Noel King

I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the American who... ends up talking to one of these people in North Korea and figures it out. He's like, uh-oh, this person is definitely not in Knoxville. And I wonder what you do about it. Like, you can't call the police and say somebody fraudulently applied for a job at my company. But also, this isn't right. It doesn't seem legal.

I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the American who... ends up talking to one of these people in North Korea and figures it out. He's like, uh-oh, this person is definitely not in Knoxville. And I wonder what you do about it. Like, you can't call the police and say somebody fraudulently applied for a job at my company. But also, this isn't right. It doesn't seem legal.

I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of the American who... ends up talking to one of these people in North Korea and figures it out. He's like, uh-oh, this person is definitely not in Knoxville. And I wonder what you do about it. Like, you can't call the police and say somebody fraudulently applied for a job at my company. But also, this isn't right. It doesn't seem legal.

What can law enforcement and what does law enforcement actually do here?

What can law enforcement and what does law enforcement actually do here?

What can law enforcement and what does law enforcement actually do here?

There is something about all of this, Bobby, that is just not particularly clever. It's working, but you don't have to have a beautiful mind to think up a scam like this one. I wonder, though, as you were reporting out this story, where your mind went when you thought about... What are the perils in the future that we're facing?

There is something about all of this, Bobby, that is just not particularly clever. It's working, but you don't have to have a beautiful mind to think up a scam like this one. I wonder, though, as you were reporting out this story, where your mind went when you thought about... What are the perils in the future that we're facing?

There is something about all of this, Bobby, that is just not particularly clever. It's working, but you don't have to have a beautiful mind to think up a scam like this one. I wonder, though, as you were reporting out this story, where your mind went when you thought about... What are the perils in the future that we're facing?

What doors are opened by this little scam that five years from now or 10 years from now might be even harder to combat?

What doors are opened by this little scam that five years from now or 10 years from now might be even harder to combat?

What doors are opened by this little scam that five years from now or 10 years from now might be even harder to combat?

It's North Korea, okay.

It's North Korea, okay.

It's North Korea, okay.

Bobby Johnson, investigative reporter. Gabrielle Burbey produced today's show. Amina El-Sadi edited. Patrick Boyd is our engineer. And Laura Bullard checks the facts. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

Bobby Johnson, investigative reporter. Gabrielle Burbey produced today's show. Amina El-Sadi edited. Patrick Boyd is our engineer. And Laura Bullard checks the facts. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

Bobby Johnson, investigative reporter. Gabrielle Burbey produced today's show. Amina El-Sadi edited. Patrick Boyd is our engineer. And Laura Bullard checks the facts. I'm Noelle King. It's Today Explained.

I have Botox up here, here. I've had filler in my cheekbones, filler in the chin, filler in the jaw, and my lips, so pretty much my whole face except my nose.

I have Botox up here, here. I've had filler in my cheekbones, filler in the chin, filler in the jaw, and my lips, so pretty much my whole face except my nose.