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Noam Shazeer

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But I think what we kind of didn't quite appreciate was how useful they could be for

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

things you wouldn't ask a search engine, right?

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Like help me write a note to my veterinarian or like, oh, can you take this text and give me a quick summary of it or whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And I think that's the kind of thing we've seen people really flock to in terms of using chatbots as amazing new capabilities rather than as a pure search engine.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And so I think we took our time and got to the point where we actually released quite kickable chatbots and have been improving them through Gemini models quite a bit.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And I think that's actually not a bad path to have taken.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Would we like to have released a chatbot earlier, maybe?

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

But I think we have a pretty awesome chatbot with awesome Gemini models that are getting better all the time, and that's pretty cool.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Yeah, I mean, I think one thing that I like to do is to find out about a new and interesting area.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And one of the best ways to do that is to pay attention to what's going on

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Talk to colleagues, like pay attention to research papers that are being published.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Look at the kind of research landscape as it's evolving.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

You know, be willing to say, oh, you know, chip design.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

I wonder if we could use reinforcement learning for some aspect of that and be able to dive into a new area.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Work with people who know a lot about a different domain or AI for healthcare is something I've done a bit of work on here.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

working with clinicians about what are the real problems, how could AI help?

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

It wouldn't be that useful for this thing, but it would be super useful for this.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

Getting those insights and often working with a set of five or six colleagues who have different expertise than you do.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

enables you to collectively do something that none of you could do individually.

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Jeff Dean & Noam Shazeer โ€“ 25 years at Google: from PageRank to AGI

And then some of their expertise rubs off on you and some of your expertise rubs off on them.