Olivia Snow
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And it's quirky. And she's really in on it.
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And she didn't. She calls out at one point, there's a light fixture that she's like, I've actually had different versions of this light fixture in all my homes. And she's like, I love it. It comes with me. I can't get enough of it. It's something where she's taken bits and pieces of things. I mean, she has her timeout chair from when she was little in her living room. So So it truly is collected.
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And I think it's a reminder to like bring things along with you as it goes. Pick up stuff you love along the way and then add it to this really beautiful story you get to tell in your home. Yes.
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And I think she also got started on the home by herself. And it was, again, one of those situations where she was like, I got this far, but I really needed someone to help me round it out, bring it together. And that's where she brought in Pearson Ward. And they did such a beautiful job. I mean, This home is right up my alley. I love it.
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I mean, gorgeous. Yeah.
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Kendall Jenner's L.A. house. Love it. It's so good. I mean, I think of all the Kardashians, hands down my favorite. I think she really, really, really nailed it. First, she found kind of like a small, more charming space, especially scale wise compared. I like intimate spaces. I like divided spaces. I think I'm kind of over the blown out. open floor plan concept.
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I think people are looking for small spaces and like keeping rooms off of a kitchen and kind of that. And she definitely has that vibe. Love the Spanish style. It's so beautiful and it's really calming and neutral, but the details are where she really put her stamp on the house. I mean, there's so many things that are so, so, so signature to her.
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I'm actually really great. And I think any client that...
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I mean, the sectional alone that she had hand painted with like memories from her childhood. It's It's a perfect example of telling your story through your home and making it feel so special to you.
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I'm looking at this right now and I get it. I think fantasies of the prairie. But we're in New York.
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Yeah, it definitely feels youthful. I mean, she has a neon sign, I think, but that there's also so much tradition. Her kitchen is this like almost fun green teal cabinetry. But then she has this pot rack with pendants in the middle that's covered in like antique French...
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copper pots that are hung so she she toes this line of like old and new and punchy and calm and she really it's a very balanced harmonious home super inviting i love it i also think it's like fairly unpretentious for like probably the home she could splash out on oh absolutely and i just i think there's something i don't know i think she is watching oh
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And I think next in line to her would actually be Chris's new home. Like, I think there's more of a through line between those two hopes. But I still would pick Kendall's time and time again.
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That are refreshed every week. The dining table isn't 40 feet long. And the kitchen is, it's like a modest size kitchen. It functions. And it suits her age. I mean, she's living her life.
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Make rooms for your hobbies. Yeah.
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I think the first time we saw Kim's home, it felt really cool. Yeah. I think it feels really cool. But I wonder, I more so wonder, I mean, I have an almost two-year-old daughter. I want to know, like, I know the kids' rooms have toys. And she's always like, there is stuff. There is stuff in my house. But I think it would be so, like, everything's creepy. Yeah. Everything's cream.
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At some point, it's almost like too calm and it's too serene. And like, where's the proof of life? Totally. Is my question. It's like a museum. It is a museum. It feels like a gallery. I want to see proof of life. I'm like, where's the art on the wall? Right. Where's this? Where's the comfy, cozy? And everything's pristine. I mean, there's nothing on her countertops.
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It's almost too simple that it doesn't feel livable. Yes.
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But like the personality is missing years ago. Yeah, I don't think there is as much personality to it. And I think for me, personality is what makes a home special and memorable. And I think, you know, Kim's home is obviously filled with like really nice, special things.
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But I also feel like it's really duplicatable. Like, yeah, I think anyone could recreate that. You could just pick all cream, everything would get a pretty similar result. Yeah. Again, it's like proof of life. Like, show me that you live here. Yeah. Like, where's that? Totally.
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I mean, her real estate portfolio. I mean, we're talking about Montecito, right? We're talking about Montecito. But there's also the Hamptons. I mean, there's not a property I wouldn't take. And I don't know if I would ever leave. Do you know that we were up in the Hamptons? I was with Courtney. Lauren was there.
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But like, I wanted to go there. You're in her ether. You're in her ether. It's so special. Yeah. I love Hampton's house. The Montecito home is, is beyond, it's, I mean, it's a wellness campus. It is. Like the guest house alone is, It's so gorgeous. I mean, the spa in the basement. The templistic? Is that a word? I don't know. Templistic.
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Templistic is definitely a word that I think we all understand. Yes, we do. It's truly so special. I think Gwyneth...
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does such a good job of neutral and easy but mixing in really contemporary finishes like it does it does feel both traditional and modern and like this really great mix and her color palette feels so true to her yes i mean there's not a room in her home where you can't imagine her living and like also something about her room is almost every room has a specific operation to it right like the home is truly designed to serve every facet of her life
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the way her kitchen is I mean she kept her you know dining table in her kitchen close and close by it's a pretty modest kitchen but it's so special and you know the plates she picked up overseas and just like little things like that yeah and then of course the spa in the basement it tells the full story it paints the picture and so I mean on brand to say the least
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And if you've ever been even to her Goop stores, I feel like she carries a lot of the same finishes and colors that she lives with every day into that. So it's a really good execution. Her boyfriend breakfast happened in that kitchen. I know. It's so fun to see all the little sneak peeks. And then, of course, the spa. I mean, down in the basement, the craftsman tile. It's so gorgeous and serene.
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It's really pretty.
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Yeah. A humble about. I think also what you might be touching on is she picks really special finishes, but unlike a Gigi Hadid or some of these others where they have like these really obvious wow moments, hers are a little bit more soft and subtle and a little bit more neutral. I think it's not all marble. It doesn't feel overdone. It's a little bit understated. Yeah.
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And I think that plays well with having all of these amazingly nice features that not everyone's ever going to have. But I think... The relaxed feeling that it conveys, even though it's kind of over the top at the same time, she balanced it really well. Yes. And her designer, Bridget Roman acted, I mean, phenomenal job. Her work's amazing too. Yeah.
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So I think also like the pairings of like their celebrities and their designers is also very interesting. Really? Like who they work with. Yeah. I don't know anything about the designer. It's a fun thing to tap into and then to see and also see if they went to the designer for the designer's look or if the designer really distilled their look.
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Because I think there's a lot of like rinse and repeat with some designers, right? Like you can find a designer to seek out their look or you can find the designer that's going to help you convey the home inside of you, I guess, if that makes sense. Which is kind of an interesting, like, the way that they all pair up.
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I mean, Emma Chamberlain, even with her designer in the article, it says, like, you know, there was a huge, like, generational difference. Like, Emma was referencing things that the designer was like, I don't understand that, but let's figure this out. And I think a lot of the times they'll continue to work together over and over again, which is fun, too. So, yeah.
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Yeah, I think. designers oftentimes serve as more of like the true north guide. Like I think so much of the time people will set out on a project. And I actually think like the issue people run into is they ask for so many opinions. You're asking a friend, what do you think about this? You're asking your neighbor, your friend's talking you out of marble. Like there's so much going on.
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And I feel like more often than not as a designer, I'm actually telling my clients,
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no remember the vision like remember what you wanted i'm actually helping them just like stay on track more so and then giving them the vote of confidence of them knowing that this really is going to work out it's all going to come together rather than you know pushing them in a direction they don't want to go it's more about like really keeping them as close to possible yeah of what they actually want yeah as opposed to like letting them listen to every single opinion
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Well, I think that's such a good way to look at it.
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Let's put the blinders on. Let's like do what you want to do. Let's stay focused. Let's keep on it because it does get hard. And when you're in the design process, you are looking at design. You're paying more attention than you ever have before. And it's making you question things because you're like, well, I like that. Should I be doing that? I like this. Should I be doing that?
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I think it's the same thing with fashion. Like the more you start paying attention to it, the more you kind of can have an identity crisis. I think as a designer, it really is my job to distill who they are and execute that vision. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, I think you reached out to me like what the end of October and we had you moved in like mid-December. Yeah, so fast. And obviously, you know, I feel like I have to speak on behalf of the entire design community when I say like fast turnarounds aren't always realistic. But I think you knew yourself and you knew what you needed.
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OK, also, Olivia, tell us a little bit more about Mother's Daughter Design and like the story behind it. So I've been in business for a couple of years now. I went off on my own when I had my daughter. But the kind of origin of my business is actually I was raised by a mom who was an interior designer and my grandmother was actually also an interior designer. So it was something I grew up around.
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And if you would have asked me as a kid if I wanted to do it and I was asked. All the time. Absolutely not. Really? I had zero interest in it. I think I was just hell bent on paving my own way. And I kind of resisted any possibility. I loved my mother, but I was also like, I'm my own person. I want to do my own thing. But I grew up around it.
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And I mean, I grew up going to showrooms and palling around and I was on construction sites I probably shouldn't have been on. And it was it was something in my DNA and a really, really creative family. And I grew up in really special homes, right? Like I grew up with women who were so different from each other, but their homes reflected them.
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I mean, when I think about my mother and my grandmother in their homes and in their spaces, I think that was the greatest education for me of all. As I saw people that... were not focused on trend and really designed true to themselves. And I mean, I saw the client relationships and all of that. I saw a lot of hard parts of the business, but it really felt like a masterclass in it.
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And then, you know, graduated high school and kind of wasn't sure what I wanted to do. And then in my early 20s, I just kind of couldn't help it. Like, honestly, I tried to avoid it. I kept finding myself in visual roles and all roads just kind of led back to it. And I was like, OK, I guess I'll go to school, get like some technical skills, got the technical skills, dropped out and
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started working and got an amazing job with the design firm. And actually Courtney was one of my very first clients there, which was kind of, kind of amazing. And I even felt like designing with Courtney for that first little bit. And the other clients that I had was such, such a great education and all of that. Um, and it was interesting.
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So as I was entering my career, it was also kind of like a volatile time in my life at the time, both my grandmother and my mother were my grandmother passed away and my mom was sick with cancer. So I was starting my career and losing the two most influential people in my life at the same time. At the time, I had no intention of ever going off on my own. I was so green. I was so fresh.
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And I was just starting my career. But as I kind of progressed, it just became more and more obvious to me that at some point someday I wanted to do it the way they did. I mean, they didn't work together. They had their own businesses. And that's something as a mother that I wanted for myself. And as I was thinking of a business name,
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I think so much of the time, and it's great to designers name their businesses after themselves. And I think that's the story. But my story feels so rooted in that little bit of family history and kind of the way that I was raised. And yeah, I mean, my grandmother truly was always my hero. I mean, she was running her own business in the 1960s before you could even get a business loan as a woman.
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And I think when you reach out to a designer and you're clear with expectations, like I was able to pull stuff that we could get in time and things happen and make all that work. But it was such a fun and quick and I love the quick projects. I think they're so great. And the turnaround's fun. Three years long. Oh, my gosh. Like a six week one is so great.
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Wow. And really, really such a success. I mean, you know, through the 60s, through the 80s, she was running one of the largest interior design businesses in the West. Wow. Her career was pretty, pretty special. And I mean, by the time I came around, she was retired. But... she was such a storyteller and she just would, you know, fill me in.
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And yeah, it was, it was really, really formative and special, special childhood. And I feel like there's so much that they taught me that has just been distilled into me. And I think the most important thing is they had their own style, but they were so good at, at translating individual style.
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I mean, they would look at me and my siblings and they would call out, you know, things that spoke to my brother, things that spoke to me. And I think it gave me this really well-rounded perspective of design to where I could appreciate a lot of different styles. And I understood the way that it was and I saw beauty in it. And I, I mean, everything they did was kind of, kind of amazing.
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The way they wanted their home to feel, the way they welcomed guests, like the music, the candles, the pillows. And it just felt like them. It smells like I think it's such a immersive experience and it's done well. And I feel so lucky that that's the way I was raised and it makes sense.
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Yeah, I think it honestly comes from an awareness of what your point of view is in the world and the way you want to make people feel. But yeah, I mean, candles lit, food, music, the way that pillows are. And again, it's this really personal storied home. And I think it's almost like a rare quality, right? Like to walk into a home and it feels like an immersive experience.
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But I think it comes from just... having that strong point of view and sharing it. And I think that when there's stuff to look out and there's photos out and there's memories and it's, it tells your story. I mean, I think the true mark of a beautiful home is if someone were walking and you weren't there, what could they take away?
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And I always want people like a stranger to walk into your home and have a good sense of who you are. I think that's the ticket. Yeah. Like they don't know you, but they could walk around your home and your home kind of tells the story. Yeah. I love that.
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But it was get that immediate gratification.
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Oh my gosh. I think this is the hardest thing when you're starting out on a home and I mean, maybe you just bought it and you're going to be there for a while, but you want to get in there and you know, you need to make changes right away and you might be limited with your budget. I think there's a lot of smart things that you could do.
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If you need to do renovations, I'm always going to say, do the renovations before you worry about buying a new couch. Just like Get in there, get the bones, get the stuff that's going to be a pain to deal with later on. I think so many people get excited by couches and beds, which trust me, like I get excited by new furniture.
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But I really think getting in there first and, you know, even if it's a fresh coat of paint or redoing a bathroom, I think prioritize that stuff first. And then within that, when you're making decisions, there's clever ways that you can save money and be responsible.
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I'm a sucker for a beautiful tile, but I'm smart enough to know that when I'm picking tile, if I need to save money or I need to be a little bit more aware of budget, picking a tile that has a corresponding trim piece is actually going to save you money. Can you explain a little bit more about that? What does that mean? I mean, this is where like construction kind of comes into it.
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But I mean, that saves you on labor costs because the way that they have to cut and miter and things, it just takes up more time. Yeah. So if you're mindful with some of those types of selections, it can make a huge difference. I mean, inset versus overlay cabinetry is like a 20% savings. And then within, you know, so insets more expensive. Yeah. Overlay is going to be a little bit less expensive.
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But there's ways you can make overlay cabinetry by like tightening seams. There's little tricks that actually can save you a lot of money. There's great things that are super affordable. Light fixtures, nothing has to be expensive. Yeah. And I think everyone really should try to be as open minded towards secondhand items as possible. Mm hmm.
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There's so many amazing light fixtures that you can get secondhand furniture. People buy tile and things on Facebook marketplace. People will have extras. So I think if you're a little bit scrappy and then if you take the time to even ask your subcontractors, tell me how I can make your labor less. Interesting. And then go from there. That's a really great place to start. Yeah.
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Because then hopefully you aren't falling in love with something that you're going to, you know, I always say sometimes you have to like kill your darlings. You don't want to kill too many darlings. Yeah. Right.
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I think one, anytime you're making any sort of a decision from a place of fear when it comes to design is a bad headspace to be in. I think so many people are so worried about what they're going to think of something in 25 years that they end up with the most neutral place that just lacks character and lacks a little bit of charm. So I think first off, pay attention to what you've always loved.
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I think you, everyone starts out with kind of like a mood board, right? Like we're going to put that together and, you know, collect your images, but then really study your images and figure out what it is in those images that you love. And then think about for how long you've loved it. Think about what feels really true to you.
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I think anything that you have a visceral reaction to and you love is something you are going to love in 25 years. And I also think in 25 years, things wear out. Like there are inevitable things that are going to need to be replaced. You're going to want to refresh your home, but do it for the you now that's going to love it and build it as you go. And then cross that bridge when you get there.
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I'm not saying, you know, everyone redo your home in 25 years, but I think you'll be surprised with your home in 25 years. If you really picked things that you love, I think that they'll grow with you. But of course, in 25 years, you know, there might be a paint color. You're like, I think I'm ready to change.
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to change that for sure so it just it can go so many ways maybe maybe maybe more what I'm speaking to is like the like this might all look dated like the all-white kitchen look like is that all gonna look dated in seven years you know like what what are we on the cusp of I think design is really interesting right now I think we're seeing a lot of minimalist spaces a lot of maximalist spaces and I think like the never-ending question is what's never going to go out of trend and for me the answer is always look at Europe look at you know yeah and these really historical homes and silhouettes that are never going to go out of style yeah
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I mean, that stuff truly stands the test of time. I think, honestly, a white kitchen is never going to go out of style. There's always going to be a version of a white kitchen that people love. I think, again, you know, pay attention to what stands the test of time, but also what feels true to you.
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Oh, absolutely. And it's the same thing that goes for your personal style is really like hone in on who you are and it is going to stand the test of time. Yeah. Be true to yourself. Be true to the character of the home. I think the only thing that really makes me sad and that I do think people will regret is like just whitewashing homes and going in and just ripping out character.
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I think really be mindful as you're making some of those decisions and protect some of that like
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uniqueness and integrity that's in every space because every space has it yeah especially if you're renovating an old home or you know you're building new think about the little details that are gonna add that like special character and charm yeah people are very nervous about wallpaper wallpaper is all over these questions
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Most rooms in my childhood home were wallpaper, and I love it. There are a lot of people like me that grew up with wallpaper that are repelled by it. I think you know right off the bat which camp you fall into. I think there's people that love it, and there's people that really dislike it. I think it actually is a more polarizing thing.
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And then there's people that might be a little curious about it. And to them, I say, like, yes, put it in a powder bathroom, a place you weren't in every day. I think wallpaper is super fun. I think it's intimidating, right, because you have to install it. It is more of a commitment than paint. But I think that it's exciting.
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I think it is such a great way to add personality, to infuse a little bit of charm and character. I mean, I love it in kids' rooms. I love it in bedrooms. I love it in kitchen. I love it on a ceiling. Like, really just about anywhere.
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Yes. Like, it's like she went for it and it's a commitment. And I mean, I really, I really love it. I think that it adds, it adds so much. Yeah. Okay. Next question.
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Thank you. That's OK. I mean, I love figuring out my clients style. I don't think any of the homes I design reflect me and I don't think they should reflect me. I think when you look at Lauren's face, it feels like Lauren. When you look at Courtney's face, it really does feel like Courtney. Yes. So great. Yes. And then beyond that, my other projects as well.
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I think this is a conversation of priority, right? Like when we were working on your space, it was very obvious from the jump that the sectional was something that we were going to spend on because that was your priority. You wanted it to be extremely comfortable. Yes. And it almost took precedent over... Everything else.
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So I think priority is a huge part of that. I think if you're someone that wants a really great, comfortable, I mean, upholstery is kind of a great place to do it. If you want something new, you want something that's going to sit well, that's a great place to splurge. But just about across the board, like I really think you can find versions of things that suit your budget.
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I mean, even down to cabinet hardware, a cabinet knob can cost $150 or it can cost $10. Right. And oftentimes there's really not that much of a difference if you're doing the right finish. Right. Again, furniture. I mean, I love finding things vintage. I love secondhand. Again, I think sometimes when everything is new in a home, it can feel a little bit one note.
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So I think find places where you can spend and save, but really think about what your priorities are and what's going to be the most important thing to you, whether it's You know, we sit at our dining table for hours and hours and I need these chairs to be the most comfortable thing.
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OK, so maybe we're finding the new chair and we're going and we're sitting and we're figuring out what's best for you. But I think it is it's just a conversation of priority and there's always a high and low version of just about everything. Yeah. Yeah. What about rugs? Oh, my gosh. Rugs. Rugs are such a great question. And rugs can be extremely expensive and they can be extremely cheap.
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So I think a couple of things that I would watch for with rugs is what the contents are first. And I think anything hand knotted is going to be exponentially better quality than something that is like screen printed. A lot of rugs are like printed and then they have just like a little bit of a... I don't even know what it is.
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But I think anything hand knotted is automatically going to elevate the space. And oftentimes hand knotted rugs aren't super expensive. Love anything wool. Etsy is an amazing resource for vintage rugs. And the price point is actually really, really reasonable. I think it's a great place for people to take a look and kind of see what's out there. Okay.
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I think they're just it's such a wide variety of work and every client presents different challenges and taste. Yeah, it's so much fun. Yeah. I love it.
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Yeah. It's so much fun. And again, the hunt is part of it. The hunt's part of it. Obviously, it is time consuming. I mean, not everyone has the time to go and search for everything. So I'll be real. Like, there are plenty of times where it is just so much easier to just buy the new thing. But I think if you're up to kind of play, it is a game. Like, if you want to play the game, go for it.
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You will find amazing things. And your home is going to look actually richer in the end with these, like, cheaper secondhand things. Yes.
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Yeah, and I think most people that are listing on things on Facebook Marketplace are, like, ready to investigate. Yes, totally. They want it off their hands. They're ready to let it go. And speaking to you, Lauren, I mean, we didn't do any vintage in your home, but I think the thing that we were really mindful of is the mix, the mix of textures and materiality.
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So if you are someone who isn't up for the vintage, I think it's just paying attention and adding interest, making sure that, you know, we have different wood finishes and different textures and different fabrics and things like that because that tells a great story, too.
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And that might be one of the tricks that I think a designer is able to do, right? Like we're moving people in on one day. And oftentimes like we did buy it all within the last six months and we are putting it all in the house on the same day. And it technically is all new, even if it's not new, it's new to them.
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And that is something that I think designers are really good at is making it feel like a really storied piece where we didn't just Get online one day and get everything. Totally. Right.
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Oh my gosh, for sure. I think being a renter is a really great time to like be experimental and like try different things. But also I think sometimes when you're a little bit limited is when you get the most creative. I think you're able to like really think of your space, make it work. I mean, you said you're in a pretty small space. Very small space. I'm not in my forever home either, right?
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And it's something where I might not want to invest a ton of energy into it, but I want to make it feel like myself. I tell renters, I think there's like this paralysis that oftentimes people have if they're renting or they're not in like their version of forever home where they're like, I'll just wait. I'll just wait. And I really don't believe in that.
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I don't want people to save anything for best or like for the future. Start collecting the things that you love now and live with it and use it. I think so many people like buy China and then they only save it for the holidays. I'd like eat off of your
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china right have so much fun with it i mean buy the pillow that excites you buy the thing i mean and oftentimes i mean maybe larger pieces don't always work where you go but like if you found nightstands that you fell in love with those can come with you table can come with you buy the pieces that excite you and you'll actually be better for it when you get to that forever place right because you're already going to have this like great collection to build and you'll have already been yeah like building your taste and experimenting
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Yeah, I mean, I think that is definitely probably one of the most challenging things to tackle. And you do want distinguished spaces. Like, I'm sure you guys want a kitchen to feel like a kitchen. And if you have a little dining space, making that feel like its own thing. I think it's really finding the pieces that are going to double as a couple of different things.
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Like, if you can find a really great storage cabinet that might divide the kitchen from the living room and it's also serving as storage, but it gives that little break and separation. Yeah. Stuff like that makes a huge difference. But you do have to get creative and get fun. And I don't know. I think it can be great.
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A big, a big one. A big one. Just here you go. I'll just tell you right now how to do it again. I think I kind of like talked a little bit about this, but this comes back to the mood board thing of it all. I think we get on Pinterest, we can get on Instagram and I think it can be really overwhelming and it all kind of starts to look the same.
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So I think what I tell everyone to do is start collecting images. And I think people get nervous about the images they collect because they're like, I like this, but I don't like everything in it. And I Actually, I think that's better than if you like everything in an image. I think what you want to do is you want to pull a bunch of stuff that you enjoy and then actually study it.
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I mean, it might be just a chair that's in a photo that you love. So you're going to focus on that chair. It might be a pink color that you love. And then you're going to take all of that and you're going to kind of piece it together and you're going to look at all the things that you love from these different spaces and you're going to start to see what your distinct style is. Mm-hmm.
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And I think a lot of times people feel like they need to categorize their style. They're like, I'm, you know, mid-century modern or I'm modern farmhouse or like these these moody farm girl. Exactly. Very different than modern farmhouse. It's actually a new genre. It's a different genre. Moody city farm girl.
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So I think like you start to like piece together this version and then you get to build off of it. And I don't think you need to put yourself into a camp. I think juxtaposition is always going to make a more interesting space. And I think there will be details and little things that you start to notice that become the through line for you.
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It was actually really funny. So, yeah, initially I felt like I grasped it very quickly. I mean, the designer that you referenced designed Hailey Bieber's office, right? Like, yeah, very neutral California.
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Maybe you're seeing a lot of blues or pinks or maybe you're like all the lights that I love are brass. OK, I like brass. So that's kind of the way that I recommend starting.
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Yes. Yeah. Any lighting that feels clinical really, really.
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What's the lighting shade everyone needs to buy? So I think. And this is something that like took me a long time to really nail down because there's watts and lumens and kelvins and all of this. Really the thing to pay attention to is kelvins. Okay. Like that is the thing to look at. Like 60 watts versus 40 watts is not going to make the ultimate difference.
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Kelvins is what matter and it's like a scale. So it starts at 2700 being the warmest all the way up to like I think 5000 being like you are in an insane asylum. Like you are like, you're not OK. I really love like twenty seven hundred and three thousand. And I would pick I mean, buy all your light bulbs the same note if you can. Yeah. And that's going to give you like warm, low lighting.
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And it actually really suits you. And so we kind of went down that journey. But yeah, you were like, wait, maybe show me this with a little bit more color and a little bit of this. And it was like the redirect back to who you really were was like perfect. And I think it's also fun because you had never worked with a designer. Right. You'd never really spent time curating a space.
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But anyway, it's just it's it's very interesting. I mean, they make all the light bulbs now where you can like pick any color that comes out of them. And it's not it's not really something that I like your vibe.
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I think actually those are the conversations you guys, when I am meeting with couples, the husbands, there are like three things we always talk about and they are always wanting like smart light bulbs. Yes. Like the TV matters the most, things like that. And typically I'm just, you know, if they want the smart light bulbs, I let them do it, but they're not for me. So.
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Oh, that is so interesting. I mean, obviously a bedroom, there's really easy low lift stuff. I think I am so energized if I get a new pillow on my bed or like I swap out my duvet or my bedding or even lamps in a bedroom are going to make a huge difference. So it's really those top layers that are super easy. And then kitchens, swapping out hardware can make the biggest difference in the world.
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And it's this really low lift thing that you can do. I mean, most, if you guys are moving into like a builder home that is, you know, not even semi-custom, right? Like just going up. Most people go in and they're like, okay, how do I put my stamp on this? It's brand new, but I want to make it my own.
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I mean, swapping out the hardware makes a huge difference because typically in those homes, you're seeing brushed nickel finishes. Yeah. Kind of like the entry level. Finish. It's inexpensive. Just about every man grabs it from Home Depot and puts it on the cabinets. But I think like switching to like those warmer polished nickel tones or brass tones can add a little bit of warmth. Yeah.
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Personality stuff like that. And I mean, lighting pendants in a kitchen. Yeah. Just walk out. They make a huge difference.
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Literally like the lighting alone.
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So not only were we designing this space, but you were also really figuring out and honing in what your style is, which oftentimes is close to the way you dress every day. But it isn't an obvious translation. Yeah. You do kind of have to go through a little bit of a discovery process to figure it out.
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I also think when you add those special little details, those things that might feel a little cookie cutter become background noise. They're honest. They become the last thing you're looking at because you're noticing like a sweet knob or a timing detail or a special light. And once you put it in your personal possessions, truly like it is just like the canvas underneath what makes it special.
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And I don't know if cute is a compliment to everyone. It is. It is my word of choice. I love it. And the tinier the detail, the more excited I get. So, yeah.
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This person is me. So my running joke about my husband, I love him so much. He is wonderful. And truly, actually, I don't think he has much of an opinion when it comes to interiors. Actually, I know I just get to kind of drive and he just kind of follows, but... He should be so lucky. If my husband could, he would live in a villain's headquarters.
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Like I'm telling you, he wants concrete floors, black walls. Black walls. We will be driving, you know, down whatever street in Utah and he'll see like a new Starbucks that has gone up. And you know how they build them. They're all like very contemporary and harsh and modern. And he's like, well, that's sick. I love this so much.
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And I just want to live in my version of like the storybook Cotswolds Cottage. It's like layered with florals. There's tassels. And by the time I just think of myself as a grandmother one day in my home and my grandkids come and I'm sitting in my like worn in there with like fabric all around me. And and my sweet husband, he'll be there with me. But we really don't align when it comes to interiors.
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Unfortunately, it sounds like this person has to compromise, whereas I just kind of like am steamrolling a little bit. And he loves it. He loves me for it. I truly think most couples are rarely aligned fully when it comes to interiors. And I think they start out the project pretty nervous about their differences. But when they hire a designer, we're really good at finding middle ground.
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And there's typically a place for all of it. I think we can create a home that feels equal parts contemporary and masculine, but can also feel sweet and charming and feminine. I think we can do that. It's all about the mix. And I think it tells the family story in an even better way. It's really about like sitting down, finding the common ground.
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And oftentimes showing people things that they don't like is more useful information than showing them things that they don't like. So interesting. I believe that. Yeah. I think it kind of goes without saying. Yeah.
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You know, picking a couple pieces that will give him what he wants and striking the balance and having conversations. And, you know, there's always things that are a yes for a wife and a no for a husband or partners or whoever it is. But typically we can almost always land on something that everybody feels really good about. Yeah.
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And then also within your home, depending on the size of your home, you will have spaces that can speak to you. I kind of joke like everyone needs a headquarters in their home. They need the space that feels like them, whether it's, you know, his office or maybe you have a room that's kind of your spot. Yeah. And we lean in in those areas.
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And then in all the common spaces, try to find a lot of middle ground. Yeah.
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Olivia, what do you think is trending now, but people will regret in five years? I mean, it is hard to say because I think trend can be really fun. I think we like to participate in trends.
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I think a conversation to have around trends, and I can't remember who exactly came up with this thing, but think of your home as something like if you were to turn it upside down and everything that can fall would be something, a place to take a risk with a trend. So like hard finishes, if you're kind of like wanting to be trend averse, I would say like
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Anything that is attached to the house structurally, maybe avoid that. But have fun, have play with pillows and different things for trend. Like, buy the trendy chair. Do the trendy thing if you feel like it. And it isn't going to feel like you're in a marriage. So I will say, like, don't be so scared of trends. Don't feel like you need to be completely trend-averse.
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Just be mindful about how you do it and the way that you do it. I think Target is a great place to buy the trendy items. But it's all about the execution. It's all about the details, the quality level. Yeah. It's hard. It's also like, do we really know? Can we really? Is there really a lens that we look through where we know we're going to regret in five years? We don't. Question.
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What are online retailers that are really good quality for the price? Oh, that actually is a really great question. It's interesting. The way that a lot of these vendors work is most online retailers that you guys are probably shopping at are sourcing from like the same brand. Like a lot of these things are going to be available across like 100 websites. So you'll see a lot of them there.
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I think really you can find I find things just about anywhere. Yeah. Like I will order things from, you know, if it's the right fit from like a more high end retailer from a crate and barrel all the way down to like Etsy. So I think it's about searching for like the keyword of what you're looking for and then finding options. I also love like Google Lensing things.
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Like if you see something that you love and it's out of your price point, put it in Google Lens and like see what comes up that's similar. And that could be a great place to source. I think things to pay attention to are some of like the little quality giveaways that are kind of useful. I think like paying attention to cushion content or the dimensions of something.
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It's so hard to just like pigeonhole this because there's so many different types of fills. But things that have like an actual like high quality foam on the inside are going to like sit a little bit better. If a piece of furniture actually has like a true wood frame, that can make a huge difference in the way that the chair sits and things like that. Paying attention to dimensions is smart.
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I mean, kind of know where you land on a couch. If you're someone who's a little bit taller, you might want like a deeper seat. Yeah. I really feel like you can find great things just about anywhere.
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It absolutely is. That's why I'm saying I don't want to point you in one direction or the other. I mean, if you're buying a dining table, is it 100% wood or is it like a rubber wood finish with a veneer? And I think
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a table is somewhere where you might want solid wood you're going to be eating food on it there's going to be drinks and beverage and spills and you might write on it and it the finish has to be able to be up to the task but then there's places where a veneer might serve you really well on a side table that doesn't get a lot of action so it really is just kind of about doing some research reading reviews and kind of playing with all of that yeah i wish i had like a magic place i'm like i
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Everybody, here's the secret.
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And you will make mistakes. Yeah. Like you absolutely will order something that you, you know, might regret. You might return it. And that's okay. It's all part of the process. And it's informing you kind of in the long, long end of how things work.
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Yeah. So that sectional can't. I mean, someone could go in and custom order that through a retailer that has like the dealership to sell that upholstery. But I do think there is a lot of benefit to working with a designer because, I mean, you weren't able to sit in it before we bought it. No. We ordered it. We shipped it to you. But designers, you know, we go to market. We meet with these vendors.
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We understand the quality. And actually where you ordered it from, it was it's handmade in the U.S., completely custom. Like the springs are, you know. hand assembled, there's hand ties on. It's really like another level of quality that designers can really speak to. And we're actually really good because we're around furniture all the time and kind of knowing what's good quality, what isn't.
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Yeah. I think the other thing that really came in handy working with you is the logistics end of everything, right? Like you weren't in town. There wasn't a place where we could receive all this. And designers are also really good at figuring out. I joke all the time. I'm like, I think my job is 98% logistics, like 2% actually like the beautiful things.
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bring any type of idea to life and it's it's just really special so it's a it's a true talent it's fun it's really really what I love to do and I think I have such an appreciation for just about every style and it's about anything I'm like I can see the little bits and pieces of of everyone that I love and it's about making them yeah create the space that feels like them the most like them
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So it's figuring out how we're going to get all of this together, how we're going to get it shipped, where it's going to get delivered to, who's going to get it into your house, how it's going to be assembled, and then making sure that it's going to fit and that it's going to feel great and speak to the quality. And then when things go wrong, because I mean, things go wrong.
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I mean, things are damaged or broken. Like we're really good at navigating that process and getting everything squared away.
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took me a moment and Olivia was like so helpful she was like it's gonna be a little bit of like a shock but you're gonna like love it just like give it a second for sure I think when you have lived in a space and you make changes to a space and something new arrives there is that like moment of this is new it's different I need to adapt to it and those are the moments where like we do sometimes talk people off a little bit of
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You were really on a cliff. You were just kind of like, this is different than what it was for whatever month it was with that temporary sectional. I mean, but now living with the sectional, it's beyond amazing. It's beyond amazing. I mean, seat, like the entertaining possibilities, all of that. Yes. It's beautiful. It's so perfect. Oh, well, thank you.
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Okay. People are not going to love this answer. I think there's a lot of really great, like if whites is probably what they're asking for. I am someone, I don't love to give out paint colors because I really want people to test them. People want to skip that step. They want me to say like, you're going to paint everything Swiss coffee and that's going to be perfect.
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But every home is completely different. I can't tell you the amount of times I put a color up on a wall and it feels really yellow or it feels really white or too white or you really need to test it and try it out.
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I think if you were to just like Google best white paint colors, you're going to get a great place to start and start with that list and test those and then kind of figure out what you need to do. If there's a color that you love, you can turn up and down the volume of the color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My home looks like butter. Like this is not white. So I don't know.
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Not like a fun answer, but the real advice. Yeah. That's what people need.
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Oh my gosh. I mean, I say this completely honestly. I don't think there's a client's home that I've done that I would say I would move in tomorrow. that you would move into tomorrow. Okay. Cause it actually speaks to like my design philosophy. I mean, my home is for me and my client's homes are for them. I love that.
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I think like that speaks to also like you being good at your job and like helping people get what they want. For sure. And I think if you looked at, you know, the work that I've done, every project is extremely different. I mean, I've done homes that are extremely colorful or extremely neutral. I've done like some bachelor pads. And I mean, I mean, I've done funny things.
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Like one time it was really important. This guy was like a single man living on his own and he wanted, A sofa that reclined. Oh, my God. And, like, we found a gorgeous sofa that reclined. And we made it work. And, like, we could do all of that. So, I really... I think it's fun. I love figuring... USB chargers. There was a beautifully... And chargers.
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Specifically placed drink table that, like, did the thing. But we found... I mean, really, like, I love the challenge. I love the excitement of being, like, I'm going to figure out this person's style. And... you know, make it feel like them, make it their own. It's so fun.
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And yeah, I mean, I've had clients bring, you know, really interesting art to me and different things that they want to display. I mean, it's the same thing as Emma Roberts with her doll collection on display. Do I have a doll collection? No. Do I want a doll collection? No, but it adds like so much charm. And I think as a designer, like what a fun challenge. Yeah. Yeah. For people. Yeah.
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What's the process? Yeah. So I'm on Instagram websites coming. So at mother's daughter design, you can find me based in Salt Lake. So we love our local projects, but we actually work. I mean, projects in California, Florida, New York, kind of all over the place, which is so fun. I think we can get a lot done like remotely.
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And I know this was a question some people asked, but I think a lot of people feel like a designer is just out of reach. Like they're like, I can't reach out. There's so many amazing resources like Beyond Me for designers. You can pay for hourly consultations with like the top designers in the world, like through the expert. And if there's a designer you're a fan of, like send them a message.
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They might offer hourly consulting or maybe they do take on a mix of projects. So yeah, Beyond Me, I think design is really like something that everyone can have a touch of and experience and it's worth it.
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Yeah, for sure. Yeah. We offer like everything from like full service turnkey design experience where we're building new homes all the way down to consultation. And I love the mix too, right? Like some projects I'm signing up for three years and some are like a six weeks turnaround. And I like like the mix of pace. I think that it's great.
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And your maiden name is Goodfellow, right? Maiden name Goodfellow. Yes. Married last name is Snow.
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I think there will be a negative. There will definitely be some validation. But who knows? Who knows if I'll have a different. Let's get into it. Let's do it.
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And like there's nothing immature about it, but it is just youthful and it feels like there's an energy to it. Yes. I think the youthfulness is an interesting thing for me to talk about, mainly just because she was 21 at the time she filmed this. Right. And I think more commonly we have bad examples of like young celebrity interiors than we do young celebrity good interiors, if that makes sense.
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So I think for her, I mean, that is kind of her superpower is she actually has like a really strong sense of self and a point of view and an opinion. And I think that always is going to start as the best foundation project. I mean, you look at 21. I mean, most celebrity entrepreneurs. I mean, you guys have mentioned Taylor Swift on the podcast. I think she had a lot of money very young.
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And that's what a home can look like when you have a lot of money. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it's exciting and you can be a little bit misguided. But I think Emma has such a strong point of view.
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I think she wanted to play. I think, I mean, in her AD tour, she really talks about, she's like, I wanted to pull stuff from every era that I love. I wanted this to feel... I mean, it doesn't feel like she moved into that home and everything got delivered on the same day. It feels like she really collected things over time, which is such a special way to live.
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And every room in the home has almost a different vibe, which is so cool. I love the kitchen. I think the kitchen is maybe one of my favorite parts. The kitchen is gorgeous. I mean, the simplicity of the green cabinets with the slab. I mean, the whole home has so much warm. It has these gorgeous amber wood-stained beams. The outside is really craftsman. It's such a mix of styles.
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And then she went through, and she found these really punchy slabs. Actually, the way she talks about the slabs is so fun. And talking about how she's like, I like the ones that feel almost edible. Like, I wanted this. And I think she's someone that, as she was designing, when she had a visceral reaction to something, she's like, it's going in my home. Totally. I love it. I'm going to do it.
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And I don't think she was thinking, am I going to love this when I'm 50? She was like, this is my vibe now. I'm going for it. It was true to herself. And, yeah, she has great taste. Yeah. I think it's really fun and so playful. It's beautiful.
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for everyone listening you can watch this on youtube you can watch it on spotify anywhere you can get video on your podcast you should be able to see on the screen images what we're talking about but i just love like the ear of corn by the pool like they're like the little what are those called side tables yeah so she said she got one as a gift and then she was like i bought three more and then found a pineapple like just little stuff like that just so special i mean she really kind of describes the home as like summer camp for her and her friends
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Yeah. Like she wants to host there. She wants to entertain. She likes that it felt cabiny and in the woods, but it's still in L.A. It suits her. It also just doesn't feel stuffy. She is no one like she is so young. She does have friends over. She's not married. Right. Living life. And it is a great home for entertaining. And it's like it's the perfect backdrop for her every day.
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That's what I was going to say. I think she's achieved that. She got the thought right, right? Like do what you love. Don't worry about other people's opinions. Who cares if it's polarizing? Your home is for you. But I think also she was young when she did it. I think she like went out and she was like, what if we had rainbows and art and like all of these different elements? Yeah.
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And there's so much about her home that actually I think if you picked it up and put it in a different context, I might actually like it. Yeah. Yeah. I think You don't really know what to look at. Yes. Everything is competing with each other. And I mean, that sectional is actually really special. Like the mismatched fabrics and everything.
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If you picked that up and put it in another home, it could be amazing. Well, it's from that really nice designer.
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And if you were to put it in different context, I think it would be great. But when I'm looking at the sectional, I'm also looking at like five funky pieces of art and like what, like a giant pencil. Like I don't even know what else is in there. Yeah. But there's, it's too much to look at and it's too much to compete with.
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And I think when you want to have a really special moment and you want to have art, I think let that exist. Let that be the moment and then let everything around it compliment it without competing with it. Right. Like her home feels like a competition and there's so much color and there's so many ideas. I don't know. It's kind of a lot.
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So it's actually something that I saw in the 90s in my best friend's house. And I hadn't seen it since and I didn't think I was going to see it again. But I saw it there. And, you know, part of me is like, you know, is there was there some nostalgic? Was it she wanting her, you know, whatever? I mean, the pasta in the cupboards is definitely something I wanted to leave behind in the 90s.
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But I think good for her. It kind of bringing it back.
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You have no idea. This is actually a term I use a lot. Oh really? Okay. We grew up with Disney Channel, right? Like that's our generation. Lizzie McGuire's house. Yes. Yes. It's like, but when I was 10, that's what I wanted. I wanted Hannah Montana's room. I
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exactly i mean i remember and it was always like funky and there was like a weird attic vibe and like splashy art like a graphic sign and yeah i mean if the giant pencil pen is not giving disney channel like backdrop i don't know what it might i say it's even a little more nickelodeon than disney channel yes Honestly, true. Is that like a, yeah.
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I mean, she self-describes it as she wanted a storybook dollhouse, right? Like I think this was post-relationship for her. She was moving out with her son. So clearly she leaned into a lot of feminine energy. The designers that she worked with, Pearson Ward, are some of my very favorite designers out there. It's like a friend duo team and they curate some of the most spectacular spaces.
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I mean, one of my favorite things about anything they work on is it doesn't have a timestamp. Yeah, it doesn't feel grand. It feels like this could have happened in the 50s. This could have happened. It really melds and it does all of that. But I think Emma Roberts is a really perfect example of breaking the rules and doing what she wants.
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And I mean, even in her cute tour, there's so many times where she says, you know, a lot of people might get sick of fringe and tassels, but she's like, I love it. Like, I just want more of it. And it works. It's the energy that works for her because it's so, so, so true to her. She wanted certain things. I also love her collection. Everything in her home feels significant and special to her.