hear your passion come through this question. What does the future look like for Amplitude, the product and for your team?
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Thomas, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Thomas, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, you know, we talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning of your time at Amplitude, what would you do different? Or where would you consider a different approach? It doesn't have to be a mistake. It could have been something that worked, even worked well. But maybe you'd tweak it a little bit.
Okay, you know, we talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning of your time at Amplitude, what would you do different? Or where would you consider a different approach? It doesn't have to be a mistake. It could have been something that worked, even worked well. But maybe you'd tweak it a little bit.
Last question, Thomas. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Thomas. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Thomas, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling your creation story at Amplitude. You bet. Thanks for the invite. Really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Thomas, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling your creation story at Amplitude. You bet. Thanks for the invite. Really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
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Thomas was introduced to his current venture through an early investor in the company. He met with the co-founder, Spencer, and sparks flew. There was a great fit and chemistry between them, and he was invited on board to push the company forward to new heights. This is Thomas' creation story at Amplitude.
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Normally, I ask about like, tell me about the MVP of the product, right? The MVP, you know, was built kind of prior to your time. I'm curious about what was your MVP, Thomas? When you joined the company, what was your first thing that you took on and what sort of state it was in and what sort of tools you were using to get started?
Normally, I ask about like, tell me about the MVP of the product, right? The MVP, you know, was built kind of prior to your time. I'm curious about what was your MVP, Thomas? When you joined the company, what was your first thing that you took on and what sort of state it was in and what sort of tools you were using to get started?
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So in that, tell me about certain decisions and trade-offs you've had to make, right? You got to work through different things when you're trying to deploy something, when you're trying to take something on, you've got to work through how you're going to even approach the problem. So tell me about some of those hard ones you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
So in that, tell me about certain decisions and trade-offs you've had to make, right? You got to work through different things when you're trying to deploy something, when you're trying to take something on, you've got to work through how you're going to even approach the problem. So tell me about some of those hard ones you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
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And I'm curious about how you go about building a roadmap, but I'm curious about how you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with Amplitude.
And I'm curious about how you go about building a roadmap, but I'm curious about how you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with Amplitude.
Okay, so I hear you saying we in that description. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. And how do you and how does Amplitude decide, okay, this is the winning horse to join the team?
Okay, so I hear you saying we in that description. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. And how do you and how does Amplitude decide, okay, this is the winning horse to join the team?
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Now you have Vector Search. You're fueling this local replica process. Where do you take this next? This is already an incredibly powerful platform, but where do you take this next? Where do you see this going?
Now you have Vector Search. You're fueling this local replica process. Where do you take this next? This is already an incredibly powerful platform, but where do you take this next? Where do you see this going?
Awesome. I appreciate that. I want to dive into the SDK portion because you're right. It's super fragmented. There's all kinds of things that you would need to support. How do you choose what is the most important SDK to go make sure is perfect? And how do you go about deciding if you're going to add new ones?
Awesome. I appreciate that. I want to dive into the SDK portion because you're right. It's super fragmented. There's all kinds of things that you would need to support. How do you choose what is the most important SDK to go make sure is perfect? And how do you go about deciding if you're going to add new ones?
Makes sense, totally makes sense. And it is a struggle. There's so much out there. Okay, so I'm a developer. I'm building this really cool product and I wanna be able to use SQLite. I wanna be able to use something like Terso where I can remotely update my databases, but on the device itself, I want to be able to do the vector search. I wanna be able to have the embedded replica.
Makes sense, totally makes sense. And it is a struggle. There's so much out there. Okay, so I'm a developer. I'm building this really cool product and I wanna be able to use SQLite. I wanna be able to use something like Terso where I can remotely update my databases, but on the device itself, I want to be able to do the vector search. I wanna be able to have the embedded replica.
I wanna essentially be able to process data in a fast way on my local device. How do I get started using Terso? What do I need to do?
I wanna essentially be able to process data in a fast way on my local device. How do I get started using Terso? What do I need to do?
Fantastic. Well, Pekka, I really appreciate you being on the show today and giving the update on Terso. done some really amazing things with the things that you're calling, quote unquote, boring with multi-tenancy and embedded replicas.
Fantastic. Well, Pekka, I really appreciate you being on the show today and giving the update on Terso. done some really amazing things with the things that you're calling, quote unquote, boring with multi-tenancy and embedded replicas.
But the vector search capabilities that are on device and being able to power that fast data retrieval and remote syncing with your edge network is really, really fantastic and fascinating. Really appreciate you being on the show, giving the update. Cool. Thank you for having me. Incredible.
But the vector search capabilities that are on device and being able to power that fast data retrieval and remote syncing with your edge network is really, really fantastic and fascinating. Really appreciate you being on the show, giving the update. Cool. Thank you for having me. Incredible.
Now with Terso, you can not only have embedded replicas on your device with multi-tenancy and syncing to Terso's edge network, but now the tool powers vector search from the device itself, leading to natively serverless, low-latency SQLite production loads. Terso continues to push the envelope forward with their product and expanding use cases for development.
Now with Terso, you can not only have embedded replicas on your device with multi-tenancy and syncing to Terso's edge network, but now the tool powers vector search from the device itself, leading to natively serverless, low-latency SQLite production loads. Terso continues to push the envelope forward with their product and expanding use cases for development.
If you'd like to learn more about Terso, go to terso.tech. If you'd like to learn more specifically about Vector Search, go to terso.tech slash vector or sign up for their Discord. And thanks again for listening.
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Remind my audience what Terso is. So you gave the high level of your founder of Terso and bringing more lows to SQLite. But tell me and the audience a bit of a reminder of what Terso really is.
Remind my audience what Terso is. So you gave the high level of your founder of Terso and bringing more lows to SQLite. But tell me and the audience a bit of a reminder of what Terso really is.
Tell me about some of the maybe the success stories of the customers. What are they doing with Terso and how have they found success with bringing that into production?
Tell me about some of the maybe the success stories of the customers. What are they doing with Terso and how have they found success with bringing that into production?
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Okay, so tell me the update. We talked about a few things before recording the episode, but I'm curious about what has gone on with Terso. What have you built? What have you shipped to the world? And what has been the big changes with the product?
Okay, so tell me the update. We talked about a few things before recording the episode, but I'm curious about what has gone on with Terso. What have you built? What have you shipped to the world? And what has been the big changes with the product?
Okay, so I want to dig into the boring part before I get into the not boring part with the vector search. So from an engineering standpoint, I couldn't imagine multi-tenancy and all the things you're working on or worked on there was boring. But tell me why that's important. Why is it important for multi-tenancy for your customers?
Okay, so I want to dig into the boring part before I get into the not boring part with the vector search. So from an engineering standpoint, I couldn't imagine multi-tenancy and all the things you're working on or worked on there was boring. But tell me why that's important. Why is it important for multi-tenancy for your customers?
Today, I have an incredible follow-up episode from our friends at Terso. You may remember our episode with Glauber Costa in Season 8, where he told us the creation story of the platform. Today, I'm speaking with his co-founder, Pekka, to hear the update on Terso and what the team has been building over the past year. Have a listen.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. Certainly. Okay, that makes sense. That gives me a good idea there of what people would use that for. Okay, so tell me about vector search. So people are, you know, are getting, you know, bored, sure, with the LLM stuff, because it's all in the buzz and things, but it's super useful. And it's really valuable.
Give me some use cases of the vector search. What drove you to that?
Give me some use cases of the vector search. What drove you to that?
Well, today I have another special guest on the Code Story podcast, Pekka Enberg of Terso. Pekka, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you.
Well, today I have another special guest on the Code Story podcast, Pekka Enberg of Terso. Pekka, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you.
Yeah, wow. So that's really interesting. You can pull data essentially from within the client itself, whether it be mobile device, and we're talking about mobile devices, eventually, maybe it could be browsers or something like that. But a client, you don't have to go to a server itself to do the heavy computing. How did you figure that out? Because that's not a small thing.
Yeah, wow. So that's really interesting. You can pull data essentially from within the client itself, whether it be mobile device, and we're talking about mobile devices, eventually, maybe it could be browsers or something like that. But a client, you don't have to go to a server itself to do the heavy computing. How did you figure that out? Because that's not a small thing.
Usually, you're reliant on the power of the device, right? So if you're using a weak device, it's not going to work very well. Tell me about that.
Usually, you're reliant on the power of the device, right? So if you're using a weak device, it's not going to work very well. Tell me about that.
Absolutely. You know, recently we had your partner Glauber on the podcast to tell us about the creation, the inception story of Terso. But we're going to dive into a bit of an update of the things you've been working on. But before we do, tell me a little bit about you.
Absolutely. You know, recently we had your partner Glauber on the podcast to tell us about the creation, the inception story of Terso. But we're going to dive into a bit of an update of the things you've been working on. But before we do, tell me a little bit about you.
No doubt. It's a really smart way to solve that problem, right, of the local replica, the being able to vector search on the device while still, you know, or eventually syncing, right, to your edge network, to your remote databases. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
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Let's flip to scalability. And this will be super interesting given you are a professional services business building technology. So there is probably technology that helps you, but it's really you're scaling people and teams. So tell me about how you approach that. And have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with distillery, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with distillery, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Tell me what the future looks like for Distillery, the company, the team, and where you're going.
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Let's switch to you, Andre. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Andre. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
So last question, Andre, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or the next big company with professional services. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to tell you about it. If it's a product, they can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
So last question, Andre, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or the next big company with professional services. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to tell you about it. If it's a product, they can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
But outside of his professional life, he is married with two daughters. He enjoys running long distance, and he's officially run five marathons, and unofficially, he's joined many more along the way. Right after he graduated from university, Andre saw a fantastic level of talent in developing countries.
But outside of his professional life, he is married with two daughters. He enjoys running long distance, and he's officially run five marathons, and unofficially, he's joined many more along the way. Right after he graduated from university, Andre saw a fantastic level of talent in developing countries.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Andre, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Distillery. Thank you so much, Noah. I really appreciate your time as well. And this concludes another chapter of Coat Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Andre, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Distillery. Thank you so much, Noah. I really appreciate your time as well. And this concludes another chapter of Coat Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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At the same time, he noticed the amount of profitable opportunity in the United States and decided to build a business that joined the two. This is the creation story of Distillery.
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Tell me about what you would consider the MVP for Distillery, right? So I ask questions, and you build a lot of MVPs, you and your team, and I ask questions a lot about products on this show, but I'm curious about for Distillery, what would you consider that first version of your company?
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP for Distillery, right? So I ask questions, and you build a lot of MVPs, you and your team, and I ask questions a lot about products on this show, but I'm curious about for Distillery, what would you consider that first version of your company?
What I want to dive into next is decisions and trade-offs. When you are building your company in those early days, you mentioned it kind of started right after university. You have to work through how you're going to start. Tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to make and how you coped with them.
What I want to dive into next is decisions and trade-offs. When you are building your company in those early days, you mentioned it kind of started right after university. You have to work through how you're going to start. Tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to make and how you coped with them.
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Tell me about what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
Tell me about what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
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Given what you've built and who you're building it for, I'm curious about scalability, right? You know, obviously you build for scale the best you can in the beginning with abstractions and things. And I'm curious, did you approach it that way from day one or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Given what you've built and who you're building it for, I'm curious about scalability, right? You know, obviously you build for scale the best you can in the beginning with abstractions and things. And I'm curious, did you approach it that way from day one or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far. What are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far. What are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. I know you mentioned the scalability mistake, and maybe it's that one and you want to dig in more, or maybe it's a different one.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. I know you mentioned the scalability mistake, and maybe it's that one and you want to dig in more, or maybe it's a different one.
So this will be fun, Conrad. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
So this will be fun, Conrad. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Conrad. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Conrad. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Conrad. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Conrad. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Conrad, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Lecko.
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Conrad, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Lecko.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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His core values are curiosity and community, which drives a lot of what he does outside of tech. He likes to learn other things, and his current hobby set includes surfing and spikeball, of which he's working on perfecting his spin serve. Conrad worked at Uber on the self-driving team. After a few years, he wanted to be less of a cog in the machine and joined a small startup.
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He introduced a feature flagging platform and quickly realized how fast configuration bloat appeared in the platform. He also realized how dynamic configuration could take the platform beyond the limits of feature flags. This is the creation story of Lekko.
He introduced a feature flagging platform and quickly realized how fast configuration bloat appeared in the platform. He also realized how dynamic configuration could take the platform beyond the limits of feature flags. This is the creation story of Lekko.
Let's dive into the MVP of Leko, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's dive into the MVP of Leko, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
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Let's stay on that version or that MVP, the first one. Those decisions and trade-offs you had to make when you were building those, right? They're hard. You gotta really dig in and figure out what you're gonna focus on, how you're gonna approach the problem and all those sorts of things. So tell me about some of those you had to work through in this first version and how you coped with them.
Let's stay on that version or that MVP, the first one. Those decisions and trade-offs you had to make when you were building those, right? They're hard. You gotta really dig in and figure out what you're gonna focus on, how you're gonna approach the problem and all those sorts of things. So tell me about some of those you had to work through in this first version and how you coped with them.
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And I think this is where the next MVP sort of introduces itself. And I think that's part of the progression of the product. So tell me about that MVP version two and also how you went about deciding that this was the most appropriate thing to do next. And, you know, to wrap in a box a little bit, kind of roadmap building.
And I think this is where the next MVP sort of introduces itself. And I think that's part of the progression of the product. So tell me about that MVP version two and also how you went about deciding that this was the most appropriate thing to do next. And, you know, to wrap in a box a little bit, kind of roadmap building.
How do you go about deciding as a company that this is the next most important thing to build or to address for Lecko?
How do you go about deciding as a company that this is the next most important thing to build or to address for Lecko?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
You know, I hear I hear you talking about or I hear you saying we write. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
You know, I hear I hear you talking about or I hear you saying we write. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun. It's early days. You are building a product that you're excited to be known for now after the pivot. Tell me about what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
So this will be fun. It's early days. You are building a product that you're excited to be known for now after the pivot. Tell me about what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
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Okay, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, so last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, so last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. I certainly agree with that. Well, Icky, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Common Base.
That's fantastic advice. I certainly agree with that. Well, Icky, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Common Base.
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Hagee Riesenkamp is from a tiny country called Estonia, later studying computer science in London and doing his post-grad in Zurich. He has been into machine learning since before all of the hype it has now. Outside of technology, he dreams of being a macro-economist and spends a ton of time reading about the topic.
Hagee Riesenkamp is from a tiny country called Estonia, later studying computer science in London and doing his post-grad in Zurich. He has been into machine learning since before all of the hype it has now. Outside of technology, he dreams of being a macro-economist and spends a ton of time reading about the topic.
He lives in New York now and frequently takes in the architecture, fashion, and local art scene. Previously, Heike spent time working for a VC, eventually building a product in a completely different domain. After personally realizing that he didn't want to be known for the product he was building, he pivoted towards building something that impacted him personally as an immigrant.
He lives in New York now and frequently takes in the architecture, fashion, and local art scene. Previously, Heike spent time working for a VC, eventually building a product in a completely different domain. After personally realizing that he didn't want to be known for the product he was building, he pivoted towards building something that impacted him personally as an immigrant.
This is the creation story of CommonBase.
This is the creation story of CommonBase.
So tell me about and this will this will be super interesting. Tell me about the MVP for CommonBase. And this is the this is the second version. Obviously, there's going to be technological overlap like we talked about. But the MVP for what CommonBase is now, how long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So tell me about and this will this will be super interesting. Tell me about the MVP for CommonBase. And this is the this is the second version. Obviously, there's going to be technological overlap like we talked about. But the MVP for what CommonBase is now, how long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, any version of a product, you have to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to approach it. And I hear you saying you approached it to prove the point. Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make. Feature cut or approach or tech debt acceptance, all those things. And how you cope with those decisions.
Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, any version of a product, you have to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to approach it. And I hear you saying you approached it to prove the point. Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make. Feature cut or approach or tech debt acceptance, all those things. And how you cope with those decisions.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you've got that version. You've proved the point. And I know it's still early days, but how are you maturing and progressing the product from there? And I think I'm curious about how you build your quote unquote roadmap, right?
And how do you go about deciding what is the next most important thing to build or to address?
And how do you go about deciding what is the next most important thing to build or to address?
So how do you go about or how are you going to go about building your team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So how do you go about or how are you going to go about building your team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Given all of your experience and you were doing machine learning before it's cool, right? So you've been around this space for a while. I'm curious about how you approach scalability. And I heard the tools you were using and things of that nature, but was this built to scale from day one?
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Given all of your experience and you were doing machine learning before it's cool, right? So you've been around this space for a while. I'm curious about how you approach scalability. And I heard the tools you were using and things of that nature, but was this built to scale from day one?
Or are there interesting areas where you're fighting it as you grow?
Or are there interesting areas where you're fighting it as you grow?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far with Commonbase, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far with Commonbase, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun because it's early days and it's you and your co-founder. But what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
So this will be fun because it's early days and it's you and your co-founder. But what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Ro. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Ro. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Ralph. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Ralph. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Well, Rove, thanks for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Block Party.
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Well, Rove, thanks for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Block Party.
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Rohith Varanasi grew up in Jersey and had a chill childhood playing video games and sports from a young age. He wanted to learn how to build a video game and upon Googling it, decided he should build a website first. And at that point, he was hooked on coding. He got into jailbreaking the PlayStation and writing real code to mod games.
Rohith Varanasi grew up in Jersey and had a chill childhood playing video games and sports from a young age. He wanted to learn how to build a video game and upon Googling it, decided he should build a website first. And at that point, he was hooked on coding. He got into jailbreaking the PlayStation and writing real code to mod games.
Eventually, he got into hackathons and ended up building a web browser based on SMS called Cosmos, which went viral. Outside of tech, he's into paddle, loves going to the gym and hanging with his girlfriend and their one-year-old cat. Ro and his co-founder have been building a bunch of different consumer products.
Eventually, he got into hackathons and ended up building a web browser based on SMS called Cosmos, which went viral. Outside of tech, he's into paddle, loves going to the gym and hanging with his girlfriend and their one-year-old cat. Ro and his co-founder have been building a bunch of different consumer products.
The latest product they built allows people to earn in-game rewards by walking and do so in a non-deterministic way. Under the hood, they are using generative AI to create endless outcomes and optimal replayability. This is the creation story of Block Party.
The latest product they built allows people to earn in-game rewards by walking and do so in a non-deterministic way. Under the hood, they are using generative AI to create endless outcomes and optimal replayability. This is the creation story of Block Party.
So tell me about the MVP for Block Party. What did that first version of the product look and feel like? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So tell me about the MVP for Block Party. What did that first version of the product look and feel like? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
On that MVP version, when you're building any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about how you're going to approach building the solution, creating the product. So tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through, maybe around tech debt or approach, or like you said, you're on iOS only, kind of working through those decisions.
On that MVP version, when you're building any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about how you're going to approach building the solution, creating the product. So tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through, maybe around tech debt or approach, or like you said, you're on iOS only, kind of working through those decisions.
Tell me about how you made those and how you coped with the decisions.
Tell me about how you made those and how you coped with the decisions.
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This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you got the MVP working, right? You've got this new Gen AI library in it. The timing's great. You've up-leveled the experience and you're getting that traction. How are you going about building your roadmap of what's next, right? How are you going to mature and progress the product?
And I'm curious about how you decide what is the next most important thing to build or to address with the product?
And I'm curious about how you decide what is the next most important thing to build or to address with the product?
So this will be interesting. Tell me about team. How do you go about building your team? Is it just you or do you have multiple people that you're working with? And what do you look for in those people and indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So this will be interesting. Tell me about team. How do you go about building your team? Is it just you or do you have multiple people that you're working with? And what do you look for in those people and indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lapart. And today, how Rohith Varanasi built a way for you to explore the town. and have an adventure earn rewards all with your friends. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. I want to flip to scalability, and this will be interesting because there's so many different ways to approach this, but I'm curious about how you approached scalability.
Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. I want to flip to scalability, and this will be interesting because there's so many different ways to approach this, but I'm curious about how you approached scalability.
Was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind, maybe abstractions, things like that, or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind, maybe abstractions, things like that, or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of? And I mean with Blockparty specifically.
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of? And I mean with Blockparty specifically.
So I hear you saying we a few times, tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we a few times, tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
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For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be interesting. Given what you've built, I'm curious where scale has become interesting, right? Was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind, abstraction, things like that?
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This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Well, Amri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built within Xero, what are you most proud of?
Well, Amri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built within Xero, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Okay, Amri, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, Amri, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, last question on me. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Okay, last question on me. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Amri, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of MZero.
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Amri, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of MZero.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Mostly, he enjoys chilling out, catching a movie or listening to music. Omri and his co-founder used to work together at a big company in Israel. They encountered problems scaling environments efficiently and fast. Back then, there was no cloud. It was just getting started.
Mostly, he enjoys chilling out, catching a movie or listening to music. Omri and his co-founder used to work together at a big company in Israel. They encountered problems scaling environments efficiently and fast. Back then, there was no cloud. It was just getting started.
When they began building something internally to solve the scaling problem, they encountered infrastructure as code, and the game changed. This is the creation story of MZero.
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Let's stay on the MVP for just a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you approach the problem, right? Could be, okay, we're going to really focus on this portion of the product, or we're going to use this framework. And I hear you mentioning tools there, or we're going to accept some technical debt.
Let's stay on the MVP for just a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you approach the problem, right? Could be, okay, we're going to really focus on this portion of the product, or we're going to use this framework. And I hear you mentioning tools there, or we're going to accept some technical debt.
Tell me about some of those things you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
Tell me about some of those things you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
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And I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with MZero.
And I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with MZero.
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with Neon in particular, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with Neon in particular, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to hear your answer. What does the future look like for Neon as a product and for the company?
This will be fun to hear your answer. What does the future look like for Neon as a product and for the company?
Let's switch to you, Nikita. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Nikita. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Nikita. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times?
Last question, Nikita. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times?
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Nikita, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of NEON.
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Nikita, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of NEON.
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Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Nikita Shamganov is enabling you to ship faster with Postgres. on a serverless platform where you can move fast. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf.
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Eventually he worked at Microsoft on the SQL Server product. A fun fact, Nikita quit business school on the first day and decided to join Facebook and find his future co-founder. All of this worked out and he and his co-founder built Singlestore, which is one of the highest valued companies at YC.
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He started to engineer and approach the team and the architecture and did so in some very unique and deliberate ways. This is the creation story of Neon.
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Let's dive into the MVP, so that first version of Neon you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life? I think that'll be super interesting given also what you said about Postgres.
Let's dive into the MVP, so that first version of Neon you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life? I think that'll be super interesting given also what you said about Postgres.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built to render, what are you most proud of? There's obviously lots to be proud of there, but tell me what comes to mind for you.
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. And I know there's scalability issues and things like that we already talked about, but less about growing pains and more about a mistake.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. And I know there's scalability issues and things like that we already talked about, but less about growing pains and more about a mistake.
This is your lifelong problem you want to work on, or you want to work on this problem for the rest of your life. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
This is your lifelong problem you want to work on, or you want to work on this problem for the rest of your life. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Anurag. So tell me who influences the way that you work. Tell me about a person or many persons or something that influences the way you work on a day-to-day basis.
Let's switch to you, Anurag. So tell me who influences the way that you work. Tell me about a person or many persons or something that influences the way you work on a day-to-day basis.
So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. So, Hanirat, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Render. Thank you.
I think that's fantastic advice. So, Hanirat, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Render. Thank you.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Anurag Goyal grew up in New Delhi, but moved to Boston after college for his first job. He worked at Stripe as the eighth employee before eventually moving on and launching his current venture. Outside of tech, he's married, living in San Francisco. He likes to read science fiction, especially prior to bedtime.
Anurag Goyal grew up in New Delhi, but moved to Boston after college for his first job. He worked at Stripe as the eighth employee before eventually moving on and launching his current venture. Outside of tech, he's married, living in San Francisco. He likes to read science fiction, especially prior to bedtime.
He also enjoys eating Thai food on the regular, though he mentioned he could eat pizza every day. Post leaving Stripe, Anurag decided to work on an ambitious problem. And he started doing this by building a bunch of stuff in many different domains.
He also enjoys eating Thai food on the regular, though he mentioned he could eat pizza every day. Post leaving Stripe, Anurag decided to work on an ambitious problem. And he started doing this by building a bunch of stuff in many different domains.
After noticing a common problem in building out Kubernetes, he decided to start a new business to abstract these problems and allow builders to focus on the differentiating factors of their solutions. This is the creation story of Render.
After noticing a common problem in building out Kubernetes, he decided to start a new business to abstract these problems and allow builders to focus on the differentiating factors of their solutions. This is the creation story of Render.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about that process you went through in building that. You still got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and deciding on what you choose. So I heard you choosing Python because that was your language of choice. Tell me a little bit more about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that early version and how you cope the decisions.
Tell me about that process you went through in building that. You still got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and deciding on what you choose. So I heard you choosing Python because that was your language of choice. Tell me a little bit more about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that early version and how you cope the decisions.
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This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
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Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
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And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you go about building your roadmap and then and now? And what criteria are you using to decide, OK, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Renderer?
And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you go about building your roadmap and then and now? And what criteria are you using to decide, OK, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Renderer?
I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, Anirag Gold has built you the fastest path to production, from your first user to your billions. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, Anirag Gold has built you the fastest path to production, from your first user to your billions. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. My next question will be super interesting. Given what you've built, was this built with scale in mind from the very beginning? Obviously it was, but have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with bread specifically, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with bread specifically, what are you most proud of?
Rob, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Rob, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be super fun. And you've kind of touched on this, you know, sprinkled throughout your answers, but I want to give it focus time. Tell me what the future looks like for Bread, for, you know, for what you offer, what you're going to offer and for your team.
So this will be super fun. And you've kind of touched on this, you know, sprinkled throughout your answers, but I want to give it focus time. Tell me what the future looks like for Bread, for, you know, for what you offer, what you're going to offer and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Rob. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Rob. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Rob, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit in lots of different capacities?
Okay, Rob, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit in lots of different capacities?
I really appreciate that advice. Well, Rob, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of bread.
I really appreciate that advice. Well, Rob, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of bread.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Labhart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Labhart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He really loves to make things, learn how things work, and to munch on Oreos. Eight years ago, Rob and his partner started a company called Density, allowing businesses to count the number of people in a room. After growing that business, Rob realized that he wanted to get back to building things. And after working with early businesses, he found his passion in being founders for hire.
He really loves to make things, learn how things work, and to munch on Oreos. Eight years ago, Rob and his partner started a company called Density, allowing businesses to count the number of people in a room. After growing that business, Rob realized that he wanted to get back to building things. And after working with early businesses, he found his passion in being founders for hire.
This is the creation story of Bread.
This is the creation story of Bread.
My next question will be interesting given that bread as it is right now is the MVP. So tell me about that MVP. You know, you kind of gave me origination story. Tell me maybe a little more detail on how it got started and what sort of tools you were using to bring bread to life in this MVP form.
My next question will be interesting given that bread as it is right now is the MVP. So tell me about that MVP. You know, you kind of gave me origination story. Tell me maybe a little more detail on how it got started and what sort of tools you were using to bring bread to life in this MVP form.
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Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
Whether you're growing the user adoption of your public API or streamlining internal development, SDKs can turn the chore of API integration into effortless implementation. Unburden your API users from guessing their way around your API while keeping your team focused on your product. Shorten the time to live integration and provide a delightful experience for your customers.
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate up-to-date, robust, idiomatic SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in just a matter of minutes. SDKs are feature-rich with type safety, auto-retries, and pagination. Everything you need to give your API the developer experience it deserves. Deliver a premium API experience without the premium price tag.
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So how are you going to mature and progress bread? You know, like you're in the, you know, MVP slash V1 version.
Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So how are you going to mature and progress bread? You know, like you're in the, you know, MVP slash V1 version.
I hear you saying that you've got ideas of what are next, but how are you going to go about deciding what's the next most important thing, you know, to build or to address or to automate or those things with bread?
I hear you saying that you've got ideas of what are next, but how are you going to go about deciding what's the next most important thing, you know, to build or to address or to automate or those things with bread?
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How are you going about building your team, right? You've worked with your founding team, your partners for, you've worked with them in many different capacities and different businesses. I'm curious about how you're building your team and outside of them. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
How are you going about building your team, right? You've worked with your founding team, your partners for, you've worked with them in many different capacities and different businesses. I'm curious about how you're building your team and outside of them. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Drada, Autotrader, and many more, you're in good hands. Ready to ship faster with fewer bugs? Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. This message is sponsored by SnapTrade.
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. I'm curious about scalability, right? With services and scaling, that's difficult. Scaling technology, obviously, we've got a lot of tooling out there nowadays to help us to scale.
Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. I'm curious about scalability, right? With services and scaling, that's difficult. Scaling technology, obviously, we've got a lot of tooling out there nowadays to help us to scale.
But I'm curious about how you're going about scaling bread or thinking about scalability. And do you anticipate areas where it's going to pinch, right? Where you're going to have to fight it as you grow?
But I'm curious about how you're going about scaling bread or thinking about scalability. And do you anticipate areas where it's going to pinch, right? Where you're going to have to fight it as you grow?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with P0, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with P0, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
What does the future look like for P0 security, the product and for your team?
What does the future look like for P0 security, the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Shashwat. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's switch to you, Shashwat. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Shashwat Sehgal has been in the tech industry broadly for 15 years. He started out as an engineer, but eventually worked his way towards product and the business side. Outside of tech, he enjoys spending time with his family.
Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Shashua, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of P0 security.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Shashua, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of P0 security.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He's into sports, loves to play tennis, but admits he hasn't played pickleball yet because the courts are always booked. He always enjoys reading, in particular, historical narratives and autobiographies. In his prior years, Shashwat noticed that developers spend a large amount of time securing business assets in the cloud.
He's into sports, loves to play tennis, but admits he hasn't played pickleball yet because the courts are always booked. He always enjoys reading, in particular, historical narratives and autobiographies. In his prior years, Shashwat noticed that developers spend a large amount of time securing business assets in the cloud.
He dreamt of a world where this was just an abstraction layer on top of the cloud, making it easier for developers to complete the task. This is the creation story of P0 Security.
He dreamt of a world where this was just an abstraction layer on top of the cloud, making it easier for developers to complete the task. This is the creation story of P0 Security.
So let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. There's nothing at the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. There's nothing at the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you went about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you went about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, Hoshashua Tagal is helping you secure cloud access in minutes by securing and governing all forms of cloud identity. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences.
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Developers can use the company's official client SDKs to build investing experiences in minutes without the limitations of traditional aggregators. Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. So let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting given, you know, what you've built and who you're building it for. How did you approach scalability?
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Was it built to scale from day one? Or were there areas where you had to fight it as you grew?
Was it built to scale from day one? Or were there areas where you had to fight it as you grew?
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I'm curious about teams. To make anything happen like this, you've got to have a team. You've got to have the right team. So tell me about how you have built and go about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
I'm curious about teams. To make anything happen like this, you've got to have a team. You've got to have the right team. So tell me about how you have built and go about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
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That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. I'm curious.
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far with Al, what are you most proud of?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far with Al, what are you most proud of?
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Jason Hill was born and raised in New York and post-college went back to New York and joined the financial services industry, though he was always into technology. Eventually he moved to South Florida because every time he was in New York, he couldn't wait to leave. He enjoys playing poker, pickleball, and spending time with his two kids.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Jason Hill was born and raised in New York and post-college went back to New York and joined the financial services industry, though he was always into technology. Eventually he moved to South Florida because every time he was in New York, he couldn't wait to leave. He enjoys playing poker, pickleball, and spending time with his two kids.
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Jason has been a podcaster for many years, interviewing founders and creators of new startup and tech solutions. When COVID hit, he was struck with how difficult it was to connect with individuals via audio call. He validated an idea he had, and combining his ambition and a little bit of boredom, he got a crew building a solution. This is the creation story of OwlApp.
Jason has been a podcaster for many years, interviewing founders and creators of new startup and tech solutions. When COVID hit, he was struck with how difficult it was to connect with individuals via audio call. He validated an idea he had, and combining his ambition and a little bit of boredom, he got a crew building a solution. This is the creation story of OwlApp.
Let's move forward then. And you already mentioned some of this, but I want to dig into the community aspect and the future of the platform. Tell me what the future looks like. You're, you're a couple of years in now you're, you have some traction. People are getting a lot of value out of the platform. You mentioned wanting to drive more community. Tell me about that.
Let's move forward then. And you already mentioned some of this, but I want to dig into the community aspect and the future of the platform. Tell me what the future looks like. You're, you're a couple of years in now you're, you have some traction. People are getting a lot of value out of the platform. You mentioned wanting to drive more community. Tell me about that.
And then tell me in general, what does the future look like?
And then tell me in general, what does the future look like?
Let's move on to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Let's move on to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Jason. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Last question, Jason. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Couldn't agree more. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Allap.
Couldn't agree more. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Allap.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Let's dive into what you would consider the MVP then. It sounds like right around that timeframe, when that first version, maybe this was 2021, when you started doing the building. Tell me about that MVP. What sort of tools were used to bring it to life and how long it took?
Let's dive into what you would consider the MVP then. It sounds like right around that timeframe, when that first version, maybe this was 2021, when you started doing the building. Tell me about that MVP. What sort of tools were used to bring it to life and how long it took?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
Dive into the back office decision a little bit for me. You know, there's decisions and tradeoffs you got to make when you're building MVP. It sounds like you had to put a lot of time into thinking about that back office decision. Tell me about what you had to work through in that and how you coped with it.
Dive into the back office decision a little bit for me. You know, there's decisions and tradeoffs you got to make when you're building MVP. It sounds like you had to put a lot of time into thinking about that back office decision. Tell me about what you had to work through in that and how you coped with it.
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This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
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Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Jason Hill created a way for you to connect, learn, and grow. through private one-on-one audio calls. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Jason Hill created a way for you to connect, learn, and grow. through private one-on-one audio calls. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
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You're, you're getting some traction. You're growing to some users. I'm curious about how you progress it from that point and continue to progress it and mature it. And to wrap it in a box a little bit when looking for is kind of roadmap, right? How, how do you build your roadmap and how do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address without.
You're, you're getting some traction. You're growing to some users. I'm curious about how you progress it from that point and continue to progress it and mature it. And to wrap it in a box a little bit when looking for is kind of roadmap, right? How, how do you build your roadmap and how do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address without.
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For a limited time, get $1,000 off Vanta at vanta.com slash codestory. That's V-A-N-T-A dot com slash codestory. Let's flip to scalability, and I'm curious where this has come into play. Was this built to scale or with scale in mind from the very beginning, or have there been areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Dodo Payments, for the products, for what you offer, and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Ayush. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, last question to you. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, that's great advice. Well, Yush, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Dodo Payments.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting.
Who share what it takes to change an industry.
It took many guys to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. A company is its people. The teams help each other achieve more. Most proud of our team. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how IU Sugarwall is building your gateway to global revenue by simplifying cross-border payments and all things surroundings.
This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences. With Speakeasy's platform, you can now automatically generate SDKs in 10 languages and Terraform providers in minutes. Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory and generate your first SDK for free. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf.
QA Wolf gets engineering teams to 80% automated end-to-end test coverage and helps them ship five times faster by reducing QA cycles from hours to minutes. With over 100 five-star reviews on G2 and customer testimonials from SalesLoft, Grotta, and Autotrader, you're in good hands. Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com. Ayush Agarwal is a techie trying to code his way out of things.
He graduated with a degree in computer science, but more importantly, he discovered entrepreneurship in college, inspired by his successful classmates. He spent years gathering experience in different startup verticals, including fintech. But outside of tech, he loves to play badminton, cricket, and hang out with his friends.
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He's also big into chess, which he mentioned enjoying chess.com, as well as our recent interview with their CTO, Josh Levine. When Ayush met his now co-founder, they started to think through businesses and how much goes into setting up payments, taxes, et cetera.
They started to dream about building this layer of payments to enable builders to send and receive global payments easily so they can focus on their core competencies. This is the creation story of Dodo Payments.
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to build it, how you're going to approach it. It sounds like you got the job done and you raised money, but I'm curious about those decisions and trade-offs in the product itself and how you coped with those decisions.
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And I'm curious about roadmap and what process you're following to go through that decision process of like, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Dodo Payments.
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So then I'm curious about team. You know, I hear you saying we. How did you build that team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
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So I'm curious about team, mentioning the law of constraints and then also, you know, what you mentioned about people and asking and your customers and things like that. I'm curious about how you went about building your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Focus, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So what does the future look like for Focus, the company, what you offer, and for the team?
Let's switch to you, Austin. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Austin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Austin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Focused.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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When it comes to food, he loves all of it in general, but has been drawn to Asian fusion lately. And he enjoys reading business books and sci-fi, of which Blade Runner was mentioned number one. Austin had several experiences with consulting firms where they operated under traditional land and expand models, i.e. increasing the footprint of their teams.
He felt passionate about building a services company that was designed to deprecate itself, starting with the wide world of DevOps. This is the creation story of Focused.
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So tell me about that first version of Focus. So the first thing you wanted to create where it was designed to deprecate itself and starting in the world of DevOps. Tell me about that first version. You know, I ask a lot of questions about MVPs on this podcast, but I'm curious about what you would consider the MVP, right, of Focus.
I want to dive into it a little bit deeper around more decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that, you know, early version, quote unquote, right. Of your, of your company, of what you're offering.
And I could probably chair pick a few things in there, but I want to see which one do you think was the most impactful kind of decisions or trade-off you had to make and specifically that you made it and how you went through it and how you coped with that decision.
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How did you progress and move forward? And you kind of alluded to some of this in your description of focus. But tell me about how you move forward. And, you know, maybe I would relate it to something like a roadmap or really how did you decide what was the next most important thing to address for the company?
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But scaling is important for in many different aspects, right? They're scaling the business, they're scaling the technology, they're scaling your team. How do you think about scale? And even in the early days now, have there been any areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so this is for, I'll say this is for Moolah and for your aviation company as well. As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit and I want to stick with moolah. Tell me about a mistake you've made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be exciting. It's early days, so I know there's a lot here for you. Tell me about the future for Moolah. What does it look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Jason, I have one more question for you. You're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Maybe it reflects something you just mentioned, but I'm curious where you'll take it.
Couldn't agree more with that. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Moolah.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Outside of tech and professional life, he's married with three kids and is very into all of their sports. Fun fact, his kids enjoy doing their homeschooling in the office with their dad, listening to his calls and asking big questions. So business is actually what they do for fun together. For 16 years, Jason grew and ran a business in aviation.
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So tell me about Moolah's MVP. So the first version of the product you're building, how long is it taking you to build it has taken you to build and what sort of tools are using to bring it to life?
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And, you know, there's a lot more sides that you want to release. I'm curious about how you build your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Moolah?
I'm curious about team. How would you go about building your team? I know it's early days. Maybe the team is a partner right now, or maybe there are team members. I'm curious about how you went about deciding or choosing both of those things.
And if the team is still being formed or is in the future, how are you going to build that team and what you're going to look for in those people to indicate they're winning horses?
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I'm curious about team. How did you go about building your team, and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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But to land bigger customers, you also need security compliance. And obtaining your SOC 2 or ISO 27001 certification can open those big doors. But they take time and energy pulling you away from building and shipping. And that's where Vanta comes in.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. I'm curious about, you know, where scalability comes into play, right? You've got people, right? And that's a hard thing to scale. But, you know, I hear you saying you're building some, you know, some solutions as well that probably make things faster. Probably some scalability thoughts there.
It's not like building a product where you're just throwing AWS spend at it. So tell me about that.
No, I haven't. I haven't.
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As you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Raptive, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for RapDev, for what you offer, for what you're building to support what you offer and for your team.
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Okay, Tamim, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, to me, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or starting the next big engineering services firm. They're jazzed about it. You're sitting right next to them. They can't wait to tell you about it, show it off to you on the plane. What advice do you give that person, you know, having gone down this road a bit?
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Well, that's fantastic advice. Well, Tamim, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of RapDev.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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Who share what it takes to change an industry.
It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people.
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You're providing services, but there's still like kind of that first version that you stepped out and did. Tell me about that version and what sort of tools or methods or, you know, thought processes were you using to bring it to life?
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And I'm curious about, you know, if there was any sort of quote unquote roadmap for how you shaped Raptive and how you decided what was the next most important thing to build or to address or to shape?
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So let's switch to teams. How do you go about building your team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with Neon in particular, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to hear your answer. What does the future look like for Neon as a product and for the company?
Let's switch to you, Nikita. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question, Nikita. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times?
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Nikita, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of NEON.
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Eventually he worked at Microsoft on the SQL Server product. A fun fact, Nikita quit business school on the first day and decided to join Facebook and find his future co-founder. All of this worked out and he and his co-founder built Singlestore, which is one of the highest valued companies at YC.
But outside of tech, he was a semi-professional athlete in ping pong, achieving the status of top 10 in Washington state back when he was at Microsoft. Nikita completed his tour of duty at Single Store and post that he joined a venture fund. He pitched incubating an idea of his at the fund which was rolling up all Postgres instances in the world.
He started to engineer and approach the team and the architecture and did so in some very unique and deliberate ways. This is the creation story of Neon.
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Let's dive into the MVP, so that first version of Neon you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life? I think that'll be super interesting given also what you said about Postgres.
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So there's big plans, right, for Dubai. There's big plans for how to be the hub of innovation and AI and blockchain and fintech and all the things, right? How is DIFC planning to expand its role in this innovation ecosystem, say, over the next five to 10 years?
Fantastic. Okay, a few more questions. What new programs or initiatives can we expect to see from the DIFC Innovation Hub? And I think you've touched on this again at a high level, but to attract global talent and businesses, what are some of the programs and initiatives that DFC is really going to focus on?
Last question, Mohamed. What advice would you give to startups and entrepreneurs, particularly those from outside the UAE, who are considering Dubai as a base for their operations, right? They're excited about what they're doing. They're building amazing things. And they're looking at Dubai and going, yeah, they've got everything I need. What advice do you give those folks?
Well, that's fantastic. Well, Mohamed, I really appreciate you being on the show today. It's very clear that the DIFC is a hub for innovation for Dubai. And this just adds to my understanding of all of the things that Dubai is offering to attract fantastic talent, fantastic companies and meant the next set of unicorns. So I really appreciate you being on the show today. Thank you. Thank you.
Big time thanks to Mohamed for giving us a deeper understanding of how the DIFC Innovation Hub is shaping the future of innovation in Dubai. It's clear that the DIFC is a beacon of opportunity for startups and scale-ups looking to make a global impact. As a reminder, you can check out the resources mentioned during the show by visiting the show notes.
There are links to the Dubai Blockchain Center, AI Campus, D33 Economic Agenda, and much more. And thanks again for listening.
Well, cool. I appreciate that. Let's move into our topic then. So what is the DIFC Innovation Hub and what role does it play in driving innovation in Dubai? Which is there's a lot of innovation going on. There's a lot of focus on tech and technology.
and building the next set of unicorns, and I'm just curious where the DIFC comes into play, and how did it even come to be, and what vision does it fulfill?
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For today's episode, we are speaking with Mohamed Albulushi, CEO of the DIFC Innovation Hub, a driving force behind Dubai's innovation ecosystem and a key player in empowering startups and scale-ups across the MISA region. Well, Mohamed, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for being on CodeStory. Well, thank you for having me, Noah. Absolutely.
Okay, that's fantastic. Alongside the DIFC, I'm curious if you can tell me a little bit about the Dubai AI Campus. You know, what's its mission and how does it support the development of AI-driven innovation?
I'm excited to talk about the DIFC and all the things going on there. But before we move into that topic, tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
So let's move into some practical things. So I'm an entrepreneur looking to build the next big thing in fintech plus AI, right? How does the DIFC Innovation Hub support startups and scale-ups in this space? And are there any examples that you could share of businesses that have benefited from your ecosystem?
That's super exciting. Okay, so Dubai is positioning itself as a global hub for fintech, for AI, and for innovation. How does the DIFC contribute to making this vision a reality? And I think you've said a few things that have kind of pointed to where you're going there, but I want to give space for a full answer.
Very cool. Okay, so I want to kind of... Backtrack a little bit to a question that I think is interesting, and it touches on some of the things you said about talent and visas and some of those benefits there. Is it necessary for entrepreneurs to be physically located in Dubai or in the MISA region to join the Innovation Hub and its programs?
Or are global innovators able to participate from anywhere in the world?
Excellent. I appreciate that answer. That's really good to clarify there. I want to move on to the Dubai AI license and the DIFC license. I think you may have touched on that a little bit, but what are they? Let's define what those are and how do these frameworks support entrepreneurs and businesses within the innovation ecosystem?
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I'm curious about team. You know, I hear in that description, you're talking about we. Tell me about how you built your team and what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
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Was it built with scale in mind kind of from day one or were there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, with StackHawk in particular, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Joni, this will be interesting to hear. And I always get excited to talk about the future, right, with the founders and what's next and where are you going? So tell me about that future. What does it look like for the product, for your team and for the whole company?
Let's switch to you, Joni. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Joni, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Maybe they're on their way to go to a Michelin restaurant with you and they just want to show off the thing that they have built. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane.
What advice do you want to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Joni, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of StackHawk.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Lappart, and today, how Joni Klippert built the ultimate API security testing platform for modern teams and dynamic applications. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Post getting her MBA, she built her early career in Boulder, Colorado, and became very technical, learning new technologies throughout the businesses she worked for, like VictorOps and Splunk. Outside of tech, she's married with two dogs. Her favorite thing to do is travel with her husband to visit Michelin star restaurants.
One of her favorites was called Azermendi in Spain, as it was not only delicious, but an immersive experience. Joni had been building software for engineers for a long time. At one point, she started researching the last mile of DevOps and was surprised how far this particular group was behind in regards to tooling.
She dreamt of automating the pen testing remediation process and stumbled upon an opportunity as it relates to DAST, Dynamic Application Security Testing. This is the creation story of StackHawk.
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Let's dive into the MVP of StackHawk. So that first version of the product that you and your co-founder built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. Let's move on to the goodies then. So tell me about how you have, from that point, progressed and matured the product.
To wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and how you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with StackHawk.
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But to land bigger customers, you also need security compliance. And obtaining your SOC 2 or ISO 27001 certification can open those big doors. But they take time and energy pulling you away from building and shipping. And that's where Vanta comes in.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Freeze Crowd, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's move forward then. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, the company and for your team.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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So you're getting on a plane. You're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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He's always been a gadget and tech enthusiast, growing up curious. At a young age, he could be found drawing, creating new things, and tinkering with virtual headsets. But outside of tech, he's into juggling, playing, and watching basketball. He's based in New York and has been a vegetarian since he was a kid. When he went off to college, Eric had with him picture books.
He noticed that there were key words next to each person in the book, which indicated their interests. He thought, would it be interesting if we could use this information to connect people within school? This is the creation story of Freeze Crowd.
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Let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
In that MVP, you told me you had to go back and kind of rebuild it. Tell me about the decision point because that's a hard decision to make, right? You got to work through decisions and trade-offs when you're building something or when you decide to have to go back and redo it. Tell me about those decision points and how you cope with those decisions.
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And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what we're looking for is how do you build your roadmap? How do you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with FreezeCrowd?
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I'm curious, Miri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Miri, this is going to be fun to hear your excitement in your voice. What does the future look like for Beams, for the product and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, Miri. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Miri, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Absolutely. I love that advice. Well, Mary, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Beams.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
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This was related to the different number of tools used, along with the lack of a unified view for these tools. She and her co-founder clicked on this problem and decided to build a solution. This is the creation story of Beams.
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So let's dive into the MVP then, that first version, right, that first piece of the product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and I can hear a big one, right? Of not building a backend or not having that update system and, you know, sort of trade-offs that you have to make in the early days.
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Maybe it's that, or maybe it's another one, but I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
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And to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Beams.
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And have there been any interesting stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built at Amplitude, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be interesting. It'll be actually really fun to hear your passion come through this question. What does the future look like for Amplitude, the product and for your team?
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Thomas, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, you know, we talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning of your time at Amplitude, what would you do different? Or where would you consider a different approach? It doesn't have to be a mistake. It could have been something that worked, even worked well. But maybe you'd tweak it a little bit.
Last question, Thomas. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Thomas, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling your creation story at Amplitude. You bet. Thanks for the invite. Really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
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All this and more on Codestory. I'm your host, Noah Lappard. And today, how Thomas Hansen is helping you chart your path to growth using analytics and insights to drive action. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy. Grow your API user adoption and improve engineering velocity with friction-free integration experiences.
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His real passion is windsurfing, which he started when he was 14 years old. He even engaged in the sport at the semi-professional level as a teenager. His favorite spot is in Maui, which includes all the windsurfing options you could want. He also spends an hour in the gym every morning to start the day with endorphins.
Thomas was introduced to his current venture through an early investor in the company. He met with the co-founder, Spencer, and sparks flew. There was a great fit and chemistry between them, and he was invited on board to push the company forward to new heights. This is Thomas' creation story at Amplitude.
Normally, I ask about like, tell me about the MVP of the product, right? The MVP, you know, was built kind of prior to your time. I'm curious about what was your MVP, Thomas? When you joined the company, what was your first thing that you took on and what sort of state it was in and what sort of tools you were using to get started?
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So in that, tell me about certain decisions and trade-offs you've had to make, right? You got to work through different things when you're trying to deploy something, when you're trying to take something on, you've got to work through how you're going to even approach the problem. So tell me about some of those hard ones you had to work through and how you cope with those decisions.
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And I'm curious about how you go about building a roadmap, but I'm curious about how you decide what's the next most important thing to build or to address with Amplitude.
Okay, so I hear you saying we in that description. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. And how do you and how does Amplitude decide, okay, this is the winning horse to join the team?
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Now, here's saying we tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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For a limited time, get $1,000 off Vanta at vanta.com slash codestory. That's V-A-N-T-A dot com slash codestory. Let's talk about scalability. And I'm really interested to know how you approach scalability. Even from the beginning, was it a factor in how you built the product or have there been interesting stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Crowdbotics, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Let's flip to the future then. Tell me about what the future looks like for Crowdbotics, the product and for your team.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something. You look up to and why.
On a last question, so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Anand, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Crowdbotics. Thank you so much. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. There's nothing on the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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Okay, let's dive into the MVP. And I think this would be maybe post building that data set, or maybe it's a bit of an overlap there. You decide, but I'm curious about the MVP for Crowdbotics. How long did it take to build that portion? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a second. And I hear you talking to some choices you had to make as far as technology and how you've evolved them now. But I'm curious about maybe some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through in building that first product. Could be around tech debt approach, feature limitation, all those things.
And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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And to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm really curious about is how you built your roadmap. How do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Crowdbotics?
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Was it built to scale from day one or with scale in mind, like abstractions, architecture, things like that? Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built with Checkly, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So you kind of are leading into this a little bit in the last part of your answer, but I'm curious what the future looks like, right? So you mentioned this earlier, some things that you want to go accomplish. What does that future look like for the product and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, Hannes. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Honest last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Hannes, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Checkly. Thank you for inviting me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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Let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. And there's a couple of things that you said that really kind of drives this question home. It's around decisions and tradeoffs, right? When you're building an MVP, you've got to make decisions and tradeoffs around feature cut, around how you're going to move forward, what sort of technical debt you're going to accept, all those things, right?
I'm curious about some of those you had to work through and how you cope with the decisions.
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This will be interesting. And you kind of teed it up perfectly. I'm curious about team, right? So those people that you're assigning to those 25%, the 25% signing to those lists, how do you find them? What do you look for in those people? How do you build that team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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So with the MVP, you got immediate pay. You started with an antiquated payroll, but then you started hooking up payrolls after that, pulling in feeds of information. I hear all that. What I'm curious about is how did you progress the product from there? And how did you mature it and put that kind of in a box? How did you build your roadmap?
I know the regulatory portion of it drove the initial roadmap forward. Um, but how did you decide, how did you and your team decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build?
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Let's switch to team. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Matt Pierce has been a tech guy for his entire 17-year career. Coming out of grad school, he started out in healthcare tech for a decade or so. Eventually, he started down the path of being an entrepreneur. He's married with three daughters, two in third grade and one that is two years old.
You know, I hear a lot the making sure you're a culture fit, making sure that you're mission driven, and that makes sense. But I really love the way you methodically self-reflected and self-being you or self-being the company and figured out, okay, where are our gaps? Where are our weaknesses? And let's fill roles where those areas are so that we can strengthen us as a whole.
I think that's really unique. It's an incredibly brilliant approach. So kudos on that.
Well, let's flip to scalability. And scalability can mean a lot of different things. It can mean technology, infrastructure, and even people. So did you build this thing to scale efficiently from day one, or have you been fighting this as you grow?
He mentioned the entrepreneurial dilemma of picking three of the five life choices, family, business, sleep, exercise, and friendships, and notes that his three are family, business, and sleep. After spending nights and weekends burning the midnight oil on a healthcare tech solution, Matt sat down with a prospective client and did the best pitch he'd ever done.
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Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Well, what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person that you look up to and why.
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's a great challenge. I love that. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of immediate.
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Thank you.
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Let's jump into the MVP then. So that first product you built, right? You thought on it for a month, you got the feedback, you thought on it for a month and you decided, okay, I'm going to go out and I'm going to attack this. Tell me about the first product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
You talked about choosing the antiquated payroll because that was what your first customer was using. So that's a decision and a trade-off you had to make. They're like, we're going to go target this because that's what they got.
I'm curious if any of the regulatory investigation or anything like that caused any more trade-offs and decisions that you had to make as far as how you were going to build the product.
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This will be interesting because you've done a lot in this space, but I'm really curious about, you know, if you look across all that you've built and all that you've figured out and all that you're teaching others, what are you most proud of?
Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you responded to it.
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Okay, so this will be super interesting to hear. What does the future look like for all that you offer? You've written many books, you've got courses, you're teaching, you have community that you've built. What does the future look like for all those things?
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So let's switch to you, Jonathan. What influences the way that you work? Are there any sort of methods that you follow or rituals?
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Okay, Jonathan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. Or maybe it's the next big like mindset or the next big approach to something.
Kind of like what you did with value-based pricing and ditching hourly. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit now?
Well, I can appreciate all of that. Well, Jonathan, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Ditching Hourly and JonathanStark.com.
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So this is really interesting because, you know, as we talked about, normally I ask questions around the MVP of your product, but I'm really curious about what the MVP was about this non-hourly model, right? When you stepped out and you started figuring out how to do this, what was your MVP and how long did it take you to come up with it and what sort of tools were helping you bring it to life?
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I want to dive in a little bit to, you know, you grabbed the book that was your Bible, and that's what you're using to sort of build your own framework before you did your first proposal. And you mentioned some nuances there. You had to shift towards building things. Tell me about some of those nuances.
And I suspect in those nuances, you probably had to make decisions and tradeoffs around how you're going to, you know, shift from the service-based, value-based pricing to what you were wanting to do. And tell me about some of those that you had to work through.
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I think I'm going to liken that to maybe like a, you know, a company roadmap or a product roadmap, right? Like, how did you decide it was time to do that? Or how did you decide it was time to take a next maturation step in the process for, you know, ditching hourly?
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We had talked before about team, right? And I think you have an interesting viewpoint on team. And I'd really like to hear how you view team. You know, team can be important for some things and not important for others. But tell me, tell me how you view team. Do you ever plan to add a team to help run things at JonathanStark.com? Tell me about that there.
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This will be probably a unique answer because there's a different, I think there's a different approach to this for the industry that you're in. But I'm curious about scalability. How do you go about or how did you go about scaling presence? There's people there, there's technology internal, and then there's probably tech that you're building. But I'm curious about how you approach that.
And if there's been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown.
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across what you've built and created with presence, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Let's switch to you, Eric. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Eric Mueller lives in San Francisco and explored many different paths before landing in tech. Architecture, photography, but ultimately, he settled into the creativity, building, and planning aspects of creating software. Outside of tech, he's married with one kid and a great trade-off with his wife. He does all the cooking while she does the cleaning.
Okay, last question, Eric. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur, builder, leader, engineering leader. who has created the next big thing or is about to go create the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane.
What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Eric, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story at Presence.
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He still loves photography and takes pictures regularly with his Olympus OM-1. Eleven years ago, Eric joined his current venture as a consultant, taking on projects and delivering value. He was brought on board six to seven months later and started down the path where he would lead the engineering and security arms of your partner in creating digital products.
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Normally I'm interviewing, you know, product builders, like specific product builders, and you are running a team that's building those products.
So lots of different products, but I'm curious about what was your MVP, Eric, when you joined the company, those early days, maybe it was when you were a consultant or maybe it was when you were brought on board, but what was the MVP of when you joined the company and how long did it take you to bring it to life?
With any sort of minimum product that you're building, you got to make decisions and trade-offs right around maybe how you're going to reduce scope or what is that minimum lovable piece of functionality, right? That people are going to get jazzed about.
So tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to work through either with this, you know, first MVP or mini and how you've coped with those decisions.
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What does the roadmap look like and how you decide what you do next for your digital partnership?
Okay, I'm curious about team. To do things at the caliber that Presence is doing, you have to have the right team. So tell me about how you go about building that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with distillery, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Tell me what the future looks like for Distillery, the company, the team, and where you're going.
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Let's switch to you, Andre. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
So last question, Andre, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing or the next big company with professional services. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to tell you about it. If it's a product, they can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
But outside of his professional life, he is married with two daughters. He enjoys running long distance, and he's officially run five marathons, and unofficially, he's joined many more along the way. Right after he graduated from university, Andre saw a fantastic level of talent in developing countries.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Andre, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Distillery. Thank you so much, Noah. I really appreciate your time as well. And this concludes another chapter of Coat Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
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At the same time, he noticed the amount of profitable opportunity in the United States and decided to build a business that joined the two. This is the creation story of Distillery.
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Tell me about what you would consider the MVP for Distillery, right? So I ask questions, and you build a lot of MVPs, you and your team, and I ask questions a lot about products on this show, but I'm curious about for Distillery, what would you consider that first version of your company?
What I want to dive into next is decisions and trade-offs. When you are building your company in those early days, you mentioned it kind of started right after university. You have to work through how you're going to start. Tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs you had to make and how you coped with them.
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Get started for free today by visiting snaptrade.com slash codestory. OK, so tell me about how you built your team. And, you know, I heard that the early days, some friends from uni, but, you know, a lot of time has passed and you've built this successful company. Tell me about how you've built the team. You know, it's the developers and it's the folks that are not. It's the whole company.
Tell me about what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting. Did you build this to scale efficiently from early days or with scale in mind, things like that? Or have there been interesting areas or stories where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so let's flip the script a little bit. William, tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
William, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Basket, for the product and for your team. Future is cool, man.
William Neil had an interesting childhood in New Zealand, rooted in being an entrepreneur. As a kid, he helped write business plans with his parents or build makery stuff for projects. Living this type of childhood combined with the creativity of music started a lifelong trend of building businesses and products.
Let's switch to you, William. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
William, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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He's always longed for a flexible life to keep him present for his young family and to allow for the option to travel. He loves spending time with his kids on the beach and exploring the country as a family. William and his co-founder met in a coffee shop in London. As they were chatting about prior projects, they figured out there was a lot of overlap in the things they were interested in.
Eventually, they returned and built some solutions together. And off the back of a prior wish list project, they decided to make an online shopping cart to end all others. This is the creation story of Basket.
Tell me about that MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building a roadmap and how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Baskin.
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Okay, so I'm curious about team. And I heard you mention, you know, your co founder and other folks, and then also shopping some agencies in the early days. And I'm curious if that has changed or evolved. But tell me about team. I'm curious about how you built it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun because it's early days and it's you and your co-founder. But what does the future look like for the product and for your team?
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Let's switch to you, Ro. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Ralph. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. Well, Rove, thanks for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Block Party.
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Rohith Varanasi grew up in Jersey and had a chill childhood playing video games and sports from a young age. He wanted to learn how to build a video game and upon Googling it, decided he should build a website first. And at that point, he was hooked on coding. He got into jailbreaking the PlayStation and writing real code to mod games.
Eventually, he got into hackathons and ended up building a web browser based on SMS called Cosmos, which went viral. Outside of tech, he's into paddle, loves going to the gym and hanging with his girlfriend and their one-year-old cat. Ro and his co-founder have been building a bunch of different consumer products.
The latest product they built allows people to earn in-game rewards by walking and do so in a non-deterministic way. Under the hood, they are using generative AI to create endless outcomes and optimal replayability. This is the creation story of Block Party.
So tell me about the MVP for Block Party. What did that first version of the product look and feel like? And what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
On that MVP version, when you're building any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about how you're going to approach building the solution, creating the product. So tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to work through, maybe around tech debt or approach, or like you said, you're on iOS only, kind of working through those decisions.
Tell me about how you made those and how you coped with the decisions.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you got the MVP working, right? You've got this new Gen AI library in it. The timing's great. You've up-leveled the experience and you're getting that traction. How are you going about building your roadmap of what's next, right? How are you going to mature and progress the product?
And I'm curious about how you decide what is the next most important thing to build or to address with the product?
So this will be interesting. Tell me about team. How do you go about building your team? Is it just you or do you have multiple people that you're working with? And what do you look for in those people and indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lapart. And today, how Rohith Varanasi built a way for you to explore the town. and have an adventure earn rewards all with your friends. This episode is sponsored by Speakeasy.
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. I want to flip to scalability, and this will be interesting because there's so many different ways to approach this, but I'm curious about how you approached scalability.
Was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind, maybe abstractions, things like that, or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of? And I mean with Blockparty specifically.
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with P0, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
What does the future look like for P0 security, the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Shashwat. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Shashua, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of P0 security.
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He's into sports, loves to play tennis, but admits he hasn't played pickleball yet because the courts are always booked. He always enjoys reading, in particular, historical narratives and autobiographies. In his prior years, Shashwat noticed that developers spend a large amount of time securing business assets in the cloud.
He dreamt of a world where this was just an abstraction layer on top of the cloud, making it easier for developers to complete the task. This is the creation story of P0 Security.
So let's dive into the MVP, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months of moonlighting. There's nothing at the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
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So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you went about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Was it built to scale from day one? Or were there areas where you had to fight it as you grew?
Hello, listeners. Today, we are releasing another episode for Cybersecurity Awareness Month as part of our series, The Haunted House of APIs, sponsored by our friends, Traceable. In this series, we are building awareness around APIs, their security risks, and what you can do about it.
That all makes sense to me, Richard. And I really appreciate you being on the show and explaining this because the sprawl is real.
The problem with API sprawl is showing up out in the wild and the big guys and the three-step process you're describing of admitting you have a problem, understanding that problem, and finding the right tool there to really help you with the continuous discovery documentation, automated monitoring, and taking you forward towards the next step is really, really critical.
So Richard, I appreciate you being on the show today. No, I had a blast. Truly enjoyed it. Thanks for having me. And this concludes The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers with Richard Byrd. Stay tuned for more episodes in our series, The Haunted House of APIs. And if you'd like to learn more about Traceable, go to traceable.ai. That's traceable.ai.
And thanks again for listening.
Well, awesome. Let's dive into our topic today. Again, the title is The Haunted Web, Navigating API Sprawl and Creepy Crawlers. So what is API Sprawl and why is it such a significant security challenge for organizations?
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So that's a large number of attacks of being exploited by these businesses in the last couple of years. And it makes sense what you're saying about sprawl and how sprawl isn't necessarily a technology problem. It's an operations problem. So in that operation, how do APIs become part of this sprawl?
And I think you touched on it at a high level, but I'm curious, why do security teams often lose track of these APIs?
As organizations scale and evolve, so does the complexity of their APIs. The uncontrolled expansion of APIs creates a tangled web where vulnerabilities linger in the shadows. These unseen APIs become creepy crawlers of your digital infrastructure, creeping through your systems and posing security risks.
Sure. It's fascinating that there's so many APIs out there. It's the bedrock of applications, yet there's a small percentage of people that are managing them correctly. You said a term earlier, the creepy crawlers, right? And sticking with the theme, what are they within an API ecosystem and how do they contribute to security blind spots?
That's clear. And I see the problem and how that can be obviously a major problem. And you live this space on a day-to-day basis. Can you share an example of an incident where sprawl contributed to a major breach or to a vulnerability?
Richard will discuss how unmanaged and undocumented APIs contribute to blind spots, the risks they create for organizations, and the best strategies for securing a sprawling ecosystem. Well, Richard, thank you for being on the show today. It's great to be here.
Before we jump into our topic for today, which is the haunted web, navigating API sprawl and creepy crawlers, tell me and my audience a little bit more about you.
Okay, so clearly this is a problem. It's happening. We see it happening for the big players in the space. What can we do about it? What sort of strategies or tools can organizations use to manage and secure their API ecosystems as they grow and scale? How can they keep up with this?
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Sounds like a really fun job title. And I may have just extracted this from what you said about your YouTube channel and things, but what do you do for fun?
Okay, I didn't extract that. Tell me about that.
Traceable AI is building one platform to secure every API so you can discover, protect, and test all your APIs with contextual security, enabling organizations to minimize risk and maximize the value APIs bring to their customers. Our episode today is titled The Dark Corners of APIs, Uncovering Unknown APIs Lurking in the Shadows, where we speak with Katie Paxton-Fear.
That's amazing. I have to say kudos on your pursuit of analog activities. They are so important to have a balanced approach there. You spend most of your day in the digital world. So kudos on that.
No doubt. No doubt. Couldn't agree with that more. Well, let's dive into it then. So let's start uncovering some unknown APIs. Before we even go further, can you explain, you know, as we say that, what do we mean when we say unknown APIs? And, you know, there's obviously some different types there, right? Like some words you use like shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented APIs.
That all makes sense. So why do these APIs often go unnoticed? And I'm just curious, why do they often go unnoticed and how do they become a security risk?
APIs are the gateway to your digital infrastructure, but hidden deep in the recesses of your system are unknown APIs. Shadow, rogue, zombie, and undocumented, each of these present a unique threat to your organization and can be exploited by hackers.
So a lot of autonomy for a developer. You put an API out there, you check it four years later, it's still there, right? To your example. So they're lurking in the shadows because they're sort of done and then maybe kind of forgotten. But what makes these APIs such an attractive target for attackers? And maybe even can you share an example of how one of these APIs has been exploited?
Katie is an API hacker and researcher, and today she will take us on a journey through the API graveyard, sharing best practices for ensuring that they don't become your company's next security nightmare. Katie, thank you for being on the show today.
That's very well described. You have illustrated, you know, the issue, these APIs, you know, to our title, lurking in the shadows that are unknown, but are just tantalizing to hackers. How can organizations begin to uncover these, you know, hidden APIs, these lurking APIs? And, you know, do you have any tools or strategies that you feel are effective in doing this?
I totally hear what you're saying there. These are great starting points. But if something's lurking in the shadows, it's going to be hard to find them all. And you need a plan of how to respond to that. And maybe that's part of what your answer will be in this next question. But I'm curious, in your experience, you're the guru, right? You know this world. You live this world every day.
What are some of the common mistakes that companies, organizations make to, you know, lead to these unknown APIs being created or overlooked? Like, how do they how do they get there in the first place? And maybe it's a little little bit of what, you know, you described in your four years ago example. But I'm curious, what are the common ones?
Before we jump into our topic today, which is the dark corners of APIs, uncovering unknown APIs lurking in the shadows. Super ominous. It gives me chills talking about it. Tell me a little bit about yourself. Tell me in my audience a little bit about you.
Okay, this has been a great conversation. I really appreciate you being on the show. It's very clear that these unknown APIs lurking in the shadows are a problem and are a tantalizing target for hackers. And you've illustrated some great ways to start to be proactive, but also to understand that if there's some lurking in the shadows, you're going to also have to have a reactive incident plan.
And tools like Traceable are out there solving this problem for those proactive solutions. I really appreciate you being on the show today.
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Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with DigiCode, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be interesting. Tell me what the future looks like for DigiCode and what you offer and for your team.
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Let's switch to you, Alkin. Who influences the way that you work? A person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
He eventually left tech to try some other types of businesses, but eventually returned. He has done a few early stage startups in the past, in particular in the 3D printing space before it was cool. Six years ago, he joined his current venture, but outside of tech, he enjoys traveling and is in a competition with his daughter to see how many countries he can visit.
Elkin, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person?
Having gone down this road a bit, you mentioned earlier from a startup fashion, but also in DigiCode. There is so much.
When he reads, he prefers to go back to the books he has read and enjoyed before. And being in Texas, he's a big fan of grilling out on his big green egg. As I mentioned, six years ago, Elkin joined a company that wanted to be more than a software development shop.
I appreciate that advice. Well, Elkin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story, your creation story at DigiCode.
It was a pleasure. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He and the founder of the company wanted to build a company that did more than throw bodies at a problem, but actually become a long-term partner to their clients. This is the creation story of DigiCode.
Let's dive into what you would consider, you know, the MVP when you joined the company, right? The first version of Digicode, you know, where was the company at? What you offered? How are you approaching what you offered and how you were offering it? And tell me a little bit about those early stories when you joined.
Let's dive into that. So, you know, OK, so that's the first version. Right. And and I'm I'm curious about that evolution that probably fits into what might be considered a roadmap. Right. Or how you're going about evolving that business or addressing what's important. So tell me a little bit about that.
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You know, you said you're saying we multiple times. I'm curious about how you go about building your team. Right. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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And have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Okay, let's flip to scalability then. So was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind? Or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Checkmate, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for where you're going and for your team.
He noted that this city exports some of the best tea in the world. Prior to his current venture, he was the chief marketing officer for Choi. Outside of tech, he's an avid tennis lover and follows cricket and basketball closely, though he admits now that he has a two and a half year old child, his time is mostly dedicated to him.
Let's switch to you, Vishal. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
In attempting to solve the problem of splitting the check, Vishal discovered that restaurants had a real problem with having multiple tablets for the many order and delivery services, like Grubhub, DoorDash, etc. When he saw this problem proliferate, he validated that people were willing to pay for a solution. This is the creation story of Checkmate.
Vishal, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's great advice. Well, Vishal, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Checkmate.
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Let's dive into the MVP for Checkmate. So that first version of the product that your CTO built. How long did it take to build? Which you mentioned, but tell me a little bit more there. And what sort of tools were used to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that MVP for just a minute. When building any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs. Maybe it's around feature cut, technology. You mentioned the technologies you chose, but why you chose technology or approach or acceptance of technical debt, things like that. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
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And how do you decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Checkmate?
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Okay, so I hear you saying we and talking about the company. Tell me about how you built the team, right? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun. It's early days. You are building a product that you're excited to be known for now after the pivot. Tell me about what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
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Okay, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, so last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. I certainly agree with that. Well, Icky, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Common Base.
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Hagee Riesenkamp is from a tiny country called Estonia, later studying computer science in London and doing his post-grad in Zurich. He has been into machine learning since before all of the hype it has now. Outside of technology, he dreams of being a macro-economist and spends a ton of time reading about the topic.
He lives in New York now and frequently takes in the architecture, fashion, and local art scene. Previously, Heike spent time working for a VC, eventually building a product in a completely different domain. After personally realizing that he didn't want to be known for the product he was building, he pivoted towards building something that impacted him personally as an immigrant.
This is the creation story of CommonBase.
So tell me about and this will this will be super interesting. Tell me about the MVP for CommonBase. And this is the this is the second version. Obviously, there's going to be technological overlap like we talked about. But the MVP for what CommonBase is now, how long did it take you to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, any version of a product, you have to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you're going to approach it. And I hear you saying you approached it to prove the point. Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make. Feature cut or approach or tech debt acceptance, all those things. And how you cope with those decisions.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you've got that version. You've proved the point. And I know it's still early days, but how are you maturing and progressing the product from there? And I think I'm curious about how you build your quote unquote roadmap, right?
And how do you go about deciding what is the next most important thing to build or to address?
So how do you go about or how are you going to go about building your team? What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Given all of your experience and you were doing machine learning before it's cool, right? So you've been around this space for a while. I'm curious about how you approach scalability. And I heard the tools you were using and things of that nature, but was this built to scale from day one?
Or are there interesting areas where you're fighting it as you grow?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far with Commonbase, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be really interesting to hear. Tell me about what the future looks like for Savvy Security, the product and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Guy. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And not to be a mistake, could have been something that even worked well, but maybe you tweak it a little bit.
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Guy, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it and they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Guy, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Savvy Security.
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He also plays guitar, jamming Led Zeppelin and 80s and 90s rock. After selling his past company to Symantec, he stayed on with the corporation to help existing and future companies. What he realized was that people were still misusing their identities. He observed this behavior and decided to take identity to the next level. This is the creation story of Savvy Security.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of Savvy Security. Tell me about, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life.
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How do you go about deciding that, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Savvy Security?
Now, I'm curious about team, right? Team is important to get something done as fantastic as savvy security, something built and something done. So tell me about how you built that team and what you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you.
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You built this to scale from day one, but how did you go about doing that? And even in that, were there interesting pinch points where you had to fight it as you grew?
Given everything you've told me, I'm curious, as you step out of the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Savvy Security in particular, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with bread specifically, what are you most proud of?
Rob, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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So this will be super fun. And you've kind of touched on this, you know, sprinkled throughout your answers, but I want to give it focus time. Tell me what the future looks like for Bread, for, you know, for what you offer, what you're going to offer and for your team.
Let's switch to you, Rob. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Rob, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit in lots of different capacities?
I really appreciate that advice. Well, Rob, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of bread.
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He really loves to make things, learn how things work, and to munch on Oreos. Eight years ago, Rob and his partner started a company called Density, allowing businesses to count the number of people in a room. After growing that business, Rob realized that he wanted to get back to building things. And after working with early businesses, he found his passion in being founders for hire.
This is the creation story of Bread.
My next question will be interesting given that bread as it is right now is the MVP. So tell me about that MVP. You know, you kind of gave me origination story. Tell me maybe a little more detail on how it got started and what sort of tools you were using to bring bread to life in this MVP form.
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I hear you saying that you've got ideas of what are next, but how are you going to go about deciding what's the next most important thing, you know, to build or to address or to automate or those things with bread?
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How are you going about building your team, right? You've worked with your founding team, your partners for, you've worked with them in many different capacities and different businesses. I'm curious about how you're building your team and outside of them. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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But I'm curious about how you're going about scaling bread or thinking about scalability. And do you anticipate areas where it's going to pinch, right? Where you're going to have to fight it as you grow?
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Tell me about how you went about building your team. Team is absolutely critical to make anything happen that's great in this world, especially something like Minotaur. Tell me about how you built that team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be really interesting given what you've built and where you're going, how the technological speed of the product can contribute to the success, right? So tell me about scalability.
Have you had any interesting areas where you've hit a wall and you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far with Minotaur, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. And you've already admitted to making mistakes. But I'm curious if there is one you want to highlight and how specifically you responded, you and the team responded to it.
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Okay, Sebastian, this will be fun to hear. I'm already hearing the passion in your voice for what you've built. I'm curious what the future holds. Tell me about the future for the product and for your team.
He had a crazy life growing up in social housing, having to find his way. He found inspiration from his family members who always pushed him to follow his passions. He left high school early and jumped straight away into the workforce. In 2014, he was introduced to crypto and got hooked. But outside of tech and finance, he's always been into the creative spaces, specifically music.
He likes to spend time with his fiancee, likes trying new foods, and tries to surround himself with high-quality people. Sebastian realized that the manual processes for a trader are overwhelming, along with making it difficult to be consistent. And alongside this, he saw the cycle of manual traders returning the money they made to the market. Sort of like the house always wins in casinos.
So last question, Sebastian. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. I'm curious what advice you'd give that person having gone down this road a bit.
And maybe it's similar to what you just said and how Jim inspires you. But I'm curious if there's advice you'd give them.
And that's my advice for anyone who wants to get started. That's fantastic advice. Couldn't agree more. Well, Sebastian, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Minotaur. Awesome. Thank you so much, Noah. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart.
He wanted to build something to close the gap for these traders and solve these problems. This is the creation story of Minotaur Trading Systems.
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let's dive into the MVP then. So that first version of the product, tell me how you built it, you know, what sort of tools you were using and how long it took you to bring it to life.
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I think maybe early days and now how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the most important thing to address or to build with Minotaur.
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Okay. Tell me about a mistake you made with SnapTrade and how you and your team responded to it.
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Let's switch to you, Brendan, and then maybe this is the same answer that you had on our prior recording. Tell me about who influences the way that you work.
Okay. Well, Brendan, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. Jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit multiple times in different manners?
And I'm curious if it'll be the same that you mentioned in the last podcast or it'll be something new.
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For sure. That's fantastic advice. Well, Brendan, thanks for coming back on the show and telling the creation story of SnapTrade. It's great to hear all the updates and the new product. Excited to root you on from the CodeStory sidelines.
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In August of 2021, we interviewed Brendan Wood on the podcast to tell the creation story of Passive. After the recording, the company decided to pivot into a new market, focusing on solving their biggest pain point for other platforms. They were running into the problems surrounding integrations into brokers. In fact, they were spending 80% of engineering time on integrations.
People started to reach out to his team to ask if they could use the integrations. And they started ideating about making this its own product. This is the creation story of Snap Trade.
So tell me what you would consider the MVP for SnapTrade. Tell me about that first version of SnapTrade, how long it took to build or to, you know, to bring it to life and what sort of tools you're using.
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Visit speakeasy.com slash codestory to get started and generate your first SDK for free. So you've got the MVP now. It's working. You're getting those early folks on it and you're getting some traction. How have you progressed it from that point and matured it? I'm curious about, you know, just the same with passive. How did you build your roadmap?
How did you go about deciding this is the next most important thing or integration or enhancement to add to SnapTrade?
Tell me about team. So is this the same team from passive? Have you had to expand the team? Tell me a little bit more about how have you gone about that process of ensuring you've got the right team in place?
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Okay, so as you step out on the balcony with SnapTrade and look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
But like I said, having people that are a lot smarter than me, tech went from being one of the things where I was constantly banging my head against the wall trying to figure out what was happening to literally none of that where the stress has just melted away because I know that our tech team is a lot smarter than Stephanie and I. They know how to handle anything that goes wrong.
We're also working with a new marketing group as well. And they're really helping us in terms of creating that awareness in the US. But I think with anything, you want to work with people who share a vision, have similar goals in mind, and really just are there to help evolve what you're already doing.
And like I said, I think for me, it's really important to work with people that are, A, just as passionate as I am and have the same vision in mind, but are also experts in what they do. And so we're fortunate now that we have such a wonderful team that we work with, so much great help and support.
And quite honestly, I know I could speak on behalf of Stephanie for this as well, but we're really grateful because it's really helped us focus on other elements of the business. Whereas before we were doing everything.
everything and really trying to juggle everything just the two of us now we can really focus on growing the business and we know that we have support behind us that if we need it and they're doing what they're supposed to do so it's been awesome but like anything there's going to be growing pains but we can deal with the growing pains as long as the people that we work with share the same visions and goals in mind and we're fortunate that we have such a great team
Oh, thank you. I'm excited to be here.
I think one story that I always think about was the very first person who got hired through Swab. So this would have been a few years ago. But Stephanie and I in the early days, and this was pre-COVID, would go into schools and we'd do a lot of presentations and speak to a lot of young people.
I was this high school student and they came up to us, had some questions, said they were looking for their first ever job. Like I said, a high school student. So it's about that time where you should be looking for a part-time job. This person took our information and it was funny. We found out literally like, I think a week or two later that they had applied to a job and they got hired.
Again, this was really early on. So it was, you know, we did some research and found that it was the very first ever candidate to get hired through Swab. So that was just a really cool moment. And that's something that I often think about because now there have been many people who have been hired and that's amazing. That's why we started Swab. That was the goal was to help people.
And that's always been the goal. But I think I always go back to that very first success story. And I think even that knowing that somebody was able to find employment, especially in the early days where there were a lot of ups and there were also but there was also a lot of downs. So just knowing that it actually had helped somebody, it was such a gratifying moment.
You know, we still get excited when we hear about candidates finding jobs through SWAB.
On the employer side, we built that part of the platform with employer feedback. Like we would go and meet with employers and really just try and get as much information as possible, learn things, what they like about what they're currently using, what they don't like, what they would like to see. And it was something where a lot of employers really do struggle with bringing in candidates.
Yeah, so I would say I'm a pretty regular guy. I love sports, love music, spending time with family and friends. Who doesn't? Sports is my passion. I'm a big hockey fan, love to play hockey. That's probably the number one thing that I do when I'm looking to just relieve some stress. Play guitar, that's another thing as well that I love to do in my spare time. I'm a new father.
One of the things that we've done is really made sure that we listen to the pain points that they would identify and really be in a position where we could solve those pain points. For example, one of the things we would always hear from employers is they would post their job on other sites and they were getting candidates who were from out of town or out of the country and they weren't local.
And that was a big issue for a lot of these employers because they're spending money on those candidates and it's not doing them any good. And so there was one story of a company in the US. It was a small automotive company. They were really struggling to find candidates. They were posting their jobs on other platforms and came across Swab, posted their job.
We were there to support them, made sure everything was OK. And literally within two days, they made a hire. So they within two days of posting, they received candidates and made a hire. So. As much as we get excited about candidates who find jobs through Swab, we also get excited, obviously, on the employer side when they're able to find those candidates and it actually works for them.
Because, again, we built the product for people who need the jobs, but the employers who are posting the jobs, there's no jobs without them. We really made sure that we listened to their feedback and took it seriously as well. And like I said, when somebody is able to find candidates and hire someone within two days, that seems pretty good to me.
It's never not evolving. And whenever we look at the roadmap, it's just, is it ever done? But so there's a lot of things that we're working on. Like I said, new features that we're going to introduce in the app, things that you can unlock, different educational content, even on the employer side, we're completely revamping the employer sections.
We're actually changing it where, because prior it used to be where employers would post their jobs and it would be a monthly or annual subscription. We're scrapping that. So it's going to be even easier on the employer side. It's going to be a freemium model. They can go and post their jobs for free, but if they want to boost their posting and make it more visible, they can have the option.
There are a ton of things that we're working on right now. We even did a website revamp, but I think ultimately the biggest thing Like I said, was all of the features that we can introduce are going to be awesome, but they don't mean anything if there's no jobs.
And so that's the biggest thing, too, is we're just continuing to work with new partners and really make sure that we're growing across North America and have more and more opportunities available each day.
For sure. If you're looking for a job, you can download Swab free in the App Store or Google Play. And you can also use our website to look for jobs as well. And if you're an employer who's looking to post and hire candidates, you can go to swabapp.com to get started.
Thank you very much. Really appreciate it.
My son just turned one, so... That's been an interesting year this past year. I think that I wear my heart on my sleeve. You could probably tell just based on being around me how I am or what kind of a mood I'm in. And that's yeah, that's me.
Yeah, so Swab app is a job app that we've designed to really help make the job search easy. What inspired the idea for Swab was really my own frustration while looking for jobs. I'm sure Stephanie told you this the last time when she was speaking with you, but I began looking for jobs when I was working in the marketing industry.
I was working for an agency, began getting frustrated there, and I started to look for new opportunities. And I honestly just remembered thinking to myself, there needs to be an easier way to do this. It was so unbelievably frustrating. And I'll admit at the time I was using Tinder and that's what inspired the idea.
So what Swab is, like I said, it's a job app that we've created to really simplify the job search. So if you think Tinder, but for jobs, so you put in your location, select what you're looking for. So whether it's part time, full time industries that you want to look at. And then boom, you're on your way. And it's really straightforward.
So like Tinder, if you don't want to apply to a job, swipe left. If you do want to apply, swipe right. And it's the same on the desktop as well. So we're really just trying to make that job search easy and convenient and really making sure that it isn't a difficult process.
And if you are looking for a job, that it is something that's straightforward and easy to do and not going to take so much time in doing so.
Lots has changed since you spoke with Stephanie. One of the biggest things that we've done recently is really commit ourselves into the U.S. We've been really focused in the United States now, I'd say for the better part of a year and really trying to grow our presence there. So we're still helping companies across Canada and people who are looking for jobs in Canada.
We're still supporting all of those people. But just the U.S. is really an area that we wanted to focus on pre-COVID. And then COVID happened. And that, I think, was the real push that we needed.
So right now there's over seven and a half million jobs across the platform in North America, which we're really excited about, because one of the things that one of the one of the bits of feedback or criticism that we used to hear was really cool app, not a lot of jobs in certain areas where big cities like Toronto or Chicago or New York would be loaded with jobs.
It was the smaller towns that maybe didn't have a bunch. And now that there are seven and a half million jobs on the platform, there are jobs everywhere. So that experience for a job seeker has just been elevated due to the simple fact that there's so much opportunity available.
The app has evolved a ton since you would have spoken with Stephanie, but at its core, it's still doing what we initially set out for it to do, which is help people find jobs. And now we're just showing more and more opportunities for people. We're working with a new team in terms of our developers and our tech side. So our CTO and our developers are just, they're amazing.
I don't have a technical background. And so having people who are so knowledgeable and such experts in this area makes it so easy for me. Our CTO, for example, is a former Google executive. He was a co-creator of YouTube TV.
And just knowing that somebody like that is on our team who shares the vision and really has the same kind of goal in mind, it just takes off so much stress and it's such a relief.
And so what we're doing now, what we want to hope or what we hope to continue to do is obviously just support people in their job search, continue to grow the platform in terms of making sure there are more and more opportunities and really introducing things that are going to help people on their job search.
Because one of the things that we're also doing now is really making a lot of educational content and really trying to go above and beyond in terms of how we're helping people in their job search outside of just providing them a platform with opportunities to look for. It's unfortunate, but a lot of people really struggle, especially younger people really struggle in their job search.
especially when it comes to things like resume building or communication with an employer, that type of etiquette, how to communicate, what to do beyond an interview, how to prep for an interview.
So those are a lot of things that we're starting to introduce as well, which are really going to help more people because a lot of people, unfortunately, miss out on opportunities because of silly things. And if we can help fix that, it's just another way that we're helping people out in their job search.
Yeah, so it's funny you ask because that's something that is just always ongoing. And I think for us, one of the biggest things that we really wanted to solve and make sure that we were doing was providing ample opportunity on the app and on the website. Because that was a bit of feedback that we heard early on was remote areas don't necessarily have the most jobs.
And there are people who struggle in those areas who need jobs and who can't find jobs. And so now that was one thing that we really wanted to prioritize and really make an emphasis on improving. So the fact that we were able to hit seven and a half million jobs and the number of jobs is growing was priority one for us.
That at its core was something we really wanted to do and make sure that whatever we were doing in the background, whatever updates or new tweaks we were making, there would always be jobs there. So we're really proud and excited of the fact that there are that many jobs available right now.
It just makes the experience so much easier and it provides the user a lot of opportunities that they maybe don't find on other platforms or maybe they don't even know exists. We're also, like I said, introducing more educational content and things that we're going to have behind paywalls and different features in the app that we're going to introduce.
And it's funny, like our product roadmap, I feel like it's always evolving. And one of the nice things about having a former Google executive as our CTO now is the amount of ideas and outside the box thinking that they bring. It's amazing. And so right now, like I said, the biggest thing was making sure that there were jobs on the platform.
And now that we have the jobs and the number is continuing to grow, there's so many other things that we're going to be working on and introduce in the background. But I think that was the biggest thing, making sure that the jobs were there.
Definitely part of that. Again, I think what inspired that part of it is a lot of people struggle. It's easy to go onto a platform, whether it's Swab or another site, and look for jobs and apply. But beyond that, if you struggle or don't really know what to do in terms of next steps... you're just going to get weeded out.
It's unfortunate because we've seen it so many times and we've seen so many opportunities and so many cases where somebody didn't get a job or didn't get a second interview or whatever it is because of silly mistakes. And so what might seem obvious to you and I when searching for jobs or communicating with a potential employer, it's not so obvious to a lot of people.
And so that was just something where we thought we really, we want to make sure that candidates and people that are on our platform have access to opportunities, but we want to make sure that they're actually getting, taking advantage of the opportunities and getting in those doors.
So that was something that was really important to us was to really make sure that if people are struggling, that beyond the job opportunities that are shown on SWAB, we're offering resources to also help you in that journey and really help you feel confident when you're applying to those jobs. Because we've also seen a lot of people who
afraid to apply to jobs and because they don't know how to handle if an employer reaches out or calls them for an initial phone interview. And so if we can just help those individuals feel that much more prepared and confident, that's the biggest thing. So really making sure that when you're on swab, you're finding those opportunities, but you're actually landing those opportunities as well.
Yeah, so that was an awesome experience. So in 2018, we were actually named the first ever Canadian company to win Richard Branson's Pitch to Rich contest. In the early days of Swab, Stephanie and I used to do a lot of pitch competitions and get involved in as many contests or competitions that we could.
Because for us, we just thought it could be an opportunity to win money and really put that back into the business and help us. And so that was something that I had come across. There was an application process for it. I thought, hey, what do we have to lose? Why not? So I submitted the application and I'm not sure, maybe a month or so went by, found out that we were a finalist.
We had to do a one minute video pitch to Richard Branson that he would personally view and found out a couple of days later that we had won. And honestly, like even talking about it now, When I think about that, it was so surreal getting that phone call saying that we had won.
And honestly, it was so humbling to know that an idea that we had, the risk that we took to start this idea was validated by somebody like Richard Branson. So it was truly humbling for me and for Stephanie as well. It was such an awesome experience. We actually got flown out to Calgary and got to spend some time with Richard. We went to an event with him and it was awesome.
We had so much fun and really got to pick his brain. And like I said, just knowing that he was the one to personally select us as the winners, it truly was humbling.
It's a good question. And that's one thing where I'm grateful we have a CTO with the type of knowledge that he has and the team that we have in terms of our tech support or our technical side. I think with anything, there's always hiccups or hurdles along the way. And in this case, it's no different. Things are always crashing. Things always go wrong.
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So I'm just going to I'm going to ask it kind of blindly and just hear what you have to say. Was this built to scale from from day one or is there are there areas where you've had to fight this as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with LightSpark. What are you most proud of?
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to ask and, you know, anything about the Coinbase integration and choice there and just your clear passion for the space. Tell me what the future looks like for LightSpark, the product, and for your team.
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Let's switch to you, Kevin. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Kevin. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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That's fantastic advice. Well, Kevin, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of LightSpark. Thank you. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
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Outside of tech, he spends his free time with his fiancée, planning for the wedding and visiting Manhattan Beach for a good walk. Kevin was part of the team that attempted to launch crypto at Facebook. Although that didn't work out, they realized that the backbone of the system needed to be built on something more common and something that was lightning fast.
This is the creation story of LightSpark.
Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting for that first version of LightSpark that you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
In building that MVP, and you touched on some of these in a high level, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that first version, right? And maybe it was something you learned, or maybe it was some hard decision you had to make as far as how you were going to approach it, what you were going to prove, all those sorts of things.
Maybe dive in a little more to some of those decisions and trade-offs and how you coped with them.
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I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about and how do you still go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with LightSpark.
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So I'm curious, you said we a few times, and I'm curious about how you went about building your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Now you have Vector Search. You're fueling this local replica process. Where do you take this next? This is already an incredibly powerful platform, but where do you take this next? Where do you see this going?
Awesome. I appreciate that. I want to dive into the SDK portion because you're right. It's super fragmented. There's all kinds of things that you would need to support. How do you choose what is the most important SDK to go make sure is perfect? And how do you go about deciding if you're going to add new ones?
Makes sense, totally makes sense. And it is a struggle. There's so much out there. Okay, so I'm a developer. I'm building this really cool product and I wanna be able to use SQLite. I wanna be able to use something like Terso where I can remotely update my databases, but on the device itself, I want to be able to do the vector search. I wanna be able to have the embedded replica.
I wanna essentially be able to process data in a fast way on my local device. How do I get started using Terso? What do I need to do?
Fantastic. Well, Pekka, I really appreciate you being on the show today and giving the update on Terso. done some really amazing things with the things that you're calling, quote unquote, boring with multi-tenancy and embedded replicas.
But the vector search capabilities that are on device and being able to power that fast data retrieval and remote syncing with your edge network is really, really fantastic and fascinating. Really appreciate you being on the show, giving the update. Cool. Thank you for having me. Incredible.
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Remind my audience what Terso is. So you gave the high level of your founder of Terso and bringing more lows to SQLite. But tell me and the audience a bit of a reminder of what Terso really is.
Tell me about some of the maybe the success stories of the customers. What are they doing with Terso and how have they found success with bringing that into production?
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Okay, so tell me the update. We talked about a few things before recording the episode, but I'm curious about what has gone on with Terso. What have you built? What have you shipped to the world? And what has been the big changes with the product?
Okay, so I want to dig into the boring part before I get into the not boring part with the vector search. So from an engineering standpoint, I couldn't imagine multi-tenancy and all the things you're working on or worked on there was boring. But tell me why that's important. Why is it important for multi-tenancy for your customers?
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Give me some use cases of the vector search. What drove you to that?
Well, today I have another special guest on the Code Story podcast, Pekka Enberg of Terso. Pekka, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you.
Yeah, wow. So that's really interesting. You can pull data essentially from within the client itself, whether it be mobile device, and we're talking about mobile devices, eventually, maybe it could be browsers or something like that. But a client, you don't have to go to a server itself to do the heavy computing. How did you figure that out? Because that's not a small thing.
Usually, you're reliant on the power of the device, right? So if you're using a weak device, it's not going to work very well. Tell me about that.
Absolutely. You know, recently we had your partner Glauber on the podcast to tell us about the creation, the inception story of Terso. But we're going to dive into a bit of an update of the things you've been working on. But before we do, tell me a little bit about you.
No doubt. It's a really smart way to solve that problem, right, of the local replica, the being able to vector search on the device while still, you know, or eventually syncing, right, to your edge network, to your remote databases. This message is sponsored by QA Wolf. If slow QA processes bottleneck your software engineering team and you're releasing slower because of it, you need a solution.
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Or has there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, let's move forward then. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with SEMA, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be super interesting. I can tell the passion you have for the product you've built and for the folks you're serving. I'm curious what the future looks like. So tell me about the future for SEMA, for the product and for your team.
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Well, Matt, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? I'm a person or many persons or something you look up to and why?
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Last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and they can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today, and thank you for telling the creation story of SEMA.
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He likes to run, play Ultimate Frisbee, and has a wicked cool collection of minor league baseball hats. Sitting in a room with the head of sales, Matt noticed that there were systems like Salesforce that were built to assess the state and future opportunity for business. He then thought, where are these systems for the code itself? This is the creation story of SEMA.
So tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Let's stay on that first version of the first product. When building any sort of product, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-off, right? And in those eight months, you... You built it and you were doing research and you were trying to figure out, you know, exactly how you wanted to do it.
And you probably had to make those trade-offs as far as approach or technical debt or how you were going to solve the problem. Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with the decisions.
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So you mentioned, you know, multiple MVPs. Tell me about the next MVP then. How did you get there? And then tell me about that inception process there.
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I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap and how did you go about deciding or still go about deciding this is the next most important thing to build or to address with SEMA?
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So I hear you talking about we, and you've mentioned values and, and things of that nature. I'm curious about how you built your team. How did you go about deciding, you know, what did you look for in these people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. And I know there's scalability issues and things like that we already talked about, but less about growing pains and more about a mistake.
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Let's switch to you, Anurag. So tell me who influences the way that you work. Tell me about a person or many persons or something that influences the way you work on a day-to-day basis.
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I think that's fantastic advice. So, Hanirat, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Render. Thank you.
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He also enjoys eating Thai food on the regular, though he mentioned he could eat pizza every day. Post leaving Stripe, Anurag decided to work on an ambitious problem. And he started doing this by building a bunch of stuff in many different domains.
After noticing a common problem in building out Kubernetes, he decided to start a new business to abstract these problems and allow builders to focus on the differentiating factors of their solutions. This is the creation story of Render.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Tell me about that process you went through in building that. You still got to make certain decisions and trade-offs and deciding on what you choose. So I heard you choosing Python because that was your language of choice. Tell me a little bit more about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in that early version and how you cope the decisions.
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And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you go about building your roadmap and then and now? And what criteria are you using to decide, OK, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Renderer?
I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
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Join the Wolfpack at QAwolf.com to see if they can help you squash the QA bottleneck. Let's flip to scalability, and this will be interesting given who you're serving and how opinionated they are. I'm curious about scale. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown? It's definitely been a challenge.
Okay, Sagar. So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit, Sagar. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be super fun. Tell me what the future looks like for the product, for the Speakeasy product and product suites and for your team.
He has always been interested in how things work and majored in physics at his university. Towards the end of his studies, he crammed in a ton of computer science classes and fell in love with the craft. He's worked on firmware, enterprise software, and eventually went to LiveRamp, building new experiences for them.
Let's switch to you, Sagar. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Sagar, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
But outside of tech, he loves pickleball, enjoys growing coffee, and loves reading about historical events. In the past, Sagar and his team took on an API initiative to invest in internal API development experience. Through this project, he spent a lot of time thinking about how to make this happen.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sagar, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Speakeasy.
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Tell me about the MVP. And this will be interesting to know where you start. Maybe it's a little bit, you know, in when you were spending that time and thought prior to starting Speakeasy or it could be started at the Speakeasy point. You tell me about the MVP, that first version of the product you built, how long it took to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
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Let's stay on that for a minute. And you're kind of touching on some of these at a high level, but tell me about some of the decisions and trade-offs you had to make in those early days with that MVP. And it could be technical debt or feature approach, things like that. Dive into some of those and specifically how you coped with them.
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How do you, how did you go about building a roadmap and how do you do that today? And what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with speakeasy.
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So I'm curious about team. How do you go about building your team? How did you go about building your team? And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
Mark joined the board of MongoDB in 2019. What got him excited about the company was the world-changing nature of the product, so much so that he asked to step off the board to be CTO and carry the banner to the developer community about the power of their doc-based distributed system performing database transactions. This is Mark's story with MongoDB.
Let me flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Well, Mark, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person you look up to and why.
Well, we talked about a mistake earlier, but maybe a little bit different spin on the question. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
That's an awesome answer. And I really like the part at the very end that makes a ton of sense. You're taking different directions all the time because your leaders are listening to your people.
Well, Mark, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Fantastic advice. Well, Mark, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling your creation story and start at MongoDB.
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Tell me about what would be your MVP, Mark. So when you joined Mongo, what was the MVP or what was the product you took on, the state of the company? Tell me a little bit about that.
So as you're getting that message out to the world and as you're carrying the banner, I hear that you stepped off the board to be CTO. You're super excited about Mongo. In that process and in the process of advancing Mongo, you gotta make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you can do in the short term versus what you have to cut right then.
So tell me about some of those things in terms of your involvement with Mongo and how you coped with those decisions.
So from the point of starting and then progressing the product and your mission, how have you gone about that? I think what would be the most interesting thing in that is how you built your roadmap or approach or how you decided this is the next most important thing to address to enable developers to make those decisions.
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Well, speaking of that team, tell me about your team and how you went about building it. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
It makes a ton of sense. And that speedy consensus, makes also a ton of sense almost like the the speed of there's a little bit of alignment with speed of trust but i haven't heard exactly put that way that's really that's really interesting
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So it's interesting segue. Actually, it's a perfect segue. How you approached Mongo when you started and you set out to enable developers, you know, tell me about how you think about scalability or how the company thinks about scalability or how the approach to what you did. But was it built to scale or was it executed on scale efficiently from day one?
Or have you been fighting this and changing as you gain traction?
Well, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Okay, this will be fun to ask. What's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Well, let's switch to you, Igor. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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We talked about a mistake earlier, but this is a little different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do different? Where would you consider taking a different approach? And I heard part of your answer, you're like, if I could go back, I would do that differently. But perhaps this one is something that maybe worked, but you'd tweak it a little bit.
Okay, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's great advice. Miguel, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Unleash.
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Okay, let's dive into the MVP then. So the first product you built. You've had lots of conversations, and then you went about building the first product. product. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
So during that time, and maybe a little bit in that year, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around feature cut, tech debt, things like that that you're building. Tell me about some of those decisions that you had to make and how you coped with those decisions.
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Let's switch to team then. So tell me about how you built your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting, you know, given the product that you're building and how you've gone about it in the story so far, tell me about scalability and how you approached it from the beginning. Was it built with scale in mind from day one, or did you fight this as you grew and gained traction?
Okay, so as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
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Well, let's flip the script a little bit. So tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Eventually, he met a company that was an artificial intelligence consultancy, which had a POC around skill assessments. They wanted to start up a separate company to support and launch this POC. This is when Matt got involved. This is the creation story of QuantHub.
This will be fun to ask. I always love to hear the answer from my guest. What does the future look like for QuantHub, the product, and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Matt. Who influences the way that you work? Name a CEO, CTO, architect, really any person that you look up to and why.
We talked about a mistake, but a little bit different spin. If you could go back to the beginning, what would you do differently? Or where would you consider taking a different approach?
Well, last question, Matt. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. Can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's great advice. Well, Matt, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of QuantHub.
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Tell me about the MVP. So tell me about that first product you built. How long did it take you to build and what sort of tools did you and your team use to bring it to life?
So with any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs about what you're going to cut in the short term or what you're going to include in the short term and what sort of technical debt you're going to take on or even approach debt. If that's a term, I may have just made that up. But tell me about some of those decisions and trade-offs that you made and how you coped with them.
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So from that point, you've got your MVP built. How did you progress it? How did you mature it? And to give kind of context to where I'm going with that question, how did you build your roadmap and decide, okay, now this is the next most important thing to build?
Well, let's switch to team. So how did you go about building your team and what did you look for in those people to indicate that they were the winning horses to join you?
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Let's flip to scalability. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one, or were you fighting this as you grow?
So you're kind of. growing with your growth, right? You're campus recruiting, you're hitting some scale issues, you're fixing them, your campus recruiting, scale issues, fixing them, and you're growing as you need to sort of just in time.
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So did you build this to scale efficiently from day one? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to hear the passion in your voice and the excitement. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
Prince Ghosh was born in Bangalore, India, and moved around a lot during his life, to the US, then to Europe, then back to the US, but he spent his formative years in Princeton, New Jersey. He majored in mechanical and aerospace engineering as he wanted to build planes and engines. Eventually, he fell out of love with building planes and became obsessed with supply chain tech.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work, Brent? Name a person or many persons or something that you look up to and why.
Outside of technology, he's a tennis player, occasionally playing basketball, and is an avid reader. He's enthusiastic about tech, the economy, and of course, the supply chain. Prior to his current venture, Prince started Workbench while his co-founders created an agency, which was more like an operations company in a box.
Okay, so last question, Brent. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
When they started working together, they realized there was a large opportunity to combine forces and simplify quality control. This is the creation story of Factored Quality.
Couldn't agree more. That's fantastic advice. Well, Prince, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Factor Quality. Awesome. Thanks so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
So tell me about what would be the MVP for factored quality. So it's really interesting with Workbench and then Doris, what did the MVP look like? How long did it take you to bring to life and what sort of tools were you using?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, Mike.
Let's dive into, you know, decisions and trade-offs, right? And you're talking about the decision for what determines our success, you know, and you kind of touched on it at high level, but dive into making that decision. You know, that comes with trade-offs, that comes with acceptance of starting out limitations or things like that.
And it's kind of unique given, you know, the combination of the two entities there, but I'm curious about decisions and trade-offs. And I'm really curious about how you coach with those decisions too. Yeah.
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administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with Kiteworks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with Kiteworks. Visit kiteworks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. Let's move forward then.
So you have that early version of the product. You figured out what success looks like. You say you're gaining some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product and the company from there. And to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap?
How did you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Factor Quality?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
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So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
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For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Okay, let's flip to scalability. And this will be this will be interesting. You have a lot of experience with with big companies, you know, like Uber.
And I'm curious, did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or scale in mind, obviously abstractions and things or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be fun. Tell me what the future looks like for Cortex, the product, of course, but also for your team.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Anishtar grew up in the Bay Area, but now is located in New York. He felt lucky to be surrounded by technology, being in the Bay Area and having his dad as a software engineer. His earliest exposure to tech was hacking his Wii, and at that point he was hooked. He eventually joined Uber and experienced many of the problems he is solving today.
Let's switch to you, Anish. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Anish. So you're getting on a plane and sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Anish, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Cortex. Thank you so much for having me. And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review.
But outside of tech, he enjoys tennis and playing piano. He loves making music and attending shows to hear other artists, in particular EDM. While he was at Uber, Anish noticed that the company was a prime example of microservices gone wrong. Developers were going outside of standards, building services, not documenting them properly.
Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He realized that every company he talked to had the same problem of service cataloging, and he felt confident to take the challenge on and apply to YC. This is the creation story of Cortex.
Tell me about the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools did you use to bring it to life?
Stay in that era for a minute. You know, with any MVP, you got to build things with certain trade-offs in mind. You got to make certain decisions and trade-offs, right? You kind of touched it in a high level.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Maybe dig into one or two of around, you know, feature cut or approach or technical debt acceptance or, you know, building that MVP to just prove that the model is going to work, prove that the problem is there to solve. Tell me a little bit more about those decisions and trade-offs. And I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
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Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email. administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure?
The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in.
CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5-terabyte CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right, free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. You've made those decisions. You've got the MVP. You're getting some traction. Tell me about how you progressed and matured the product from there.
Took off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lapart. And today, how Anishtar has built the best internal developer portal, eliminating developer tax and paving paths to production. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
And, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm curious about is how you built your roadmap and how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Cortex.
I hear you talking about we and us. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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So as you step out on the balcony, in particular, or when it comes to Witness AI, when you step out on the balcony, look across all that you've built thus far, what are you most proud of?
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Okay, let's flip the script a little bit, Rick. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Tell me what the future looks like for Witness AI, the product and for your team. I know it's early days. So what is the vision? Cast it out there.
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Let's switch to you, Rick. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Rick, last question. So you're getting on a plane, and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it, but can't wait to show it off to the world, and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person, having gone down this road a bit many, many times?
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Rick Katja was born and raised in Silicon Valley and just stayed. He's married with two teenage daughters, one about to go to college. Between him and his wife, they have worked in 13 different startups. So you could say they have a startup family through and through.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Rick, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Witness AI. Thanks, Noah. It's a pleasure to be here. And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice.
And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Outside of tech, he's a cyclist in the bike club and enjoys spending time with his family. After speaking with a number of security officers at companies, Rick realized the enterprise situation with AI. Most companies are stuck trying to figure out how to enable their employees to use new tooling while still maintaining the level of security and control they have over data.
Rick was asked to join a founding team to solve this problem. This is the creation story of Witness AI.
Let's dive into the MVP. So tell me about that first version of Witness AI. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. Let's dive into maybe a decision or trade-off you had to make in building that first version, right? It could be around approach, feature cut or limitation, technical debt acceptance, all those things, right? Tell me about some of those you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
This episode is sponsored by Kiteworks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Okay, so then you've got your MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. Tell me about how you have progressed and matured the product.
I know it's early, but there's still a process that you have to go through in figuring out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Witness AI, you know, around roadmap and things like that. So tell me about how you go about it.
I'm curious about team, right? You know this intimately after going through so many startups in your career, how important team is, right? So how did you build that team and what are you looking for in those people to indicate they're the winning horses to join you?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Laphart, and today, how Rick Katcha is enabling safe and effective AI through security and governance for the enterprise. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be interesting given there's two sides to Formidium. I'm curious about scalability and I'm just going to ask it sort of plainly and let you take it away.
Was Formidium built to scale from day one, either from a product perspective or from a services perspective? Or have there been areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you have built with Formidium. What are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
So this will be super fun to hear the passion in your voice, the excitement. What does the future look like for Formidium, the product side, the service side, and for your whole team?
Shaolin Madan immigrated to the U.S. when he was six years old. He spent 20 years in the financial markets, of which he got into when he was a teenager. His first and best memory of the industry is when Netscape IPO'd and the stock went up 300% in the first day. Outside of finance and tech, he enjoys cooking, frequents the gym, and loves to travel.
OK, I want to switch to you, Sheldon. Tell me who influences the way that you work. Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Shalen. So you're getting on a plane. And you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sheldon, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Formidium.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
He's also a learner, studying philosophy, relationships, and of course, the macro economy. Shallon found himself frustrated with working for others, which drove him into entrepreneurship. When he came across his current venture as a client, he invested in the firm, became part of it, and eventually became the last co-founder in a company administrating funds with cutting-edge technology.
This is the creation story of Formidium.
Let's dive into what you would consider either the company's MVP or your MVP at the company, right? So that first version of either the product or the product as you knew it when you came in and became that co-founder. Tell me about what sort of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it took you to conceive it.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. Nothing on the back end. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
You kind of dove into a couple here, but I want to maybe settle into a decision or trade-off you had to make in the early days in building for Medium. It could be around approach, and I think you mentioned some of the things there. It could be around acceptance and where you start. Tell me, dive in a little bit more into maybe decisions, trade-offs you had to make.
And specifically, I'm curious about how you coped with those decisions.
This episode is sponsored by Cashfly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and emails.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. let's move forward, right?
You've got, you've got the product as an entrepreneur. You've, you've got it. You, you see the vision moving forward. You've got a little bit of traction. Maybe tell me about how you progress the product and matured it. And I think to wrap it in a box a little bit, you know, and I know there's, there's two sides here. There's technology and services.
I'm curious about roadmap and how those things sort of interplay there in the roadmap and how you go about deciding, okay, this is the main, Next most important thing to build or to address with Formidio.
i think that has been vitally important in terms of accelerating our goals around automation so so i hear you talking about we and and how we do these things tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you so we have a a fairly distributed team globally
All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Laphart. And today, how Shaolin Madan is building premier fund management by delivering services through superior technology. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. So this will be super interesting.
Given what you've built and who you're building it for, I'm curious about scalability, right? You know, obviously you build for scale the best you can in the beginning with abstractions and things. And I'm curious, did you approach it that way from day one or have there been interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far. What are you most proud of?
The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it. I know you mentioned the scalability mistake, and maybe it's that one and you want to dig in more, or maybe it's a different one.
So this will be fun, Conrad. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you, Conrad. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Konrad Nibiec lives in San Francisco. He's very close to his family, of which his parents are Polish immigrants. He started coding when he was 11 while working for his dad.
Last question, Conrad. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. And can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Conrad, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Lecko.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
His core values are curiosity and community, which drives a lot of what he does outside of tech. He likes to learn other things, and his current hobby set includes surfing and spikeball, of which he's working on perfecting his spin serve. Conrad worked at Uber on the self-driving team. After a few years, he wanted to be less of a cog in the machine and joined a small startup.
He introduced a feature flagging platform and quickly realized how fast configuration bloat appeared in the platform. He also realized how dynamic configuration could take the platform beyond the limits of feature flags. This is the creation story of Lekko.
Let's dive into the MVP of Leko, that first version of the product you built. How long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, mind you.
Let's stay on that version or that MVP, the first one. Those decisions and trade-offs you had to make when you were building those, right? They're hard. You gotta really dig in and figure out what you're gonna focus on, how you're gonna approach the problem and all those sorts of things. So tell me about some of those you had to work through in this first version and how you coped with them.
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Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
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That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. So then from that point, right, you start to progress forward.
And I think this is where the next MVP sort of introduces itself. And I think that's part of the progression of the product. So tell me about that MVP version two and also how you went about deciding that this was the most appropriate thing to do next. And, you know, to wrap in a box a little bit, kind of roadmap building.
How do you go about deciding as a company that this is the next most important thing to build or to address for Lecko?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
You know, I hear I hear you talking about or I hear you saying we write. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they are the winning horses to join you?
All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Lappart. And today, how Conrad Nimitz built you a way to ship faster. with no redeploys and no mistakes. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner.
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, Catchfly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5 terabyte CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right, free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory.
Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks.
I'm curious about teams. To make anything happen like this, you've got to have a team. You've got to have the right team. So tell me about how you have built and go about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. I'm curious.
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built thus far with Al, what are you most proud of?
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Jason Hill was born and raised in New York and post-college went back to New York and joined the financial services industry, though he was always into technology. Eventually he moved to South Florida because every time he was in New York, he couldn't wait to leave. He enjoys playing poker, pickleball, and spending time with his two kids.
Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Jason has been a podcaster for many years, interviewing founders and creators of new startup and tech solutions. When COVID hit, he was struck with how difficult it was to connect with individuals via audio call. He validated an idea he had, and combining his ambition and a little bit of boredom, he got a crew building a solution. This is the creation story of OwlApp.
Let's move forward then. And you already mentioned some of this, but I want to dig into the community aspect and the future of the platform. Tell me what the future looks like. You're, you're a couple of years in now you're, you have some traction. People are getting a lot of value out of the platform. You mentioned wanting to drive more community. Tell me about that.
And then tell me in general, what does the future look like?
Let's move on to you, Jason. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Last question, Jason. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world. They can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
Couldn't agree more. Well, Jason, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Allap.
And this concludes another chapter of CodeStory. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Let's dive into what you would consider the MVP then. It sounds like right around that timeframe, when that first version, maybe this was 2021, when you started doing the building. Tell me about that MVP. What sort of tools were used to bring it to life and how long it took?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve, my dear.
Dive into the back office decision a little bit for me. You know, there's decisions and tradeoffs you got to make when you're building MVP. It sounds like you had to put a lot of time into thinking about that back office decision. Tell me about what you had to work through in that and how you coped with it.
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Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Jason Hill created a way for you to connect, learn, and grow. through private one-on-one audio calls. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. So then you've, you've got the MVP. It's you're you've built it.
You're, you're getting some traction. You're growing to some users. I'm curious about how you progress it from that point and continue to progress it and mature it. And to wrap it in a box a little bit when looking for is kind of roadmap, right? How, how do you build your roadmap and how do you go about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address without.
Obviously to do something of this caliber, you have to have the right team in place. And I'm curious about how you have gone about and how you're going about building your team. And what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Hello. Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be super fun. Given, you know, your experience and building all kinds of great stuff, building Chef and what you're diving into with System Initiative, I'm curious about scalability.
And, you know, I'm sure that everything was built to scale from day one and with scale in mind, all those sorts of things. But I'm curious if there's any pinch points that were really hard or interesting around scale that you had to fight through.
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Adam Jacob grew up in Vancouver, but now lives north of San Francisco. He's married with a teenage daughter and grew up in the era of the internet that was bulletin-based.
So as you step out on the balcony, you look across all that you've built with System Initiative, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun to ask. What does the future look like for System Initiative, for the product and for your team?
He likes music, specifically heavy metal. He was raised on 80s hair metal, but also enjoys modern and Swedish metal, of which your host is very familiar. He also loves cats and at one point had a bangle, which is a cross between a tiger and a domestic cat.
OK, Adam, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Previously, Adam was a key contributor at Chef and has spent many years building a successful platform, extending DevOps value with automated security and compliance.
Okay, you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
He and his now co-founder reached the limits of what could be achieved using conventional approaches in the space and decided to build a new tool to enable engineers to tackle complex infra and app management without compromising control. This is the creation story of System Initiative.
That's fantastic advice. Well, Adam, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of System Initiative.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
the way that people who build video games think about stuff like unreal right so it's more like an engine that sits on top of all the data and then we use that data to then drive change into the world tell me about the mvp this will be interesting to hear where you start in this how long did it take to build what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life you know that first version right of system initiative
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who built the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. The stories you don't read in the headlines. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. It's not just about technology. All this and more on CodeStory. I'm your host, Noah Labpart.
In making some of those decisions and how you went about building it and then rebuilding it, you know, a few times, tell me about maybe a hard trade-off you had to make, you know, and how you coped with the decision. You know, it could have been around approach, positioning, you know, acceptance of any sort of debt maybe or anything like that.
But tell me about some of those you had to work through.
This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. You're at the point now where you're bringing people onto the platform... How are you planning to progress and mature it? I think the best backbone for that question is around roadmap.
How do you go about deciding what's the next most important thing to build or to address with system initiative?
And today, how Adam Jacob is building a collaborative power tool for DevOps to remove the paper cuts and automate intelligently. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk. With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner.
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Meister, what are you most proud of?
With KiteWorks MFT, companies can send automated or ad hoc files in a fully integrated, highly secure manner. The solution is FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense and has been so since 2017. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery.
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun. Let's dig into the future. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
give me advice when i was growing up so yeah it's definitely my family okay berkey last question so you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing they're jazzed about it they can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane what advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit
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And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Berkay Atatürk is originally from Turkey, but now lives in Germany. He loves to travel, and living in Germany allows him to be close to family, but enables him to live a nomadic life. He split his college time in Turkey and America, and while he was stateside, he discovered hackathons, which is the origin spot for his current venture.
Outside of tech, he played water polo for 10 years and enjoys playing the guitar. He finds inspiration in bands like Pearl Jam, who's coming to Europe soon, which Berkay is excited about. After getting into hackathons, Berkay and his co-founder built a prototype of their current company solution, an automatic transcription solution for voiceovers.
Once they graduated, they decided to start a company and move into subtitles and beyond. This is the creation story of Maestra. Maestra.
So tell me about what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's that hackathon version or maybe it's post that. You decide where you want to start. But tell me about the MVP. What sort of tools were you using to bring it to life and how long it took you to build?
So let's stay on that MVP for a minute. With any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around, you know, what you're going to choose first. And you mentioned one earlier, maybe dive into that one or pick one that you really had to work through and how you cope with the decisions that you made.
This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where KiteWorks comes in. KiteWorks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Six months moonlighting. There's nothing like a backhand. Who share what it takes to change an industry. I don't exactly know what to do next. It took many goes to get right. Who built the teams that have their back. The company is its people. The teams help each other achieve. Most proud of our team.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, KiteWorks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. KiteWorks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and email.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. So then you've got the MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. How have you progressed the product from there and matured it?
I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you built your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Maestro.
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was at the gate. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team. What do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Hello. Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, I didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labpart. And today, how Burkai Atatab is using AI to transcribe your audio into subtitles, transcripts, and voiceovers in minutes. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools lack proper security, putting sensitive data at risk.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Let's flip to scalability then. I'm curious to where this came into play for you. Was this built to scale from day one or a scale in mind with abstractions and things?
Or have there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. Let's talk about scalability.
So your critical infrastructure, right? You're integrated into the thick of things. So I assume that scalability is important to a growing business, period. But I assume it was important to you in the beginning. But I'm curious, was it built to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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So UK, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
This will be fun. What does the future look like for the product and for your team?
With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Ume Makan, also known as U.K., grew up in San Diego but now lives in the Bay Area.
Let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
UK, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. What advice would you give that person having gone down this road a bit? Like they're on the plane. They're excited. They can't wait to show you the product right there. What are you going to tell them?
That's fantastic advice. Well, UK, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Opal security.
And this concludes another chapter of code story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
A fun fact about her, she was homeschooled until college, and growing up, she loved puzzles and math. She planned to be a math professor until she eventually got into startups in tech. She's a curious person with many hobbies and interests. In fact, she loves to cook and was a chef at Michelin star restaurants. She also likes to garden, growing food and also interesting plants.
In the past, UK found herself drawn towards real world problems in real time. What she found herself noticing was that access management was incredibly messy and that people weren't willing to look behind the curtain to fix the problem. After she noticed that this problem kept surfacing, she then decided to solve it. This is the creation story of Opal Security.
Let's dive into the MVP or what you would consider the MVP. Maybe it's when you're building internally or maybe it's after. Tell me about that and how you put it together, what sort of tools you're using and how long it took you to build.
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OK, so with any MVP, right, you got to make certain decisions and tradeoffs. OK, when you're when you're building a product, when you are making choices about the features you're going to lean into first and how you're going to go about it. So wrap that into technical debt or feature cut or approach and those things. And they're hard to work through.
Tell me about some of those decisions you had to make and how you coped with them.
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That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
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administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. Let's take that point then.
You've got the MVP and it's built, right? Let's move forward. Let's progress forward with the product and the company. How did you mature it from that point and progress it? And I'm curious about, you know, roadmap, right? I'm curious about how you built your roadmap and what sort of criteria you're using to figure out, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Opal.
You know, you said you said we a few times. I'm curious about team. Right. How do you go about building your team? How did you and how do you and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're they're the right people, the right horses to join you?
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Did you build this to scale from day one or with scale in mind, maybe with abstractions and things like that? Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
So as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with OutPave, what are you most proud of?
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Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, this will be fun. What does the future look like for OutPave, the product, and for your team?
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Okay, let's switch to you, David. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Well, it'll be interesting to hear your response to this next question, given that of what we just talked about. I'm curious if it's the same or if it's something different. But say you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world.
Can we show it off to you right there on the plane? What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
David Cothran grew up in Dallas, Texas, and attended UTD for undergrad. Post that, he spent 22 years at Texas Instruments, who makes a whole lot more than calculators, serving in numerous roles in IT, the latter being e-commerce. But outside of tech, he's married with two kids and really enjoys spending time with his family, going to Disney, biking, and running.
That's fantastic advice. Well, David, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Outpave.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
In addition to this, he plays Minecraft with his kids and attends gymnastic meets and Boy Scout campouts. David was contacted by his current founder and friend who was going through an intrapreneurship program at SAP. After winning the program but having it be shut down, he asked David if he was available to start a company and create the Concur for small to medium construction businesses.
This is the creation story of OutPave.
Okay, tell me about the NDP of OutPave. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
And that's where we started as an MVP. So in any MVP, you've got to make certain decisions and trade-offs picking technology and things of that nature typically there can be some things around how you architect it to move quickly or technical debt or feature cut type decisions like that tell me about some of those you had to make in a little more detail on how you coped with those decisions
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back.
This episode is sponsored by Cashfly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and emails.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. Let's move forward then, right?
You've got the MVP, it's working, you're getting some traction. How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think, you know, to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how did you build your roadmap? How did you decide the next most important thing to build or to address without Pave?
All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve. Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried to begin. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
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Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, I didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
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You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Let's flip to scalability. And this will be interesting. It's always interesting to hear how this is approached.
So I hear you saying we a few times, tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, I didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by Cashfly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated, slow, or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where Cashfly comes in. Cashfly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. So this will be interesting. Given what you've built, I'm curious where scale has become interesting, right? Was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind, abstraction, things like that?
This is Code Story, a podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries who share what it takes to change an industry, who build the teams that have their back, keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as we grow. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Or has there been any interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Well, Amri, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built within Xero, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
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Okay, Amri, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
Okay, last question on me. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
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I think that's fantastic advice. Well, Amri, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of MZero.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Story. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Omri Hai is 41 years old, married with three young kids. He has lived his whole life in Israel. Unlike many founders in Israel Tech, he did not serve his military service in a technology group, but as a commanding officer in the infantry. Outside of technology, he's passionate about all things sports and loves to follow Liverpool FC.
Mostly, he enjoys chilling out, catching a movie or listening to music. Omri and his co-founder used to work together at a big company in Israel. They encountered problems scaling environments efficiently and fast. Back then, there was no cloud. It was just getting started.
When they began building something internally to solve the scaling problem, they encountered infrastructure as code, and the game changed. This is the creation story of MZero.
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I've heard different points where you could start this story, but I'm curious about the MVP, right? The first version of the product. And that's maybe, you know, post-project after you left the companies and started on a new journey within Xero. Tell me about that MVP and, you know, how long it took you to build and what sort of tools you're using to bring it to life.
Let's stay on the MVP for just a minute. With any MVP, you got to make certain decisions and trade-offs around how you approach the problem, right? Could be, okay, we're going to really focus on this portion of the product, or we're going to use this framework. And I hear you mentioning tools there, or we're going to accept some technical debt.
Tell me about some of those things you had to work through and how you coped with those decisions.
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It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and e-mails.
administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CatchFly has held a track record for high performing, ultra reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at CashFly.com slash CodeStory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash CodeStory. Let's move forward. You've got the MVP. It's working. You're getting some traction. Tell me about how you progress the product and matured it from that point.
And I think to wrap that question in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you build your roadmap, how you went about deciding, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with MZero.
So I hear you saying we tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?
Hello? Welcome to the Data Analytics Club. Do you know the password? No, didn't know there was one. Do you know how to code? Uh, no. Do you know how to query data? Like, ask a question? I guess not. Hmm, I see. Then you can't be in this club. Sorry. Goodbye. Don't be left out of the analytics club. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform.
With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. ClearQuery provides you with the information you need without requiring you to do the heavy lifting. Their Ask ClearQuery feature allows you to ask questions in plain English, helping you find relationships and connections in your data that may have previously gone unnoticed.
You can even visualize your data with presentation mode, taking your data storytelling to the next level. Pricing is based on storage, not licenses, and that ensures that you get the most bang for your buck. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify data analytics, your data analytics, with ClearQuery. Get started today at clearquery.io slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by CashFly.
The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs. Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits.
For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery. While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time.
For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory. That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. Okay, this will be super interesting to hear. I'm curious about scalability. I'm sure there's lots of interesting stories, but was this built to scale from day one or with scale in mind?
This is CodeStory. A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries. Who share what it takes to change an industry. Who built the teams that have their back. Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines. It's not an easy thing to achieve.
Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
Okay, as you step out on the balcony and you look across all that you've built with Axiom, what are you most proud of?
Let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life. You need to really want it. It's not just about technology. All this and more on Code Story. I'm your host, Noah Labhart. And today, how Neil Patel is urging you to stop sampling events, but to cut to the chase and observe them all. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks.
Okay, this will be fun because I want to hear the passion and your voice and your excitement for what you've built. Tell me what the future looks like for the product and for your team.
Okay, Neil, let's switch to you. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Okay, Neil, last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice do you give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Neil, thank you for being on the show today. And thank you for telling the creation story of Axiom.
And this concludes another chapter of Code Stories. Code Story is hosted and produced by Noah Laphart. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or the podcasting app of your choice. And when you get a chance, leave us a review. Both things help us out tremendously. And thanks again for listening.
Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. This episode is sponsored by ClearQuery. ClearQuery is the analytics for humans platform. With their full suite of features, you can go from data ingestion to automated insights seamlessly. With Ask ClearQuery, you can find valuable insights into your data using plain English. Don't miss the opportunity to simplify your data analytics with ClearQuery.
Get started today at clearquery.io slash code story. Neil Patel has always been a hacker. Electronics boards, radios, etc. Being interested in how things work, mechanically or digitally. He learned hard work at his father's convenience store while also reading every computer magazine on the rack. He's a pharmacologist by study, but landed in tech because he's passionate about it.
But outside of tech, he loves architecture and design. He also loves to read, in particular sci-fi, and enjoys eating Gujarati food, which is purely vegetarian food with tons of flavors. Prior to 2020, Neil and his team was attempting to build tooling around understanding event data.
After a while, they realized that no matter what was done or built on top of an event store, you couldn't realize the value without storing all of the events. So they pivoted and focused on fixing the data store problem first. This is the creation story of Axiom.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Whatever you did sounds cool, but there's also another option. Oh, really? Yeah, with Permit.io. Permit is the full-stack authorization platform created so you never have to build permissions again. Build and manage permissions for any application with policy as code, APIs, developer-friendly SDKs, and user-facing UI.
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. And that's going to be interesting because you had to go back down to the data store and now you're going back up to the product side here. And so maybe there's multiple or maybe there's the first one you want to start with. You decide and you take me where you want to go. But I'm curious about MVP. What sort of tools you were using to bring it live?
Excuse me. What kind of tools you were using to bring it to life and how long it was taking to build it?
Permit is an end-to-end authorization platform built on top of open source policy engines. It's high performing, gets decisions in less than 10 milliseconds, and uses a hybrid approach where config is in the cloud, but data and decisions are made locally. Not only is it intuitive, it lets you implement fully functional authorization in five minutes, not six months, and in the code base you prefer.
Maybe stick in the second MVP part because I get there was a decision point to go and build the second MVP to focus on the data store to fix the problems there. Tell me about some decisions and tradeoffs you had to make within the second MVP, maybe around like technical debt or approach or things like that and how you cope with those decisions.
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And I think to wrap in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how do you build your roadmap and what sort of criteria are you using to decide, okay, this is the next most important thing to build or to address with Axiom?
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
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Okay, this will be interesting given what you've built. And I'm sure there's interesting stories here. Did you build this to scale efficiently from day one or with scale in mind? Or are there interesting areas where you've had to fight it as you've grown?
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As you step out on a balcony and you look across all that you've built with Traceable, what are you most proud of?
Keeping scalability top of mind. All that infrastructure was a pain. Yes, we've been fighting it as a group. Total waste of time. The stories you don't read in the headlines.
Okay, let's flip the script a little bit. Tell me about a mistake you made and how you and your team responded to it.
Okay, so what's the future look like for the product and for your team?
Took it off the shelf and dusted it off and tried it again. To ride the ups and downs of the startup life.
Let's switch to you, Sanjay. Who influences the way that you work? Name a person or many persons or something you look up to and why.
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Last question. So you're getting on a plane and you're sitting next to a young entrepreneur who's built the next big thing. They're jazzed about it. They can't wait to show it off to the world and can't wait to show it off to you right there on the plane. What advice to give that person having gone down this road a bit?
That's fantastic advice. Well, Sanjay, thank you for being on the show today. Thank you for telling the creation story of Traceable.
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Sanjay Nagaraj started his journey in India, where he was born and raised. His earliest influences started at home, as his father taught him honesty and integrity, and his mother heavily influenced his growth as an individual.
Though he spends most of his time in tech, any time outside of work is dedicated to time with family, where he gets to see the world through his wife and kids, along with fueling his passion for singing and following his favorite sports team. For Sanjay, one thing that was clear to him was that application builders exposing APIs are responsible for making sure those APIs are secure.
Prior to his current venture, he and his co-founder built AppDynamics, and they saw the growth of APIs firsthand. As such, they also saw that businesses were looking for products to help them understand APIs and protect them in real time. This is the creation story of Traceable.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Whatever you did sounds cool, but there's also another option. Oh, really? Yeah, with Permit.io. Permit is the full-stack authorization platform created so you never have to build permissions again. Build and manage permissions for any application with policy as code, APIs, developer-friendly SDKs, and user-facing UI.
Tell me about what you would consider the MVP. So that first version of the product you built, how long did it take to build and what sort of tools were you using to bring it to life?
Permit is an end-to-end authorization platform built on top of open source policy engines. It's high performing, gets decisions in less than 10 milliseconds, and uses a hybrid approach where config is in the cloud, but data and decisions are made locally. Not only is it intuitive, it lets you implement fully functional authorization in five minutes, not six months, and in the code base you prefer.
This episode is sponsored by CashFly. The web is a competitive place, and if your site delivers its content pixelated slow or not at all, well, then you lose. But that's where CashFly comes in. CashFly delivers rich media content up to 159% faster than other major CDNs.
Through ultra-low latency streaming, lightning-fast gaming, and optimized mobile content, the company offers a variety of benefits. For over 20 years, CashFly has held a track record for high-performing, ultra-reliable content delivery.
While competitors call themselves fast or use cute animal names, only CashFly holds the record of being the fastest and serves customers like Adobe, the NFL, or Roblox, where content is created by users and must be delivered in real time. For the first time ever, CodeStory listeners can get a 5TB CDN for free. Yep, you heard that right. Free. Learn more at cashfly.com slash codestory.
That's C-A-C-H-E-F-L-Y dot com slash codestory. This episode is sponsored by KiteWorks. Legacy managed file transfer tools are dated and lack the security that today's remote workforce demands. Companies that continue relying on outdated technology put their sensitive data at risk. And that's where Kiteworks comes in. Kiteworks MFT is absolutely the most secure MFT on the market today.
Check out the link in the show notes or go to permit.io to learn more. That's P-E-R-M-I-T dot I-O. Sign up for permit and stop rebuilding off.
It has been FedRAMP moderate authorized by the Department of Defense since 2017. Through FedRAMP, Kiteworks' level of security compliance provides a fast route to CMMC compliance, saving customers time, effort, and money. Kiteworks MFT makes it easy for users to send automated or ad hoc files via fully integrated shared folders and emails.
Administrators can manage policies in a unified console and create custom integrations using their API. Did we mention it's secure? The level of security with KiteWorks solution is rare to find. Step into the future of secure managed file transfer with KiteWorks. Visit KiteWorks.com to get started. That's K-I-T-E-W-O-R-K-S dot com. So then you've got V1. Let's move forward then.
How did you progress the product from there and mature it? And I think to wrap that in a box a little bit, what I'm looking for is how you went about building your roadmap and what sort of criteria you were using to decide the next most important thing to build or to address with Traceable.
So I hear you saying we. Tell me about how you built your team and what do you look for in those people to indicate that they're the winning horses to join you?