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Kyle, you mentioned ActBlue.
There's a story about ActBlue's lawyers apparently sounded the alarm on a lot of these foreign contributions, so they clearly knew about these things happening.
And for anyone who might not understand, you know, foreigners aren't allowed to contribute to our political candidates.
And so that's money laundering at a minimum, but it's also breaking all kinds of campaign finance laws and things.
And there's so much data out there.
It's kind of obvious that what's been happening and that it's been happening at a large scale and that they do a lot to hide it.
They break it up into what they call smurfing, where they just take someone's identity and
and they make a contribution in their name and it might be five dollars or twenty dollars or some small thing that they're thinking okay nobody's going to notice that but they'll do it 100 times over the course of a year or two and they'll also do that with thousands of other people and so they take this massive contribution from an illegitimate source some foreign country and they'll say okay we'll you'll take this you know 10 million dollars and we'll break it into little pieces and we'll just pump it all through act blue and now it'll look legit
And the data is all out there.
It's not even that hard to verify.
I did that with my own mother.
I talked about that once before that I looked at the records because they're all public records.
And I saw that she had records of contributing to things all over the country.
We live in Illinois, but there was contributions to Nebraska and Montana and places that I don't think she would ever even know who was running.
And I'm like, I talked to her about it.
And I said, you know, did you did you make all these contributions?
Like, did you make a contribution to this Nebraska campaign?
And she's like, well, I've made like three contributions to Democrats because she is a Democrat.
But but, you know, no, I didn't do that.