Owen Gregorian

These people that aren't their kids, but they almost treat them like they're their kids, right?

Like they're treating them as if they're trying to be the mama bear and say, I'm going to do something to protect these people because they're oppressed and I need to step in and save them and I need to be the mother figure for that.

it just pushes them down a very negative path to take risks they shouldn't take.

And in this one case to lose their life.

And in that case, I think, you know, that person did have kids, you know, she was in some lesbian relationship, but I don't know what caused that person not to put their kids first, essentially.

But, you know, a lot of them tend to be these women, like you said, who are single men,

Um, maybe single mother is part of it where they don't have a man in their life to help or to help guide them and provide for them and things like that.

But, um, a lot of them are just, they don't have kids.

Right.

And so they're, they're looking for something else to be their purpose in life.

And, you know, it ends up being this political cause.

Yeah.

Well, I don't think it's likely we're going to have women lose the right to vote or the right to work.

But I do understand what you're saying.

I think I often bring up the idea that

that ironically Elizabeth Warren wrote a book about, which is entitled The Two-Income Trap, I think.

And I still can't believe she wrote this book, but she did.

And it talks about how women were essentially tricked into going into the workforce and ended up much less financially secure as a result of it by entering the workforce.

Because if you compare how it was back in, let's say, the 50s,

where most women stayed home and raised their kids primarily and their husbands was the provider and the breadwinner and would be the only income in the family, then that's what determined where they lived, where they could go to school for their kids and how much they could spend on a house, right?