Oprah Winfrey

What struck me about the indie experience of so many different people you describe in your book is how similar they all are. So, you know, I've talked to people who experienced the whole tunnel, people who haven't experienced the tunnel and the tunnel of light. But what are the elements? And it's not just about the white light.

What struck me about the indie experience of so many different people you describe in your book is how similar they all are. So, you know, I've talked to people who experienced the whole tunnel, people who haven't experienced the tunnel and the tunnel of light. But what are the elements? And it's not just about the white light.

Well, we don't have an opposing opinion here today because we're going to hear from people who've had this experience. But I have done shows and had multiple conversations where there are people in your same field and scientists who say that this is some form of a hallucination based on chemicals in the brain that's causing these experiences. And I'm obviously sure you've heard this too.

Well, we don't have an opposing opinion here today because we're going to hear from people who've had this experience. But I have done shows and had multiple conversations where there are people in your same field and scientists who say that this is some form of a hallucination based on chemicals in the brain that's causing these experiences. And I'm obviously sure you've heard this too.

Well, we don't have an opposing opinion here today because we're going to hear from people who've had this experience. But I have done shows and had multiple conversations where there are people in your same field and scientists who say that this is some form of a hallucination based on chemicals in the brain that's causing these experiences. And I'm obviously sure you've heard this too.

You've had to come up against this for many years. And what do you say about that?

You've had to come up against this for many years. And what do you say about that?

You've had to come up against this for many years. And what do you say about that?

Tell us what got you into this because there was a young girl.

Tell us what got you into this because there was a young girl.

Tell us what got you into this because there was a young girl.

Yeah. This is the thing that I remember. She knew that you had a stain on your tie.

Yeah. This is the thing that I remember. She knew that you had a stain on your tie.

Yeah. This is the thing that I remember. She knew that you had a stain on your tie.

So when you first started to talk about this or had the courage to actually mention things that you had experienced with patients and knew were being awakened to NDEs, even when we weren't calling them that, you got a lot of criticism and ostracism.

So when you first started to talk about this or had the courage to actually mention things that you had experienced with patients and knew were being awakened to NDEs, even when we weren't calling them that, you got a lot of criticism and ostracism.

So when you first started to talk about this or had the courage to actually mention things that you had experienced with patients and knew were being awakened to NDEs, even when we weren't calling them that, you got a lot of criticism and ostracism.

That there's something greater than the brain, that the mind might be greater than the brain.

That there's something greater than the brain, that the mind might be greater than the brain.

That there's something greater than the brain, that the mind might be greater than the brain.