Norman Taylor

But once she'd passed away, things were a bit different because I didn't want to continue in the type of work I was doing.

So I started doing stuff with MI5, going through the process.

But the job they offered me was mobile surveillance.

And I was a risk guy.

I'd been in that business for 10 years.

So it didn't really make sense, Liam, to be honest with you.

So what then happened was MI6 came along and said, we've got a position.

Would you be interested in doing this?

So I joined as an agent.

Now,

There's a difference between an agent and an intelligence officer, and there's a distinct difference, and many people get this confused.

And I think if an intelligence officer was here, they would probably agree with me that they don't tend to take the risk.

What tends to happen is the intelligence officer is recruited, they're employed, they are a government member of staff.

They will then be responsible for recruiting agents who will go out and get the information for them.

The agent is not employed.

They're an agent and they build and manage those networks across the world.

Yeah, my wife's concern really was pretty much what a lot of the public have.

It's secretive, it's cloak and dagger, I'm a bit worried.

So she had security concerns.

And that came from a lack of understanding.