Oprah Winfrey

And he had the saying that I love. We're talking about Ernest Shackleton, the explorer who led expeditions to the Antarctic, who is a hero of yours and of mine too. And you have a mug with one of his quotes. What does it say?

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And so... At another time, you all can read that story. It's a great story.

And so... At another time, you all can read that story. It's a great story.

And so... At another time, you all can read that story. It's a great story.

Well, two years ago, I watched along with millions when you stepped to the podium to announce your resignation.

Well, two years ago, I watched along with millions when you stepped to the podium to announce your resignation.

Well, two years ago, I watched along with millions when you stepped to the podium to announce your resignation.

Whoa, what a shock that was. I was so struck, actually, by a few things you said. The thing that got me the most was when you said, I no longer had enough in the tank to lead.

Whoa, what a shock that was. I was so struck, actually, by a few things you said. The thing that got me the most was when you said, I no longer had enough in the tank to lead.

Whoa, what a shock that was. I was so struck, actually, by a few things you said. The thing that got me the most was when you said, I no longer had enough in the tank to lead.

It's that simple. And that you just knew it was time to step down.

It's that simple. And that you just knew it was time to step down.

It's that simple. And that you just knew it was time to step down.

I understand that feeling because, you know, I had a talk show in the United States for 25 years and it just came to me that I knew it was time to go. But it's so rare to find other people. A talk show is not like running a nation as you were doing. And when did that feeling start to occur to you? Was it that you got worn down by COVID and all the COVID vaccine objectors?

I understand that feeling because, you know, I had a talk show in the United States for 25 years and it just came to me that I knew it was time to go. But it's so rare to find other people. A talk show is not like running a nation as you were doing. And when did that feeling start to occur to you? Was it that you got worn down by COVID and all the COVID vaccine objectors?

I understand that feeling because, you know, I had a talk show in the United States for 25 years and it just came to me that I knew it was time to go. But it's so rare to find other people. A talk show is not like running a nation as you were doing. And when did that feeling start to occur to you? Was it that you got worn down by COVID and all the COVID vaccine objectors?

That was what was so great about it. Yeah, as a trigger. Because it's not like... Like she's stepping down because of COVID or she's stepping down because it's too overwhelming or she's stepping down. There was no moment.