Noel King

Ian, in the second half of the show, we're going to be talking about the frequency with which President Trump has said he must do something because it's an emergency. He's got to do tariffs because it's an emergency. Some of the moves on immigration because it's an emergency. If this court rebukes the president on tariffs and says, hey, you called it an emergency, but we don't think it is.

Ian, in the second half of the show, we're going to be talking about the frequency with which President Trump has said he must do something because it's an emergency. He's got to do tariffs because it's an emergency. Some of the moves on immigration because it's an emergency. If this court rebukes the president on tariffs and says, hey, you called it an emergency, but we don't think it is.

Ian, in the second half of the show, we're going to be talking about the frequency with which President Trump has said he must do something because it's an emergency. He's got to do tariffs because it's an emergency. Some of the moves on immigration because it's an emergency. If this court rebukes the president on tariffs and says, hey, you called it an emergency, but we don't think it is.

Does that mean that we might be looking at a near future in which courts are far more skeptical of the president using it's an emergency as an excuse to do what he wants?

Does that mean that we might be looking at a near future in which courts are far more skeptical of the president using it's an emergency as an excuse to do what he wants?

Does that mean that we might be looking at a near future in which courts are far more skeptical of the president using it's an emergency as an excuse to do what he wants?

Vox's Ian Millihiser. Up next, an expert on presidential emergencies is getting a little worried.

Vox's Ian Millihiser. Up next, an expert on presidential emergencies is getting a little worried.

Vox's Ian Millihiser. Up next, an expert on presidential emergencies is getting a little worried.

I'm Noelle King. Elizabeth Goitin is with the Brennan Center, where she co-directs the Liberty and National Security Program. Elizabeth is an expert, maybe even the expert, on presidential emergency powers. And she says President Trump has sure been using his.

I'm Noelle King. Elizabeth Goitin is with the Brennan Center, where she co-directs the Liberty and National Security Program. Elizabeth is an expert, maybe even the expert, on presidential emergency powers. And she says President Trump has sure been using his.

I'm Noelle King. Elizabeth Goitin is with the Brennan Center, where she co-directs the Liberty and National Security Program. Elizabeth is an expert, maybe even the expert, on presidential emergency powers. And she says President Trump has sure been using his.

So eight emergencies sounds like a lot, especially because for most Americans day to day, I don't think we feel like we're living in a time of eight distinct emergencies that we weren't living in, you know, six months ago. Why does the president do this?

So eight emergencies sounds like a lot, especially because for most Americans day to day, I don't think we feel like we're living in a time of eight distinct emergencies that we weren't living in, you know, six months ago. Why does the president do this?

So eight emergencies sounds like a lot, especially because for most Americans day to day, I don't think we feel like we're living in a time of eight distinct emergencies that we weren't living in, you know, six months ago. Why does the president do this?

I can certainly see that. And President Trump sometimes behaves as if the emergency powers were, you know, granted from upon high by God. But actually what you're saying is they come from Congress. This is Congress saying we will allow you to have additional power in times of emergency. When and why did Congress initially do this?

I can certainly see that. And President Trump sometimes behaves as if the emergency powers were, you know, granted from upon high by God. But actually what you're saying is they come from Congress. This is Congress saying we will allow you to have additional power in times of emergency. When and why did Congress initially do this?

I can certainly see that. And President Trump sometimes behaves as if the emergency powers were, you know, granted from upon high by God. But actually what you're saying is they come from Congress. This is Congress saying we will allow you to have additional power in times of emergency. When and why did Congress initially do this?

How far can the president go with emergency powers? Like, what kinds of things could he do?

How far can the president go with emergency powers? Like, what kinds of things could he do?