Owen

that require those things, right?

Like you have to show that you're able to work.

And I know there's other conditions that like, you can be a permanent resident or you can have a work permit or some other thing, but like you already need that kind of documentation just to function in life.

And, and, you know, I have a whole stack of birth certificates for my kids because every time they would join like baseball, like, like little league, um,

they they would need a birth certificate to show how old they are and and so i i went downtown and i got like 50 copies and now they have birth certificates and anytime they need one they can come to me and i have a file full of them and i got more of my own and i got my merit certificate and i got all that stuff and i i currently do need to renew my passport but i i've had passports multiple times it's not hard to do

And so I don't think there's any argument that it's too hard for people to vote or that it would disenfranchise people because I think these are just basic things that you probably already have.

The vast majority of people already have these documents.

And if you don't, you need them anyway for other reasons.

So you should go get them.

Again, I think this is more about, you know, preventing people from pretending they're somebody else.

Or preventing people from getting registered to vote based on having one of these IDs that doesn't really prove you're a citizen and then getting added to the voter rolls, which apparently has happened a lot of times because we've had enough evidence come out that these things are happening.

And to me, it's not about like, is it happening enough?

Is it happening?

You know, it just shouldn't happen at all.

And, as Scott has often said, it's important for us to be confident that our elections are secure and that it's at least plausible that the person who won actually did get the most votes from the people that should have been able to vote.

And if you don't have that, it just degrades the confidence anybody has in the system.

And we're in such a bad state with that where nobody really trusts that our elections are secure.

Nobody really trusts that we aren't having all these shenanigans happening all over the place.

And mail-in ballots is the worst example of that, where it's like, you know, you never see the person.

You don't know who actually filled out the ballot.