Oliver Darcy

I think she's beholden to almost an algorithm and you have to say outlandish things to get the attention.

I think part of the problem that you talk about is

How does the truth win?

The problem is the truth is less interesting, I think, often than the conspiracy theories, right?

People know that the sky is blue, but if you can try convincing them that it's red, it's like, wait, what is this person saying?

And then you get kind of like sucked into these rabbit holes.

So that's part of the problem is like the algorithms reward people saying things that are

outside the norm.

No one wants to listen to the norm.

And so you get sucked into these rabbit holes as a result, I think.

And then part of it is that these big tech giants, I think, have been cowards.

Like Meta was hosting a, sponsoring a Breitbart event.

A Breitbart event as well, I believe, as Microsoft.

And it's like they want to not be seen as political and they're not willing to take basic stances and say, actually, Breitbart's not a news organization.

They want to be seen as like we support conservative news organizations and liberal news organizations.

And MS Now is the same, you know, different side of the same coin as Fox News.

which is absurd.

And they know it's absurd, but they just play this game so that they can be in the good graces of Republicans.

And anyway, I'm not answering your question about how the truth wins.

I do think part of it, I guess, is going direct to audiences and being straightforward about what's happening in this country and not using soft language, not watering down coverage, and not caring if these bad faith actors accuse you of being liberal.