Olivia

That was just who he was.

And it created this culture that that's how we behave on those trips.

And to be honest with you, that's not that different from other departments that we associated with at the conferences.

But his always was a little bit more personal.

He was always a little bit closer to us and very much was like hanging out with all the teenagers.

I didn't really notice him treating Miranda differently because when we would travel, me and Miranda would go do things with him on our own pretty frequently.

But then I did start to pick up on it.

She was the only one that I noticed where it felt like sexually inappropriate.

Every year, he would have like one or two new students that he would really connect with that he would create similar relationships to that he had with me.

Not really.

Kato didn't really like the boys in our department, which is kind of a huge red flag.

In fact, he was pretty mean to them.

My husband went to school with us and Kato was terrible to him.

And then there was another friend of ours that he was also really mean to.

His abuse and whenever he was mean to me felt different than whenever he was mean to the boys.

I think his justification was that he was all in it for the cause of feminism and women getting to play men's parts and supporting the gay community and all of these things.

So he very much hid his disdain for like the men in our department.

He would call them back for things and obviously not cast them, but make them work even harder for it.

And they always knew that they weren't going to get it.

There's a lot, honestly.