Noel King

What did you learn about the imagery that ICE is using in these ads?

What is it telegraphing?

What is it trying to say?

Drew Harwell covers tech for The Washington Post.

When we come back, the allegations that there's Nazi imagery in some of these ICE ads.

A Vox reporter did a deep dive on whether or not there's anything to that claim.

You recently wrote a very good piece for Vox called The Trump Administration Can't Stop Winking at White Nationalists.

What do you mean?

I've been watching, as I'm sure you have, the reaction to this online.

Some of these examples.

Did you see the thing over the weekend?

Gregory Bovino wore this kind of trench coat and people said it looks like a Nazi coat.

One of the things that makes me consider is whether there is enough plausible deniability here that you think...

Am I really seeing this, or is it the power of suggestion that's making me think I'm seeing something that isn't really there, that isn't really deliberate, and I should restrain myself from making judgments?

It could be, one might say, right, because people are saying it online, it could be they're not trying to be white nationalists.

They're not trying to be fashy.

This is all a coincidence.

You're a reporter.

You have to take that very seriously.

Where do you land on this?