Norman Cook

But sometimes it's good, right?

Well, I think it's more... I don't think there's any...

coincidence that when we were kids everybody you were in a cult in a gang you're a punk or a ted or yes or you know and that doesn't seem to exist anymore they don't have cults because i think people are finding their identity online and they can find out who they are and experiment with who they are without having to dress in a really extreme fashion to grab everyone's attention and go you know hi i'm here i'm i'm almost an adult and i think i'm this you know because this is i think there's a

Having watched my two kids go out, it's like finding... Coming of age means finding where you fit in the world, what your identity is and what your place is in.

Because before us, everybody just looks after you and you're just wide-eyed and, you know, observing everything and learning.

And then it comes a point, it's like, now I'm going to do... It's like, what am I going to do?

And I think...

Being in a band was a great way of doing it.

But I think having your own TikTok channel and just doing whatever, you know, start with stupid dances and then end up doing minor, you know, minor epic TV productions.

I do remember a conversation with my son when...

i was having a good go at him for being too obsessed i think it was like he had an instagram he said oh can you follow me or can you can you comment he said every time you comment i get like 50 more um uh followers and i was like as a father i ought to tell you that life isn't just about followers and plus these people they're not your real friends you know and if they're following you because they came through it through me they're not really your friends they're just notches on your you know social media bed post

And he's like, Dad, do you remember when you were growing up at school?

He said, you know, that thing about how popular you are and, you know, you're in a band and how many people come to your gig.

He said, imagine how that important that is to us of our age.

And he said, imagine if there was just a figure that everybody could see that was a measure of how popular and how cool you were.

How obsessed do you think you'd be about that figure?

And I'm like, yeah, you're right.

What?

Oh, yeah, he's very... Woody... For an idiot, my son is a very wise man.

Also very irresponsible.