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Norma Kamali

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234 total appearances

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Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I packed up my things and I walked out and that was it. And so she said, Just like the guy with the tuna fish sandwich is an important person in my success because both of them forced me to do something I never thought I would be able to do, no matter how difficult it was becoming with Eddie, no matter how I knew he was doing all of these things. I knew he was taking drugs.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I packed up my things and I walked out and that was it. And so she said, Just like the guy with the tuna fish sandwich is an important person in my success because both of them forced me to do something I never thought I would be able to do, no matter how difficult it was becoming with Eddie, no matter how I knew he was doing all of these things. I knew he was taking drugs.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I knew he was spending all the money. the fabric on these things. I couldn't imagine leaving my things. I had $98 to my name. How could you leave with $98? And at that point, we'd separated. I had an apartment. I had a mattress. I didn't even have curtains. I didn't have anything, but I had this feeling that... something good was going to happen. And I had no reason to believe that.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I knew he was spending all the money. the fabric on these things. I couldn't imagine leaving my things. I had $98 to my name. How could you leave with $98? And at that point, we'd separated. I had an apartment. I had a mattress. I didn't even have curtains. I didn't have anything, but I had this feeling that... something good was going to happen. And I had no reason to believe that.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I had zero reason. And nobody knew me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

I had zero reason. And nobody knew me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

Oh, half of the business. Are you kidding? He kept changing. First of all. I never had half of the business. He always had more of it because he was the man. I can't explain to you, but that was the way it was. And I accepted it because that's the way it was. It was the way women were trained to believe, and I was trained to believe that he could probably run the business better than I could.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

Oh, half of the business. Are you kidding? He kept changing. First of all. I never had half of the business. He always had more of it because he was the man. I can't explain to you, but that was the way it was. And I accepted it because that's the way it was. It was the way women were trained to believe, and I was trained to believe that he could probably run the business better than I could.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I had no idea why because I saw my mother handle money very well, but... It was also a partnership, so I accepted the role I had. And I have to say, that girl is so responsible for my freedom as a person, my awareness of my skills, skills I never thought I had. And I think... There was a point later on where she tried to get in touch with me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I had no idea why because I saw my mother handle money very well, but... It was also a partnership, so I accepted the role I had. And I have to say, that girl is so responsible for my freedom as a person, my awareness of my skills, skills I never thought I had. And I think... There was a point later on where she tried to get in touch with me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

She had gone through AA, or I wasn't sure it was drugs or alcohol. And I think there's one of the steps is to ask for forgiveness. And she wanted to do that. And I told her she didn't have to, that she was an important factor in my success. And I would always be grateful for the role she paid, even though she misunderstood what I was talking about.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

She had gone through AA, or I wasn't sure it was drugs or alcohol. And I think there's one of the steps is to ask for forgiveness. And she wanted to do that. And I told her she didn't have to, that she was an important factor in my success. And I would always be grateful for the role she paid, even though she misunderstood what I was talking about.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So one of the things that is really important, I think, for people to know is the relationship was very abusive. I mean, he never touched me, but it was verbally abusive. It was trying to make me fearful. And that abuse, I would never talk about. My mother wasn't speaking to me because I got married so young. She didn't speak to me for a long time. She was very upset with me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

So one of the things that is really important, I think, for people to know is the relationship was very abusive. I mean, he never touched me, but it was verbally abusive. It was trying to make me fearful. And that abuse, I would never talk about. My mother wasn't speaking to me because I got married so young. She didn't speak to me for a long time. She was very upset with me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I didn't have anybody to confide in. And so I had to live with this fear secret about my life. And so I didn't have a confidant. I didn't have somebody to say, you shouldn't be doing this or try something else. So at that point, again, another one of these universe things, there was an editor who had been trying to make an appointment with me, a fashion editor, to talk to me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And I didn't have anybody to confide in. And so I had to live with this fear secret about my life. And so I didn't have a confidant. I didn't have somebody to say, you shouldn't be doing this or try something else. So at that point, again, another one of these universe things, there was an editor who had been trying to make an appointment with me, a fashion editor, to talk to me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

She heard that I was the designer. And nobody had ever wanted to speak with me. They spoke with Eddie. We had a date set where we were gonna have lunch. And it was the day after I left the company And my face was swollen from crying. And I thought, I don't know how to get in touch with this woman. I didn't have her telephone number. It was at work.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

She heard that I was the designer. And nobody had ever wanted to speak with me. They spoke with Eddie. We had a date set where we were gonna have lunch. And it was the day after I left the company And my face was swollen from crying. And I thought, I don't know how to get in touch with this woman. I didn't have her telephone number. It was at work.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And so I just met her at the restaurant, looking like I'd just gotten beaten up. And it was a mess. And she said, what happened to you? And I just told her everything. And I felt so vulnerable. And I'd never, ever tell anybody anything. I mean, it was just not what you did. And she said, I'm going to help you. And so she started to help me find help. people to help me.

Leap Academy with Ilana Golan
Styling BeyoncĂ©, Cher, and J.Lo: Norma Kamali’s Rise from Losing Her Company to Dressing Icons | E88

And so I just met her at the restaurant, looking like I'd just gotten beaten up. And it was a mess. And she said, what happened to you? And I just told her everything. And I felt so vulnerable. And I'd never, ever tell anybody anything. I mean, it was just not what you did. And she said, I'm going to help you. And so she started to help me find help. people to help me.