Oz Woloshyn

I mean, I think you were very prescient with, I mean, you came up with a show several months ago.

And I

We're now in this open-claw, malt-book world where all of a sudden everybody is talking about what happens when these agents run wild and what is the quote-unquote zero-failure paradigm.

Good lessons to be learned from the FAA, for example, I'm sure.

You kind of had a little bit of a crystal ball here.

I think it's funny, and you're a unicorn.

You're not a billionaire unicorn, but you're a different type of unicorn, I think, because most people, I think,

with the agentic AI discourse, let's say 12 months ago, fit into two camps.

The 99% camp, which were like, I have no idea what this means.

Let me just tune it out and hope that everything stays the same.

And the 1% camp who were like, ah, maybe this will make me a billionaire.

And you were on the margin of the 99 and the 1 thinking, how can I bring this to life for normal people to actually understand it?

I mean, obviously you built this before OpenClaw, but what was the technical reality of getting Kyle, of course, onto Slack, also being able to make calls, and then most importantly for this story, onto LinkedIn?

Yeah.

And he started posting on LinkedIn.

I mean, how much direction did you...

Well, I mean, that's what I was getting at in the introduction.

I mean, there is something like Ouroboros-like about LinkedIn posts about AI and AI's fabulous propensity to...

generate them.

But I will ask you about that.