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Noah Smith

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Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

But when these private investors or other countries or regular people or whoever become less willing to buy the bonds, they have to offer a higher interest rate to get people to buy the bonds.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And so the interest rates go up and up and up.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

But when the interest rates go up, the government has to roll over its whole stock of debt at those new higher interest rates.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And when it has to roll over this debt,

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

You know, it has to pay higher interest costs every month, every year out of its budget and has to pay those costs or else it defaults.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And if there's a government default, the economy crashes and very bad things happen.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

So the government has to pay more and more interest each year.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

So it can do one of two things.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

It can either raise taxes and cut spending.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

It can exercise fiscal austerity or it can just borrow more to cover the interest payments.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

So that's what we're doing right now.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

We're actually borrowing more and more to cover the increased interest payments on because our interest rates went up, you know, partly because the Fed raised interest rates, partly because people are demanding higher interest rates for long term bonds.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

We are the government has to pay higher interest rates now and its whole stock of debt as it rolls it over.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And then so the interest costs per month per year are going up and up and up.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And we're just borrowing to cover that interest, too.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And that's bad because eventually people realize like, wait, they're not going to really pay this back, are they?

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

And then what happens, interestingly, is inflation.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

So people realize that what will eventually happen, people might think there would be a default, but more likely is that the government gets the central bank to print money to pay off the debt.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

It's a little more complicated than printing money, quote unquote.

Making Sense with Sam Harris
#480 β€” The Economics of Everything

But it's basically that.