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Olav Aleksander Bu

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The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Well, Christian, we've had measurements with him actually validated. But on him, we have exceeded in absolute terms 7.7, 7.8 liters per minute in oxygen uptake. At what, 75 kilos? No, so at that time, he was around 80 kilograms. So just, let's say, around 100 milliliter per minute per kilogram in oxygen uptake. So Gustav is a little bit smaller.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Well, Christian, we've had measurements with him actually validated. But on him, we have exceeded in absolute terms 7.7, 7.8 liters per minute in oxygen uptake. At what, 75 kilos? No, so at that time, he was around 80 kilograms. So just, let's say, around 100 milliliter per minute per kilogram in oxygen uptake. So Gustav is a little bit smaller.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

So he has a little bit lower oxygen uptake than what Christian have, but he has the highest he've clocked in around, let's say 94 milliliter per minute per kilogram, something like this at the highest. But I would say that this is not beneficial for what they are doing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

So he has a little bit lower oxygen uptake than what Christian have, but he has the highest he've clocked in around, let's say 94 milliliter per minute per kilogram, something like this at the highest. But I would say that this is not beneficial for what they are doing.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Yeah. So the interesting thing there and the good thing about it is that this was something we reproduced over three months.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Yeah. So the interesting thing there and the good thing about it is that this was something we reproduced over three months.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Well, actually, yes, it was. But this is also where one place where we resonate a lot. View to max is the single best metric we probably have for anything that is related to human health and performance. But it is also where we understand that it's a little bit more nuanced than that. I'm not talking about it as pure as a predictor for your race performance because that's a different domain.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Well, actually, yes, it was. But this is also where one place where we resonate a lot. View to max is the single best metric we probably have for anything that is related to human health and performance. But it is also where we understand that it's a little bit more nuanced than that. I'm not talking about it as pure as a predictor for your race performance because that's a different domain.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

But where you could also say that you could still be healthier with a little bit lower view to max. And now I'm not talking because about that you put yourself through some stress and other things like this. So this becomes negative longer term. View to max is a one-dimensional also unit again. We talk about something on a y-axis. Yes, we normalize it as a milliliter per minute.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

But where you could also say that you could still be healthier with a little bit lower view to max. And now I'm not talking because about that you put yourself through some stress and other things like this. So this becomes negative longer term. View to max is a one-dimensional also unit again. We talk about something on a y-axis. Yes, we normalize it as a milliliter per minute.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

So you could say that it has a second axis to it, an x-axis or time axis to it as well. But we don't say how long.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

So you could say that it has a second axis to it, an x-axis or time axis to it as well. But we don't say how long.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Exactly. And this means also that you can trade off some of your view to max. And I would say that the very, very best predictor is capacity. Like capacity is maybe the single best one for everything. But the problem is that testing for capacity is such a brute force endeavor that it's not practical. It is really not practical.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

Exactly. And this means also that you can trade off some of your view to max. And I would say that the very, very best predictor is capacity. Like capacity is maybe the single best one for everything. But the problem is that testing for capacity is such a brute force endeavor that it's not practical. It is really not practical.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

That's why view to max is, I would say, is the single best predictor of everything measured in a practical way. But for Christian, what was really nice when we did this, this is not only actually where we measured. And I can say that we are at the edge where there are things that we don't understand. There are still things we are researching.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

That's why view to max is, I would say, is the single best predictor of everything measured in a practical way. But for Christian, what was really nice when we did this, this is not only actually where we measured. And I can say that we are at the edge where there are things that we don't understand. There are still things we are researching.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

And like you said, introductory, I'm in the applied world. And in the applied world means basically... much more experimentation and understanding what happens here with some individuals. My sample size doesn't come from the population. It comes from the sheer amount of data that I gather on these APIs. So it's not like a single view to max test.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

And like you said, introductory, I'm in the applied world. And in the applied world means basically... much more experimentation and understanding what happens here with some individuals. My sample size doesn't come from the population. It comes from the sheer amount of data that I gather on these APIs. So it's not like a single view to max test.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

It is so many view to max test that there's probably no other human in history where they have been through these testing protocols over time. where we can correlate it to also a range of other metrics as well, both internally, but also external metrics.

The Peter Attia Drive
#331 ‒ Optimizing endurance performance: metrics, nutrition, lactate, and more insights from elite performers | Olav Aleksander Bu (Pt. 2)

It is so many view to max test that there's probably no other human in history where they have been through these testing protocols over time. where we can correlate it to also a range of other metrics as well, both internally, but also external metrics.