Owen Rascovitch

I think he was lectured by Michael Norton.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, anyway, we'll put the book in... We did this Harvard Business School thing.

So we'll put the book in the show notes.

But it's a book about...

Your perceptions towards money and how we feel and interact with money.

And it's not like a book that you go and you're like, oh, I want to learn how to budget.

It's actually a book about how you can have a better relationship with money.

And that sounds pretty geeky, but some of the things that they talk in here are so relevant to everything that you do in life.

like the simple one and this is a piece of advice that I give to people is when they have money don't buy material items buy experiences buy things that you will remember because those are the things you'll get so much more satisfaction from and what this book does is it's a hundred and what it says here before epilogue it's 135 pages but then there's 50 pages of studies to back up all of the references of all the references 50 pages worth of references to the ideas that they put in the book and

So what does that tell you?

That actually tells you that they actually did some research on the things and they come up with some great studies that you could go away and you could just read because they're fascinating.

It's more about psychology.

Anyway, Zen in the martial arts.

This might sound weird.

Yeah, it does.

Yeah, it does.

Yeah, okay.

So this book is by a guy called Joe Himes.

He wrote like 30 books, I don't know.