Olivia Rodrigo

The album isn't very angry at all.

And I think that's the one angry touchstone.

But yeah, I'm really proud of it.

I stand by it.

Is it okay if you're the villain?

Is that okay?

whatever.

I don't know.

No, being serious.

Cause like, I think it's fun to play that character, but I also think that certain songwriters and certain pops, huge pop stars have had anxiety over the years of like, I'm known to be one style of person, but I am a complex person.

I have these different sets of feelings, but sometimes they won't put it in songs, but they're like probably like two moments on this album where I was like, I think she might be okay with being the villain.

And I wonder if you think of it in those terms.

Gosh, it's an interesting question.

I've never really thought about it.

I don't know.

This sounds like a cop-out, but I just know who I am as a person really well.

And I know my intentions and things.

And I know why I write songs.

And I know that I'm...

like a nice person and like i like i'm not suggesting no no no i'm not you know but i i think i think like that that type of criticism only really hurts when there's like something in it that i like think is like a little bit true like if something if someone were to like criticize something that i was already doubting i'd be like oh god like that's the stuff that gets to me but i don't know i also think that pop music in a really beautiful way everyone is