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You just saw this man interrogate the Ramseys. As a detective, I'm looking for clues. Wait until you hear what he has to say about the case now. They may not like what I say, but I'm going to say it.

There's got to be something at the heart of that evidence that they've got.

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There's got to be something at the heart of that evidence that they've got.

Well, there's 57 pages of names that have come out of the tip files.

We probably do something on it two or three times a week.

Sure.

I acquired a document that you see right here that names John and Patsy Ramsey as suspects. It was submitted for analysis, reference DNA.

No. This analysis eliminates the Ramseys.

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This is the alley that runs behind the Ramseys' home. Leads into the backyard, to the garage area.

A lot of transit people come here for food and also to pick up their mail.

The Ramsey home is, what, 10 houses? Right up this alley. Right up this alley.

I would be concerned if any lead was not fully taken to ground.

Well, it was said, probably not in quite that language, but yes. Can I have a cigarette? Yes.

There isn't enough to convict anybody beyond a reasonable doubt.

I think a little bit.

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You have not classified any individual as a suspect? Publicly correct.

Both of them? Yes. Are considered to have probably been involved in the death of their daughter? Probability, yes.

They convinced the public of guilt.

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No one recognizes you. Not even people who watched you in the 2000s.

Not even Charles.

She won't agree to that.

Oh no. Wait, you don't have a slogan? It gets worse. There's no slogan.

Have you thought at all about a possible slogan? How about we don't actually have a slogan as a slogan?

Are there Oompa Loompas?

Yeah. Not really.

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Not really?

Why are you hesitating on that? What kind of an Oompa Loompa do you?

Do I think you can go to a candy factory and make it better?

No, I don't. I don't think you can do it. I'm sorry.

No, I don't think you can do it.

Do you think you can do it? Yes. Oh, okay. I think you can do it. It's by copyright infringement? That's your plan?

Yeah.

Meanwhile, if you have any stock in your company, I might consider selling it. Yeah. I wouldn't do that.

It was an Oompa Loompa.

Maybe, why don't you buy some bubble gum and a caramel and just try it out?

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Am I wrong?

It's his aunt's husband.

It's your grandfather-in-law.

No. Down with Hitler. Yeah.

And the catchphrase is put an ape man in your mouth.

They're not like 90, you're 60.

That's all bubble gum. Yeah, those teeth. Maybe it's time to do like a throwback campaign, you know, nostalgia and stuff.

Yeah, I do. I like it.

He says it normally.

It has a sweetness to it. You should be in a commercial.

OK.

You would have told her? Yeah. How and when?

Like this is the bad blood or this is the all too well gum.

Well, when you do my... What do you use them for? What do you use them for? For naming the kids. It's a bunch of 90-year-old lawyers. Oh, wait. Call it after Tarzan. Kids love Tarzan. Are these the Oompa Loompas? Is that what's happening here? Charles.

Well, let me ask you. Yeah. Maybe it's time to, you know, take him out. Yeah. What? What? Just a little, you know, a little Shakespearean kind of... Yeah, one bad blood candy and he's out.

Charles, we keep telling him he's currently on the air. Don't do that.

Max. Yeah, you're getting on him about branding names.

Please state your name for the record and spell your last name.

If he didn't kill him right there and then, he wasn't going to kill him at all. Because that was the time to do it, with his bare hands.

They just let it slide. Let it slide because they got their man. Tony was the only suspect.

It was just normal that he decided to do it at that time.

I believe it started at about two-something in the morning and then ran for like five hours.

Yeah. It looks bad. Oh, sure. That's why Mr. Mello and the prosecutor's office have a case.

How can you prove that a man committed a murder in New Jersey when you cannot even prove that he was in New Jersey.

Has the jury agreed upon a verdict?

Is the verdict unanimous?

You're being questioned the next day about a murder. You know, why would you lie about simple things like the dishes to the police officer? When you actually sit down and look at the photographs of his house, I defy anybody to say that he's doing the dishes. He had piles and piles and piles of dirty dishes. Why would you lie about whether you left your apartment, what time you left?

These are very simple things.

If you were just a rational agent acting in the most self-interested way possible as a researcher in academia, I think you would cheat.

Our field doesn't have a culture of open criticism. It's not considered OK.

If I name a specific theory or finding, that's considered a personal attack on the people associated with that theory or finding, even if I don't talk about the people behind it. And that's considered not OK.

I think one thing we can say for sure is that humans are quite good at self-deception. There's a lot of reasons why researchers want to believe that they've found the answers to these problems, right? One is a pro-social reason. They want to help solve these problems. They want to help people. Another one is more self-interested. They want a seat at the policy table.

They want attention for themselves. They want to promote their theory and their brand. And it's also kind of a survival thing to stay in academia, to be able to continue to do the research you need to have successes. And those successes often mean selling your work and sometimes overselling your work. We want to be taken seriously as scientists and be scientific.

And that means being calibrated and careful and not exaggerating. But at the same time, the people who do exaggerate are probably going to get more of those successes that get them attention, get them a seat at the table, get them the next grant, the next job and so on.

Yeah. So if you were just a rational agent acting in the most self-interested way possible as a researcher in academia, I think you would cheat. I think that is absolutely the way the incentives are set up. I don't think most people do, but not because of the incentives.

I think that maybe that's appropriate for fields like psychology where we're tackling really messy, complicated things that are multiply determined, that have many causes. It's hard to measure even one of the causes. And so I think if you hear a claim that sounds too good to be true or sounds too simplistic, I think it's appropriate to use common sense to be skeptical of it.

Generally, I think we're taught that science can overturn common sense and you shouldn't just not believe science just because your common sense goes against it. But I think that should be different for different sciences. And psychology, psychology is just a lot harder to do. And it's a relatively young science.

We haven't perfected even the measurement of many of these concepts, much less all the other steps to studying them.

I do.

Yeah. I mean, I think to our credit, it's broader than that. I think that our field is really in a period of intense self-examination. It's going to tell the world, I think, how committed we are to scientific values, how we deal with this crisis. There's so many branches to this crisis.

And I think it's just a crisis of, I don't know, integrity or credibility or whatever the most fundamental word you could use to describe what it means to be scientific. There was a lot of debate in the early days of the crisis of whether we should air our dirty laundry in public. The people who were arguing against it, I lost a lot of respect for them. But the other side won.

We did air it in public, and I think that we deserve some credit for that. I don't think we should rest on our laurels there. Identifying the problem is not the same thing as changing our practices. We should do some soul-searching about how we got there and how we can prevent that from happening again.

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No, we don't. And so Ellen... I mean, and that's why I called.

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Right.

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Right.

Hi, Dr. Don. How are you?

I am phenomenal also.

So I'll just jump into my very long-winded question.

Okay. So my husband is a very, very busy man. He travels frequently, and so he'll be gone for days or even weeks at a time. When he is gone, it's just me and my son at the house. And we have kind of just like a peaceful rhythm. We have things planned, but nothing too busy. Just kind of going with the flow. And then when he comes home, the energy is very different.

He's a very intense, passionate kind of man. And so he brings that energy into the household. And it's always kind of chaotic sometimes. And I'm having a hard time regulating kind of between the two environments. When he's gone, I miss him. But then when he comes home, I am kind of overstimulated.

Like as soon as he tells me that he's on the flight home or driving back, it's like I can't breathe anymore. And then he gets home and I'm picking fights. And I'm just having a hard time regulating between when he's gone and it's just me and my son. And then when he's home, it has like this whole kind of different dynamic with the house.

Thank you for picking up our call.

Yes.

Um, so I, we've talked about.

Yes.

He says he's burnt out too. But I think I kind of forgot a big piece. So he's always kind of been like this very on-the-go motivated person. But a year and a half ago, we went through some pretty extreme trauma. And I think he's still kind of living with that every day.

And I think his coping mechanism has been to fill his schedule as busy as possible so that he doesn't have to sit and think about it.

Yes. And it is, it does feel like a drug in the house.

Very empathetic. Um, his mom had a heart attack and she was on life support for two weeks. And so he slept with her in the hospital, um, had to kind of witness all of that. And then after the two weeks had to make the decision to take her off life support.

Um, He is in the picture in the very slightest sense. Okay. We wish he wasn't, but I wish he wasn't.

Yeah. And I, so when this all did happen, I was six months pregnant and he is the oldest brother. And so I kind of, I saw him take on the energy of like, I'm the man of the house. Sure. You guys feel, I won't feel like, And kind of that has not stopped since that time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, there has been moments where he's had to dip, either like my son and I haven't been home or we've been doing something, and mentally it's very, very hard on him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yes. You guys have that.

Yeah.

Yeah. And we've been together... for almost 13 years now. So I've always been used to kind of that intensity, but now it, it never comes down, which is kind of where we're struggling. That's right.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. That's kind of how it feels.

Yeah, I kind of just feel like I'm getting dragged behind a car sometimes.

Yeah.

Yes.

Right. We've had that conversation that it feels like my son and I have one life and he has one life. And sometimes they...

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That's really all it is, I think.

Okay.

We've talked about him going to therapy before and he's a little too nervous to do it alone. Is that something that we could start together?

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

Right?

We haven't really properly tried, but I do believe our songs are always better when we have a better understanding of the genre we're working in. Yeah, just like anything.

I've Got a Feeling.

But we never did it, right? Yeah, but we never did it.

Yes.

It's just like, oh, it was. I remember there was an idea we had that we never cracked called a song for every occasion.

Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Which, by the way, a few weeks ago, I already talked about the after party when Charlie hosted. Yeah. That song was played. I've got a feeling that tonight is going to be a good night. And the current SNL cast was all really vibing to it. I believe that.

Yeah.

Bless his heart. Excellent. All right. Best look in the world. Let me see. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun to do. I'm sure Andy has said this. I'm sure everyone has said this. You know, it didn't turn out great. Andy and I were talking about this recently, and it was kind of like the first time they tried to do sort of a rockabilly, almost country-ish song. And it was just way too fast.

And we did And realize that no one is going to be able to understand the lyrics. I mean, it was one of those ones that I remember writing it and loving it, laughing really hard, thinking it was fantastic. And then watching it on Saturday and just being like, oh, yeah, that's right. No one can understand this. But the whole experience was a blast.

I remember like feuding over kind of, you know, on the West Side Highway where they shot so many things, but doing it just kind of like run and gun guerrilla style with a bunch of extras not wearing any pants. It's kind of raining. We were just kind of like walking around the neighborhood sort of looking for shots, places that we could have these guys. Run around.

Yeah, I remember Shia was a really good sport. My overwhelming memory is that it was a lot of fun, but that, you know, it's not one for the ages, unfortunately. I hope some of this is useful. Bye.

Yeah, that's about right. I remember that night, too, being like, because we had done one with Shia that, you know, we already have talked about, Dear Sister, that clearly had an impact and feeling like, oh, man, we thought we were going to, like, hit it again with him and didn't. And I felt kind of, like, guilty.

Is that right?

That's right.

Stop tickling me. I don't remember ever being on a MacGruber set. That's so crazy that I don't remember it because I love MacGruber.

Keeve, I agree with what you're saying, but do you think that's what Jorm was saying? It seemed like he was saying we didn't have the balls.

I don't remember how it started, but it was certainly based on many, many combos about like, I've talked a lot about a lot of people in our generation had slumber parties where their dad came out in his tighty-whities wearing a T-shirt and yelled at everyone.

Shut the fuck up. Honestly, Keev, speaking personally, there's only one of those that stands out in my mind that I actually remember you saying you had issues with it. And I was like, but it felt like it did really good. I would try to bite my tongue most of the time and just silently kind of on my own be like, oh, that's not how I would do it. But do you know which one I would say?

was the one that I felt was successful that you said you had a lot of issues with? I'm going to guess Sergio. Yes.

Here I go. Excuse me.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. By the way, I saw him the other week too. He was at that after party as well.

Yeah, no one has ever said, let me tell you about a look.

Okay.

Oh, I hated it.

By the way, we just went through this on Sushi Glory Hole, right, Keev? Yeah. We shot like five different versions of an ending where it comes back into the pitch meeting with Maya, Kenan, and Bowen. And we had a bunch of really funny stuff, actually.

Then a lot of people that wear suits, you have that moment where you put on the dress shirt first and you look like that and you're like, oh man, this is bad. So socks with garters and then a shirt. Exactly. Black socks, dress shirt, no pants. And just talking about how that is basically as bad as, in this case, a man could look. Yeah.

Now we do sushi glory holes. Thank you.

Yes. But yes. But to the point being, we were like, it's over. Let's get out. And that was the correct call.

Yeah.

Applies both ways.

Successful almost every time in getting someone, yeah.

And then trying to build out a whole song around that, but reclaiming it and saying it's the best look in the world, sarcastically.

It is. And as it went longer and longer, it also turned into there was a subplot of every single one of them. I've talked about this before, which is Sudeikis trying to get us all to break.

No, he was just doing the right thing for a first-time sketch of just playing his part and making it work. But as it wore on, there was another character in the sketch by the end. Yes.

Oh, man. Yeah. And also just way too loose. Way too loose.

By the end of it, he would hop back onto the desk for like three feet and really thump it. It's nuts.

I would like to see that.

Yeah, it destroyed.

Absolutely. Right down the middle. That was the inspiration visually. I guess I should just start out by getting this out of the way and saying, I love music. I know a lot about music. That is a genre of music I had no business touching.

That's so fucking funny.

Okay, cool. I'm asking because, and we'll talk about it when we get to the point where he was hired... A lot of Bill's stuff really blossomed and flourished, I think, once Mulaney was hired because they found each other. Oh, 100%. But that Vinnie Vadeci sounds like it was a classic, really good one that totally worked.

Yeah. Would you say, Seth, I have this memory of like, say, the Vincent Price ones really taking off once Mulaney got there.

It was just like, oh, it's really good. The specificity is going to be higher.

This is like a Shyamalanian twist. I thought we were talking about a dud this whole time.

No, certainly not, yeah.

This is a rope-a-dope, man.

It's not too late for flank steak thighs to catch on. Flank steak thighs.

It's audacious.

Audacious.

I don't know, man. It's like they say in Little League when you whiff hard, but you really go for it. Good cut.

Wig did a ton of those with Paula, didn't she? A ton of those.

By the way, I mean, it probably goes without saying, and it's not like we don't talk about how incredible Wig was during all this, but we could do a whole podcast just about Wig. Yes, every week. She was on fire. She had like endless characters, it seemed like, and was crushing impressions.

It's tough to not immediately say, we think Paula wrote that.

Yeah, we love you, Arma, too. And we also love you. Thanks. Yeah, we've covered it all. Look at us. All right, I love you guys. Love you. Love you, buddy. Bye. Bye.

Would you argue it's the worst you've sounded? I would. Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, yes, because the video is telling you that what you're seeing is like a quote-unquote big one.

Yeah.

YouTube basically said, this isn't for us. Oh my God. I mean, let me tell you about a look I know from San Diego down to Mexico. That's not really that far. No.

Right out of the gate.

This is Rob Klein, who we've talked about a lot, SNL writer, dear friend.

Thank you, Klein. Wow.

Just to rewind it a hair though, Seth, before the reveal in the locker room that I'm just wearing what I'm wearing, it already is a psychotic outfit to be in a white dress shirt alone.

Yeah. To be like, I'm ready to go. No tie.

Yeah.

I mean, why would I ruin the video? I mean, the audience would have recoiled at seeing Frisbee. Because you don't think she's a pretty dog.

That's your dream version of it going on.

Can I ask a question? I know we haven't even totally delved yet, but if the song had been of a much higher quality, you know what I mean? If you could hear the words, if I didn't sound terrible, if it was musically satisfying in a way, do you think that is a premise that would have been successful?

But if it's a genre of music, we feel much more comfortable. And like, say it was me and Justin, and it was those Dick in a Box dudes. And all of a sudden, that's the hook of that song. I wonder if it would have been something people would have enjoyed more because they would have been able to actually relax. Well, they definitely more, a lot more.

And cowboy hats.

Also, Shia in the beginning is confused and against my look, and then immediately joins in on the song.

We went to the pixelation barrel a lot.

It's top secret and it's just for the gents. Button up your shirt, drop your pants. Dress shirt, black socks. Put them both on, but take off your underpants. Pelos, pale stems. We knew those. It's top secret. I mean, right off the bat, I'm like, it is? Your lower buttocks has got to show. Sports sandals are optional.

There's been a long history of sports sandals and sandals and socks stuff in Lonely Island work. Yeah. Yeah. And it's never been hipper now. Coincidence? I'm with you, my man. This is that fucking speed tweet all over again.

Jimmy cap is crowned like a newborn is definitely, definitely my line.

On the merits of the writing alone, it does make me giggle.

Tell me everything about it you hate, Seth. I hate something.

I don't think they will.

Sucks. I did not care for it.

Rewatching it, I was like, we ran out of steam on what already wasn't working. It's a dud.

I see. Yeah. Did people understand the line or were they mostly?

River spots flank steak thighs is good. It's great.

I did get Queen B today.

I didn't text you even though I did kind of crave you saying you were happy for me.

But different genre of music, we're saying.

I'll also say this. I came to country music very late in life. When we made this video, I didn't really listen to it or know anything about it, and now I really like a lot of country.

I will, I will.

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The average American is eating over the course of 15 hours.

And I think there isn't a lot of research on women and intermittent fasting. A lot of the research is in men. So there's still so much more that I think we have to do. But I do think a lot of the women, a lot of the researchers in this space would say that these really narrow eating windows put a lot of stress on the body.

And especially during the luteal phase, for example, the couple weeks leading into menses, your body is already working really, really hard. It's a metabolically super expensive time. So when we're layering on other stress, we're intermittent fasting, we're exercising, we're doing cold plunge, we're doing sauna. When you've got all these stressors, like you are...

basically asking your body to do, you know, Herculean kind of level type of work, right? It's just unnecessary, right? So I think, again, given that the research isn't quite there yet, I think there is a case to be made that during the luteal phase, not a time to have a really narrow eating window. And just to clarify...

These really narrow eating windows put a lot of stress on the body. When people restrict their feeding window to 10 hours, they have better markers of sleep and better markers of recovery, regardless of what phase of the menstrual cycle they're in. Fueling for your activities, to me, is the principle that all women need to be thinking about.

the way I interpret the literature, there's intermittent fasting, which basically has a caloric restriction component. And then there's time-restricted eating, which has a circadian component. And I'm not a nutritionist and I'm not an expert in fasting, but my PhD was in circadian alignment, predicts psychological and physiological resilience. So I spent a lot of time on circadian things.

And I have seen in the data, When people restrict their feeding window to 10 hours, they have better markers of sleep and better markers of recovery, regardless of what phase of the menstrual cycle they're in. So there is, I think, a sweet spot. And it looks like it's about 10 hours where we're eating. And then we're fasting the other 14 hours. And that's where people call it fasting.

But it's really not fasting. You're basically just giving your body a rest when it normally would be resting.

really we are meant to be eating when it's light out, right? Or, you know, as the sun is setting, a little bit after the sun sets, you know, that is when our body is primed to metabolize food.

I'm a firm believer in, you know, making sure you're distributing your macronutrients throughout the day, biasing toward a little bit earlier in the day when you're going to be most active, fueling for requirements, like for your activities, to me is the principle that all women need to think about.

restrictive window be don't start eating until noon or two starting in the morning and stop eating earlier yeah and it's and i don't think when you eat necessarily is going to impact how much weight you gain like i don't know that the evidence really there really exists i would agree with that

I would say that, that said, I think we are metabolically more primed to digest food earlier in the day, right?

When I look at the data, it is just...

it literally eating a meal two hours before bedtime is the same pretty much as drinking alcohol two hours before bedtime you know so when you when you look at the the impact on markers of sleep and recovery um they behave very similarly oh yeah right no we we you know what was interesting was um when we when we did this little sleep challenge that i ran again super anecdotal but um

And when you look at stress monitor, it's insane.

Have you looked at your stress monitor?

When you eat right before you go to bed, basically your stress monitor is like this. And then about three or four hours later, it levels out. Right. But that's a great way to kind of look at the impact of... your food, or same with alcohol. You might pass out, but your stress monitor is like this until the alcohol makes its way through your system, is processed, and then you start to flatten out.

I go so far to say I really think that. like the benefits of just the circadian alignment piece of just literally restricting your eating window to 10 hours and really making sure that you're stopping your last bite a couple hours before you sleep, viewing morning sunlight, viewing the sunset, like just those two things like can get you really far. And they're both free.

It puts a lot of stress on our system. Like digestion is effortful. That's why your sleep is so messed up because your body's having to prioritize digestion. So all the restoration and repair that should be happening like has to basically take a backseat while we digest.

You're not changing the quality and content of your food. Obviously, that really matters. But for people who can't afford it, everyone can pretty much get outside within 20 minutes of waking up. Pretty much everyone can watch the sunset for the most part. And people can narrow their feeding window to 10 hours for the most part.

You do that, you really put yourself on a good path to improve, I think, all sorts of outcomes.

I think there isn't a lot of research on

The average American is eating over the course of 15 hours. Like, isn't that just mind-blowing?

No, I know, because we're in a bubble, Gary.

We are in a bubble, okay? We're not representative of America.

It just puts a lot of stress on our system. Like digestion is effortful.

And that's what's happening in sleep. That's why your sleep is so messed up because your body's having to prioritize digestion, divert all the resources to that. So all the restoration and repair that should be happening has to basically take a backseat while we digest.

and that's why i see you know when we're restricting calories like you don't it's not safe for you to have a baby so you don't get your menstrual you don't get your period you're not gonna ovulate right like so all these things like start to shut down because you know it's not a safe environment to have a baby so your body's really smart in that way young ladies eat in a water feeding window yeah yeah no let's not fast until we know more about how to do that properly yeah i mean you've

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