Pablo Torre

The guy in the middle, by the way, is billionaire and Bitcoin advocate Michael Saylor, who is an incredibly prominent figure in the world of crypto.

And you'll notice when Scottie Pippen says, oh yeah, I know, I met Satoshi in Seattle in the 90s.

Michael Saylor turns to him and pretty resentfully is just like, who the f**k?

So I need you to know up top here that this is not going to be an episode about unmasking Satoshi Nakamoto, the mysterious founder of Bitcoin and the creator of a multi-trillion dollar cryptocurrency industry.

This episode is actually going to be about unmasking the guy who has now claimed repeatedly to have met Satoshi back in the 1990s, Scottie Piven.

all-time NBA great, arguably the best sidekick in sports history, and the guy who also happens to have done a bunch of TV with one of our guests today, back in the 2010s, on ESPN.

I think the whole situation is, if you look at the games that they've played already, they probably should be better than 500 right now.

But to be clear, Amin El-Hassan is not the only PTFO guest today who has a special connection to the 90s Bulls.

So my family, my mother's family, is from Wilmington, North Carolina.

They grew up with Michael Jordan's family.

They were very, very close.

So much so that one of my uncles is married to one of Michael's aunts.

My Uncle Harley married his Aunt Reba.

And I never knew Michael.

I had cousins who grew up with him.

His father was at my cousin's wedding.

And so that's the Michael part of it.

The Scotty part of it, I did a ceramics class where we had to make masks and they were supposed to be abstract masks.

But when I started working on the mask that I made,

it started to look like Scottie Pippen to me.