Ore Oduba

You create this duality of life in the dark and the projected life in the light.

And of course, the only one that you know is going to be acceptable is the one that you are projecting, the one that is acceptable, the one that your family have known forever, the one that your new friends are engaging with.

the ones that the public are aware of and are happy to accept.

But the one that's been crying and on the floor and has been devastated for decades will never come out and see the light.

And that is so many people.

And in this world, I'm aware that we've not talked about it.

We're talking about porn, we're talking about pornography.

There's a part of me that doesn't want to say the word so much because on social media, they censor this stuff and this message needs to be brought out.

And I've started referring to it as explicit adult imagery material so that it reaches all the ears that it needs to.

I didn't think about that, but that's a really good point.

And then over time, this kind of this dark web, but it's not really dark web because it's all still mainstream.

It exists in this void of communication and understanding.

And so people find it, they migrate towards it, but they can't share it, can't talk about it.

It becomes really isolating.

Kids are engaging with it, sharing it.

And yeah, so the more we talk about it, the more we talk about what?

healthy sexual relationships and relationships with sex look like the more we can discuss how bad sexual relationships look like yeah and i think i think we have to bring that into the sphere so that's that's the discussion it's a long road it's a really long road mate and i'm but i'm i i thank you for taking on this road because it does feel like you picked up a bit of a baton does that feel do you feel like a bit of a do you feel like that you feel like you've kind of picked up the torch for this yeah

before I decided to say something, the reason why it was so scary was because nobody had done it.

Absolutely.

Yeah.