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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
in public, and then they invest in the U.S.
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I mean, throughout the Gulf, whether it's Saudis or Emiratis or Qataris.
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There's no alternative to the United States.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
And I think for a good reason.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
I've argued that actually I'm a techno-optimist that US potential growth by the end of this decade is going to be 4%, not 2%.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
And if you had American exceptionalism, when growth was 2%, and the S&P was returning you 12%, including dividends for 20 years, and now it's like 16%.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
If growth is even only three, let alone three and a half and four, then returns have to be even higher.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
So yeah, in the short term, there is now volatility, but that's short-term volatility.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
If you look in the medium term, we're 3%, 4% growth, and we'll be there because of technology.
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The US is number one, together with China, in all of the industries of the future.
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It's not just AI, there are about 15 other ones.
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then American exceptionalism is not over.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
Actually, it's going to be reinforced over time.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
And there is no other place to invest than the United States because China is risky and uninvestable for lots of good reasons.
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Oh, it already happened in 2025 and it's going to be more of it in 2026.
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You know, on April 2nd, he announced average effective tariffs of 30%.
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as opposed to the pre-April cycle liberation date, 3%.
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Chairman & CEO at Roubini Macro Associates Nouriel Roubini Talks Geopolitics, AI Takeover
But they said right away that market discipline is going to force him to chicken out and back down.
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And two weeks into that announcement, NASDAQ was down 20%, S&P 15, 10-year treasury yield where
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up 80 basis points, high yield spreads up 150.