Owen Gregorian

Sergio, go ahead.

Thank you.

Yeah, I mean, if you can focus on getting a certification that's going to get you to the next level or will look good on a resume, you should do that, even if you have to pay for it yourself unless it's super expensive.

But a lot of times employers will pay for it because it looks good for them to to have you with that certification.

And if there's a choice you can make at any time to say, can I volunteer for this extra thing or can I do something on the side or can I work on something in a different way so that it'll develop a new talent for my talent stack?

Those are the things you should try to do.

You know, it's very easy sometimes to get stuck doing the same thing over and over again and where you're not really growing, you're not really developing.

And that's always the time in my career where I felt burned out was that I just, I'm like, well, I've done this type of project six times in a row.

I really don't want to do it a seventh time.

And I would find ways to do different work and get different skills.

And, and that always made me feel much better about my career and it made me more energized.

It made me feel like I was growing and that was a really good feeling.

So even apart from whether or not you want to move to a different company, um, you know, just, just growing is, is something that makes you feel a lot more fulfilled.

And, and I, I know Scott has talked about things are either growing or shrinking.

And, um,

I think anytime you can make sure that you're still growing and you're still developing new skills, new knowledge, getting better at what you're doing or making your company better or making a difference, I think that's what ends up bringing a lot more meaning to your work.

Jay, what do you think?

I am.

I don't know what to say.

I'm really hit by this, like I know all of you are.