Owen Raskovich

How do you reckon that would go down with the little ones?

I don't know.

I'm a bit of a fan of having Christmas presents under the tree and I'm wrapping them, but I guess that's just what I'm used to.

I have other friends that don't even celebrate Christmas.

Well, that's it.

I was going to say some families do not celebrate Christmas.

You know, the reason that Santa is red and white is because he looks like a Coke can.

I mean, this is a figment of our corporate imagination.

So, yeah, I hope there's no one under 10 listening to this.

It's kind of where I draw the line.

Yeah.

But yes, okay, so you could avoid giving presents.

You might spend it on experiences.

One thing that we've talked about a lot in the show is spending on experiences.

Hey, you might go for a three-day camping trip.

Anything like that.

And you might, yeah, you might even just do something while you're out camping, you know, a special treat.

These are ways to save lots of money and to also make sure the kids and the family or whoever has a really good time.

We'll get to, we've got an episode coming up on the fire movement.

So we'll get to some of the psychology behind money there.