Olli Schulz

Because for the third time, I think, if we should be there again one day in the next year, then I think we can enjoy it a little more. But I think it's nice that you tell us about your trip.

Yes, I have the first topic directly on the note. And then, well, the second topic, after we briefly talked about New York, I just said it, the Eurovision Song Contest, because a lot has happened there as well. The sad years at the ESC for Germany are now over, because now comes the man who dominates the show business in Germany like no other, Stefan Raab.

managed to convince the NDR, together with RTL, to contest the Eurovision Song Contest. And then I can tell you a little story, because it could actually have been different. Do you know how it could have been?

It could have been that maybe, so hypothetically, it could have been that from the beginning, that you would have thought, we will now let the four major broadcasters of Germany compete against each other at the next Eurovision Song Contest. Publicly, the ARD. Then ProSieben, Joko and Klaas, for the ARD, why not, for example, for the ARD, an open legal hanging sign with their own band.

Who do we take? Maybe Jan Böhmermann and the Rundfunk Tanzorchester, they choose the songs for the ARD. For ProSieben, they chose Joko and Klaas. For VOX, it's the Dein Song Jury. And then RTL is also part of it, maybe DSTS or something else. And then you would have had the Battle of the Sender. And then at some point Stefan Raab came and then everyone else said, come on, let's do it alone.

Imagine, that would have been like that. And now Stefan Raab is still with ARD and they are doing the Eurovision Song Contest together. I'm really happy and I'm excited to see what comes out of it. Are you really happy? I know exactly, German entertainment is always the most beautiful when people remember together how it was 20 years ago.

That's exactly the kind of progression that Germany needs right now, the security of 20 years. Better start nothing new, better remember how it was 20 years ago and so we just do it again. I'm totally excited. I also know that Thomas Gottschalk with his stick walking around and telling how cool it used to be, that's also successful, that's also entertainment.

And I think we don't need anything else right now.

I didn't see it, I didn't see it yet.

But isn't that interesting? You see, we've developed a nice, interesting idea that out of fear of the future or out of uncertainty, we really cling to the few things that we believe are somehow good and that we somehow manage to hold on to them. That we really jump back in terms of entertainment somehow 20 years ago, because everything is so uncertain. This week was definitely really tough.

Stichwort Unterhaltung. Wir haben die Sendung dreimal umgeschmissen, weil so viel passiert ist, dass Trump gewinnt. Erstmal, das letzte Mal haben wir gemeinsam eine Wahl-Cookparty gemacht, eine amerikanische, vor acht Jahren, als Trump gewählt wurde. Und ich hab gedacht, um diesen Fluch von damals zu brechen, machen wir wieder eine Wahl-Cookparty.

Now in the meantime I think that Trump is always elected when we have a party because it was really an absolute disaster event. I had an extra Mexican buffet somehow organized and there were nachos and it was mega delicious.

Everyone was really happy, there were 50 people there and in the course of the evening, of course, we all hung up all the nerds in some forums where you already got the tendency of the evening and so on. We watched CNN from the beginning, got into it again with the El Hotzo documentary, because none of us has an RTL Plus subscription.

And everyone knew that we had produced it and produced it together, but no one could watch it because we all didn't have an RTL Plus subscription. Then we got into it and then we started watching CNN. And then the voice tipped off so slowly in the evening.

And then around two, half past three in the night, because it was all super late, you noticed that the first ones were so huddled around, they would rather go home, because they had the feeling that there would be nothing left. And then I was still with three other colleagues at the end, so at four o'clock at night.

No, unfortunately not. I had planned to sleep in a company again, because I thought, like last time, it was really cool. But when I fell asleep on the sofa, I remembered that it was really shitty last time. And I already fell asleep with the feeling, shit, dude, now they really voted for Trump. And this time I didn't even think, shit, now they really voted for Trump, what's going to happen now?

But shit, they really did it again. And I know exactly what's going to happen now. And it's going to get much worse than before. Because this time Trump was of course prepared. And the people who have shamed themselves around Trump have also really stood up. The next four years will not be exactly like the first four years, but it will be much worse. I think it will be much quieter.

He doesn't have to keep hitting on the shit, but he has 10,000 employees who now ... People who are in the administration, in the American authorities, are replaced.

Exactly, so it won't go to an end, because that's fortunately still on our side. And I found it interesting how then at some point ... I started playing religious categories. The most common, loud-spoken sentence of the evening was just, oh God, oh God, oh God. Oh God, oh God, oh God.

I'm not cynical or anything, no one is really cynical, but you thought, people, to be honest, oh God, oh God, oh God. So that it becomes so clear, I wouldn't have thought.