Olivia Rodrigo

This album to me strikes me as a chronological, structured mini narrative about the rise, plateau, high plateau, and then collapse of a relationship.

I'm curious from a writing perspective, are you writing those things in real time as the experiences are happening?

Yeah.

For the most part, it was, it is chronological and in the order in which it happened in my life.

And it's the first time that's like happened.

And I think it's, it was really interesting for me creatively to like structure it that way.

But I've never been a person who's like, I'm going to make a concept record.

It's all going to be this.

And it's going to like be this way and sound this way and look this way.

Like I, I,

write songs to like process my feelings.

So every day when I like come and like, I sit at the piano or I get the guitar, I go into the studio.

It's like, what does, what is like burning in me to say right now?

Um, I think it just like all comes from the heart and I think it's not super like calculated in that way.

And so, um, so they sort of aggregated in a way like you were writing songs and then you took a step back and said, huh, it is kind of like boom, boom, boom.

Yeah, exactly.

But I'm really happy with the way it turned out.

And I think,

Dan and I, like, sort of, like, after writing breakup songs and stuff, we, like, had the fun challenge of going back and, like, actually tweaking some of the love songs that were on the record and making them a little more honest and more sad and creepy.

Like, the song Purple was originally a love song.