Oprah Winfrey

You and your administration reformed New Zealand's gun laws in 10 days. And in reading the book, I now I can see that you were fueled by your passion came from being amongst the community and feeling their loss in such a personal and powerful way. How did you make that happen so quickly?

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Because one of the things you talk about here is when you went and visited people in the hospital, nobody had one gunshot. Nobody.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

Well, as we were talking, no one had any expectation that you would end up in your administration during your time there serving as prime minister as the worst mass killing ever in the history of New Zealand. Also, nobody expected the pandemic.

And during the pandemic, some called your COVID policy one of your greatest political legacies, but there were also blistering critics and criticisms for it, and even people marching outside your office and death threats. You talk a lot about it here. We get inside your head. But can you briefly, for our audience, describe... what grappling with that experience was like.

And during the pandemic, some called your COVID policy one of your greatest political legacies, but there were also blistering critics and criticisms for it, and even people marching outside your office and death threats. You talk a lot about it here. We get inside your head. But can you briefly, for our audience, describe... what grappling with that experience was like.

And during the pandemic, some called your COVID policy one of your greatest political legacies, but there were also blistering critics and criticisms for it, and even people marching outside your office and death threats. You talk a lot about it here. We get inside your head. But can you briefly, for our audience, describe... what grappling with that experience was like.

Because in the beginning, we were looking at you all, you only had like six cases in the beginning.

Because in the beginning, we were looking at you all, you only had like six cases in the beginning.

Because in the beginning, we were looking at you all, you only had like six cases in the beginning.

To be completely transparent.

To be completely transparent.

To be completely transparent.

Well, that's just one sentence you're using to describe this, but it was a process. It was a big process. Yes. It moved quickly, but it was a process. How do we stop this? We need to close our borders.

Well, that's just one sentence you're using to describe this, but it was a process. It was a big process. Yes. It moved quickly, but it was a process. How do we stop this? We need to close our borders.

Well, that's just one sentence you're using to describe this, but it was a process. It was a big process. Yes. It moved quickly, but it was a process. How do we stop this? We need to close our borders.

But I think the issue that you described so beautifully here, and you can describe it beautifully because now you've had time to sit with it. Yes. Very well written, I must say, too.