Pablo Torre

I got it.

I got it.

I need to draw attention to the work by being out there talking about it with my own voice.

Somebody's going to let that slide.

I don't think I've had a better year professionally in my life or felt dumber at the same time.

No, Dominique, I was just gonna say that when you think about the power and the money behind Michigan, it's just worth pointing out that it is arguably the greatest in sports because one of their biggest boosters is Larry Ellison, who's the founder of Oracle, who's literally currently the richest man in the world, who's bidding for Netflix.

The question of who's involved in the story of Michigan, who's funding it?

I have no idea if Larry Elson knows anything.

All I'm saying is that we are dealing with the extreme and the deepest part of the pool, Dominique, when it comes to where money is coming from.

Oh, 15?

Oh, what a selfish, selfish person.

I'm a Patino guy on that.

I mean, when I was at Sports Illustrated, that was a story I reported.

It's crazy in ways that I think people don't appreciate.

It's crazy in ways that they don't get.

Because that woman, Karen Seifer, of the 15 seconds story, she ended up marrying Rick Patino's right-hand man.

And she was part of the program.

I was down when I visited Karen Cypher's house.

I like in her house.

I went to the courtroom.